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Brazil may loosen regs for foreign offshore pilots
Brazilian offshore helicopter services faces pilot shortage
Flight International 25/08/10
Brazil's offshore oil industry is expected over the next five years to draw 60-70 new helicopters into a fleet that now stands at about 120 aircraft, but operators are starting to feel the effects of a severe pilot shortage that is already curtailing services.
The impetus for this coming surge in fleet numbers is the opening of deepwater pre-salt oilfields, believed to contain some of the world's largest reserves. However, the expected oil boom is raising the spectre of a pilot shortage, especially for flyers rated in larger types such as the Sikorsky S-76.
Some operators are already reportedly struggling to hire qualified pilots as demand begins to outstrip supply. Indeed, local sources have indicated that some operators are already rejecting services because of the shortage.
Although high costs of training helicopter pilots play a role, the root cause is primarily regulatory, according to Rodrigo Duarte, director of Brazil's helicopter pilot association ABRAPHE.
Brazil's oil company Petrobrás requires that crews engaged in offshore work have a minimum 500h single- or twin-engined experience as pilots and a twin-engine instrument flight rules rating.
The latter requirement has become a major stumbling block since none of the local helicopter schools possess twin-engined helicopters. While Brazil's ANAC regulatory agency allows single-engine IFR training, it demands that the check-ride be performed on a twin-engined helicopter for aspiring offshore pilots.
"The ANAC's position is unreasonable in view of the current helicopter pilot shortage in Brazil," says Duarte, who adds that most aspiring pilots depend on the goodwill of some operators to log twin-engine IFR time and a subsequent check-ride.
And, there are fears that the offshore helicopter pilot shortage might overflow into other segments of Brazil's civilian rotary-wing market, which has 1,350 helicopters.
One interim solution may be to open the market to overseas crews. At the moment, Brazil's civil aviation regulations allow for contracting foreign instructor pilots for periods of up to six months. Approved changes to standing regulations will allow the hiring of foreign pilots for periods of up to 60 months. Yet these need to be voted into law, and that is unlikely before 2011, in light of this year's presidential elections.
Flight International 25/08/10
Brazil's offshore oil industry is expected over the next five years to draw 60-70 new helicopters into a fleet that now stands at about 120 aircraft, but operators are starting to feel the effects of a severe pilot shortage that is already curtailing services.
The impetus for this coming surge in fleet numbers is the opening of deepwater pre-salt oilfields, believed to contain some of the world's largest reserves. However, the expected oil boom is raising the spectre of a pilot shortage, especially for flyers rated in larger types such as the Sikorsky S-76.
Some operators are already reportedly struggling to hire qualified pilots as demand begins to outstrip supply. Indeed, local sources have indicated that some operators are already rejecting services because of the shortage.
Although high costs of training helicopter pilots play a role, the root cause is primarily regulatory, according to Rodrigo Duarte, director of Brazil's helicopter pilot association ABRAPHE.
Brazil's oil company Petrobrás requires that crews engaged in offshore work have a minimum 500h single- or twin-engined experience as pilots and a twin-engine instrument flight rules rating.
The latter requirement has become a major stumbling block since none of the local helicopter schools possess twin-engined helicopters. While Brazil's ANAC regulatory agency allows single-engine IFR training, it demands that the check-ride be performed on a twin-engined helicopter for aspiring offshore pilots.
"The ANAC's position is unreasonable in view of the current helicopter pilot shortage in Brazil," says Duarte, who adds that most aspiring pilots depend on the goodwill of some operators to log twin-engine IFR time and a subsequent check-ride.
And, there are fears that the offshore helicopter pilot shortage might overflow into other segments of Brazil's civilian rotary-wing market, which has 1,350 helicopters.
One interim solution may be to open the market to overseas crews. At the moment, Brazil's civil aviation regulations allow for contracting foreign instructor pilots for periods of up to six months. Approved changes to standing regulations will allow the hiring of foreign pilots for periods of up to 60 months. Yet these need to be voted into law, and that is unlikely before 2011, in light of this year's presidential elections.
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We have plenty of pilots, I personally know quite a few unemployed, mainly bacause of the low time.
And it's hard to find a IFR rated because of the rules here... check ride and training must be performed in a real IFR ship... unlike in the USA for example. So, basically no one can afford it.
You pretty much have to go in the offshore biz without that hoping the the company will get you IFR certified, and that costs them money, a lot actually, that's where they come up with the "not qualified pilots". The whole system is a mess... believe it or not.
So now they want to hire pilots from overseas where they already have that. Whereas the government should just change that nonsense regulation.
And the agency in charge of the aviation here (ANAC) more like the FAA in the USA, is a mess as well, you can never get a hold of them, and anything you want to do it takes forever. It took me over 4 months to convert my FAA license to the Brazilian one.
And after that i took the ICAO english test and they rated me as level 4!?! I was like are you serious? I speak and write fluently, even better than the person who tested me!!
And it's hard to find a IFR rated because of the rules here... check ride and training must be performed in a real IFR ship... unlike in the USA for example. So, basically no one can afford it.
You pretty much have to go in the offshore biz without that hoping the the company will get you IFR certified, and that costs them money, a lot actually, that's where they come up with the "not qualified pilots". The whole system is a mess... believe it or not.
So now they want to hire pilots from overseas where they already have that. Whereas the government should just change that nonsense regulation.
And the agency in charge of the aviation here (ANAC) more like the FAA in the USA, is a mess as well, you can never get a hold of them, and anything you want to do it takes forever. It took me over 4 months to convert my FAA license to the Brazilian one.
And after that i took the ICAO english test and they rated me as level 4!?! I was like are you serious? I speak and write fluently, even better than the person who tested me!!
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Without MERCOSUR passport or residence via spouse, pretty much forget it unless you got couple thousand hours and specialist skills (long lining, military etc.) for example for Chile. Some folks did mention contracts for old salts over there. Not for gringo newbies. I'd fancy flying rotary in Chile or Argentina, but the market is small and hoops to jump through. Brazil? hmm.
Sure, there is a demand for booming Pre-Sal oil exploration in Brazil, but, do you:
have 600ish rotary hours, fluent Portuguese, Brazilian passport?
As for other countries and stuff, well, you have to sober up a bit in your aspirations.
Also, you're not going to be 'commander' of anything else than training helicopters either as solo pilot or flight instructor after your CPL training. Doing JAA IR(H) may open doors to some co-joe job that'd be great chance (TWIN TIME), but you'd not be commander, so..
You've chosen tough career to get into and stay. But oh boy, isn't it great to buzz around in helicopter?
Sure, there is a demand for booming Pre-Sal oil exploration in Brazil, but, do you:
have 600ish rotary hours, fluent Portuguese, Brazilian passport?
As for other countries and stuff, well, you have to sober up a bit in your aspirations.
Also, you're not going to be 'commander' of anything else than training helicopters either as solo pilot or flight instructor after your CPL training. Doing JAA IR(H) may open doors to some co-joe job that'd be great chance (TWIN TIME), but you'd not be commander, so..
You've chosen tough career to get into and stay. But oh boy, isn't it great to buzz around in helicopter?
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Without MERCOSUR passport or residence via spouse, pretty much forget it unless you got couple thousand hours and specialist skills (long lining, military etc.) for example for Chile. Some folks did mention contracts for old salts over there. Not for gringo newbies. I'd fancy flying rotary in Chile or Argentina, but the market is small and hoops to jump through. Brazil? hmm.
Sure, there is a demand for booming Pre-Sal oil exploration in Brazil, but, do you:
have 600ish rotary hours, fluent Portuguese, Brazilian passport?
As for other countries and stuff, well, you have to sober up a bit in your aspirations.
Also, you're not going to be 'commander' of anything else than training helicopters either as solo pilot or flight instructor after your CPL training. Doing JAA IR(H) may open doors to some co-joe job that'd be great chance (TWIN TIME), but you'd not be commander, so..
You've chosen tough career to get into and stay. But oh boy, isn't it great to buzz around in helicopter?
Sure, there is a demand for booming Pre-Sal oil exploration in Brazil, but, do you:
have 600ish rotary hours, fluent Portuguese, Brazilian passport?
As for other countries and stuff, well, you have to sober up a bit in your aspirations.
Also, you're not going to be 'commander' of anything else than training helicopters either as solo pilot or flight instructor after your CPL training. Doing JAA IR(H) may open doors to some co-joe job that'd be great chance (TWIN TIME), but you'd not be commander, so..
You've chosen tough career to get into and stay. But oh boy, isn't it great to buzz around in helicopter?
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You don't apparently need a Brazilian passport as of about a month or so ago. For the next 5 years, non-nationals are going to be allowed in to fly.
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You don't apparently need a Brazilian passport as of about a month or so ago. For the next 5 years, non-nationals are going to be allowed in to fly.
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It would appear the gringos are about to invade the market in Brazil - or so the offshore pilots fear, and obstacles are being placed in the paths of the big 3/4 players who have tried to cash in on the possible boom there - Bristow / CHC / Era and PHI - who are trying to bring in outsiders to help man aircraft or give training. Sounds like the scare-mongering about Turkish, Greek, eastern European hoards who were going to swamp the European offshore market with trumped up licenses when the JAA was formed ...... and of course it never happened.
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You don't apparently need a Brazilian passport as of about a month or so ago. For the next 5 years, non-nationals are going to be allowed in to fly.
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This regulation / loophole is correct but has not yet been passed. It possibly will be soon.
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Hi all,
I've gone through all the replies... but im still not sure !! If you are Brazilian or Portuguese you have a change on being a commercial pilot in Brazil .. otherwise no go ?? Or you can for a few months !!
Where do we stand !?
I've gone through all the replies... but im still not sure !! If you are Brazilian or Portuguese you have a change on being a commercial pilot in Brazil .. otherwise no go ?? Or you can for a few months !!
Where do we stand !?
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revalidate in brazil
sometime a middle man ask me $$ to introduce my papers(MAKE THINGS EASIER) and arrange a test flight with anac inspector.
they validate only comercial with ifr rating and 200 hours PIC.
to validate my ATP, he told me i need brazilian pasport, but not the 100% of my hours PIC.I never tried to do that.
REGARDS!!!
they validate only comercial with ifr rating and 200 hours PIC.
to validate my ATP, he told me i need brazilian pasport, but not the 100% of my hours PIC.I never tried to do that.
REGARDS!!!
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ANAC paperwork is crazy!!
Het guys,
I am actually in Brazil right now in the process of converting my JAA CPL (H) over to the Brazilian CPL. I've been talking to ANAC since october last year, when I started my process.
In fact this is the second time I am trying to convert my license since they "lost" the reply from DGAC in Spain when I first tried to do it about a year ago.
So, this is reality. It is relly hard work. And I am brazilian born and speak portuguese as a native language, but it looks like we don't understand each other when I try to speak to ANAC, when I can, of course...
Anyway. I let you guys know the exact process and how I did my paperwork when i finish (hoping to do in a couple of months).
Jobwise, I always hear people saying, pilot shortage, lots of job everywhere, as if employers where picking up people on the street and offering to pay then a training course because he really needs a pilot. NOT REALLY!! You have to have minimun hours as everywhere else in the world... helicopters cost as much as everywhere else in the world, so employers won't hand you a S76 with 200 hours... this is the reality!!
I am sorry if this is a little disapointing to some people... if you really want to live in another country, as an adventure, fair enought... but you will need to look for jobs like any other place on earth...
Besides, Brazil is really famous for the beaches and women. This is in Rio de Jameiro. Most helicopter jobs are in Sao Paulo and you will have to share your living with another 18 million people and 18 million cars (no kidding) with all its consequences that we already know
I am not spoiling peoples idea. I am giving the REAL information.
Good luck to all of us....
I am actually in Brazil right now in the process of converting my JAA CPL (H) over to the Brazilian CPL. I've been talking to ANAC since october last year, when I started my process.
In fact this is the second time I am trying to convert my license since they "lost" the reply from DGAC in Spain when I first tried to do it about a year ago.
So, this is reality. It is relly hard work. And I am brazilian born and speak portuguese as a native language, but it looks like we don't understand each other when I try to speak to ANAC, when I can, of course...
Anyway. I let you guys know the exact process and how I did my paperwork when i finish (hoping to do in a couple of months).
Jobwise, I always hear people saying, pilot shortage, lots of job everywhere, as if employers where picking up people on the street and offering to pay then a training course because he really needs a pilot. NOT REALLY!! You have to have minimun hours as everywhere else in the world... helicopters cost as much as everywhere else in the world, so employers won't hand you a S76 with 200 hours... this is the reality!!
I am sorry if this is a little disapointing to some people... if you really want to live in another country, as an adventure, fair enought... but you will need to look for jobs like any other place on earth...
Besides, Brazil is really famous for the beaches and women. This is in Rio de Jameiro. Most helicopter jobs are in Sao Paulo and you will have to share your living with another 18 million people and 18 million cars (no kidding) with all its consequences that we already know
I am not spoiling peoples idea. I am giving the REAL information.
Good luck to all of us....
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Most helicopter jobs are in Sao Paulo and you will have to share your living with another 18 million people and 18 million cars (no kidding) with all its consequences that we already know
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Patatas perhaps you should make sure the Spanish CAA has done its part on the other end, heard that they can be quite slow in the Licensing department, let alone interacting with other CAAs.
Having said that I´ve heard experienced brazilian captains speak very poorly of ANAC, things have apparently become very messy since they became civilian run. Good luck to you anyways and please keep us posted about your adventures in the heart of the Stone Jungle!
Having said that I´ve heard experienced brazilian captains speak very poorly of ANAC, things have apparently become very messy since they became civilian run. Good luck to you anyways and please keep us posted about your adventures in the heart of the Stone Jungle!
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I have heard that FAA and Brasilian regulations are fairly close, but besides Brasil are their any other Central or South American countries that are hiring and allowing ex-pats to fly?