Super Puma down central North Sea Feb 2009
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Somebody is asking for a thick ear 
As for armchair experts? Well, I used to be a pert so I could do the job. Maybe the crew need a PR guru (I'm cheaper than Max Clifford).
Well done guys
Cheers
Whirls
As for armchair experts? Well, I used to be a pert so I could do the job. Maybe the crew need a PR guru (I'm cheaper than Max Clifford).
Well done guys
Cheers
Whirls
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TRC
AS332 L2 Civil = AS532 Military
EC225 Civil = EC 725 Military
Cougar = company in Canada using S-92s to fly to the Hibernia Field
Cougar = name given to AS532 (but I don't think its given to the EC725)
AS332 L2 Civil = AS532 Military
EC225 Civil = EC 725 Military
Cougar = company in Canada using S-92s to fly to the Hibernia Field
Cougar = name given to AS532 (but I don't think its given to the EC725)
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Whirls,
As a CPL, you're overqualified.
SAS,
Could Amelia Earhart be found after your first appearance?
To divert briefly to topic for a moment (who'da thought!) - For all souls to have survived shows that whatever went wrong, something went right too.
As a CPL, you're overqualified.
SAS,
Could Amelia Earhart be found after your first appearance?
To divert briefly to topic for a moment (who'da thought!) - For all souls to have survived shows that whatever went wrong, something went right too.
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Originally Posted by HeliComparator
Apparently it was floating upside down for a while (minus tailboom) whilst they spent 5 hours carrying out a risk assessment on recovery (you can't be too careful you know), now its sunk.
Initially kept upright by large flotation bags which inflated on impact, the helicopter overturned yesterday afternoon. Bond suspended the recovery operation last night and lashed the aircraft to a supply vessel, Caledonian Vision, hoping to resume efforts this morning.
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Sorry Malabo , but I am an optimist and I used to work for Bond a long time ago and I know people who work for Bond now which tells me they have very good training. What ever the problem was which had them end in the drink they must have done something right in order to land the helicopter safely in the drink and then get everyone out safely. Though I am sure that the pax will have been a huge help since they are after all well prepared for such an unlucky incident and always mindful of the dangers.
Therefore I stand by my comment. Well Done chaps!
Lets wait for the AAIB to do they stuff.
Therefore I stand by my comment. Well Done chaps!
Lets wait for the AAIB to do they stuff.
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Times reporting that Union says Jigsaw was abandoned
Perhaps to be taken with a pinch of the briney, but
"Ahighly advanced £135 million initiative, known as Jigsaw and drawn up by the oil industry to improve search and rescue, was said by union representatives to have been abandoned as rescuers battled tough conditions. The majority of the stranded workers were rescued by a standard oil support vessel which had been in the area. Three people were airlifted to Aberdeen Royal Infirmary"
Oilmen didn't realise helicopter was in sea - Times Online
"Ahighly advanced £135 million initiative, known as Jigsaw and drawn up by the oil industry to improve search and rescue, was said by union representatives to have been abandoned as rescuers battled tough conditions. The majority of the stranded workers were rescued by a standard oil support vessel which had been in the area. Three people were airlifted to Aberdeen Royal Infirmary"
Oilmen didn't realise helicopter was in sea - Times Online
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I think you lot should stop pestering poor Whirls.
Anyone who knows her realises that you can't look as good as that using makeup alone.
As for the flotation gear.... I think that might be real, too.
Anyone who knows her realises that you can't look as good as that using makeup alone.
As for the flotation gear.... I think that might be real, too.
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Looking through the thread above, the various responses re the successful ditching and the safe rescue of all concerned plus the usual drifting off subject, I would like to add a little myself.
The basic cause of the incidence is by now known, the debriefing of the crew by the AIB inspectors and the company representatives would have established this and they will now be investigating the detail. The recovery of the airframe will follow and the investigation into any technical cause will become public in time.
As with any similar event, speculation within the public sector normally follows quickly, this may be informed but generally is not, therefore care is needed and it is refreshing that in this case no speculation is presently being voiced.
Time moves on and the safety of North Sea operations gets better, the improvement in equipment and legislation over the years since the beginning in the 1970”s shows in the reduction of incidents of this type. However it dose bring home the nature of the job and the continuing risk that is still a feature of those that fly the line.
Outhouse.
The basic cause of the incidence is by now known, the debriefing of the crew by the AIB inspectors and the company representatives would have established this and they will now be investigating the detail. The recovery of the airframe will follow and the investigation into any technical cause will become public in time.
As with any similar event, speculation within the public sector normally follows quickly, this may be informed but generally is not, therefore care is needed and it is refreshing that in this case no speculation is presently being voiced.
Time moves on and the safety of North Sea operations gets better, the improvement in equipment and legislation over the years since the beginning in the 1970”s shows in the reduction of incidents of this type. However it dose bring home the nature of the job and the continuing risk that is still a feature of those that fly the line.
Outhouse.
Last edited by outhouse; 21st Feb 2009 at 04:32.
Outhouse, you are guilty of what you are preaching against.
See, you are already speculating that it was a controlled ditching, when in fact the sparse evidence we have so far is to the contrary.
On your last statement, legislation and technology have certainly had the intent and potential to improve safety, but have pilot training and procedures kept up?
".....no speculation is presently being voiced...... Any event resulting in a controlled ditching into a hostile environment resulting in a 100% success and safe recovery of all passengers and crew shows a high skill level and the crew deserve congratulation."
On your last statement, legislation and technology have certainly had the intent and potential to improve safety, but have pilot training and procedures kept up?
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The total absence of 'didn't he do well' type of press conference so far, either from the company or the passengers, suggests to me that a 'controlled ditching' might not have been the case.
I have no inside knowledge but, hey, this is a professional pilot 'rumour' network after all!
I have no inside knowledge but, hey, this is a professional pilot 'rumour' network after all!
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I must say, I do find it strange that nearly 48 hours after the event, with thankfully all crew and passengers 100% safe and well, there is absolutely no mention or rumour of any cause whatsoever. Somebody must have had a very good idea pretty quickly. There have been lots of plaudits for the crew on this thread, but it would be nice to know what if any mechanical failure they actually had to deal with.
I'm sure they could hazard a fair guess, though
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The EC 735 is called Caracal
As far as I know, even the French Army just calls it the EC725.
And whats worse than that ................
ITV Teletext Service today
PILOT TOLD TO PHONE WIFE FIRST
The pilot of a North Sea Helicopter which crashed in the North Sea 125 Miles off Aberdeen wanted to call his office before his wife after he was rescued.
"XYZ" asked his rescuers for his employers telephone number so he could let them know what had happened.
When asked if he had phoned his wife he said "I haven't actually", and was promptly told to do so.
Talk about kicking a man when he's down !!! At least we know there can't be anything too serious going on in the world !
ITV Teletext Service today
PILOT TOLD TO PHONE WIFE FIRST
The pilot of a North Sea Helicopter which crashed in the North Sea 125 Miles off Aberdeen wanted to call his office before his wife after he was rescued.
"XYZ" asked his rescuers for his employers telephone number so he could let them know what had happened.
When asked if he had phoned his wife he said "I haven't actually", and was promptly told to do so.
Talk about kicking a man when he's down !!! At least we know there can't be anything too serious going on in the world !
First Duty is to your employer in that kind of situation I would think....followed immediately by the call to the Missus....telling her to forget calling the Life Insurance company and boyfriend.
