Episode of Lost last night
Episode of Lost last night
So did anyone see it? Ridiculous.
Why do TV programs always get the whole helicopter thing so wrong. So, we had a 212 I think (looked like a Huey) anyway, firstly as it was descending to land on the ship you could hear the engine running down. My thought was you need more power to come to a hover before landing, not less?
Secondly, as the island 'disappeared', they ran out of fuel. The engine ran down and the blades started to slow as they descended. Not much of a pilot as all he did was grab the cyclic with two hands instead of flying the thing to the surface, flaring and pulling pitch.
The show is so ridiculous anyway, made up as it goes along that I can't believe anyone thinks its any good.
Only reason I saw it was because I heard the heli bit and looked up from my laptop. (I was ppruning at the time
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When will someone actually use correct footage/control actions/engine sounds/ correctly?
Rubbish!
Rant over, thanks
Why do TV programs always get the whole helicopter thing so wrong. So, we had a 212 I think (looked like a Huey) anyway, firstly as it was descending to land on the ship you could hear the engine running down. My thought was you need more power to come to a hover before landing, not less?
Secondly, as the island 'disappeared', they ran out of fuel. The engine ran down and the blades started to slow as they descended. Not much of a pilot as all he did was grab the cyclic with two hands instead of flying the thing to the surface, flaring and pulling pitch.
The show is so ridiculous anyway, made up as it goes along that I can't believe anyone thinks its any good.
Only reason I saw it was because I heard the heli bit and looked up from my laptop. (I was ppruning at the time
)When will someone actually use correct footage/control actions/engine sounds/ correctly?
Rubbish!
Rant over, thanks
The chopper was a 204 and i guess they took especially that one cause the N-reg (N842M) was quite suitable for the big mystery thing going on about the "magic numbers" (4 8 15 16 23 42) in this series. I actually love the hole show. Its quite adicting if you start from the beginning, but i can see the point about the unrealistic aviation stuff. Especially the helocrash. The chopper runs out of fuel so the engine stops...ok...but then the pilot starts acting as if he has a hyd. failure as he steers with his two hands on the sticks...he couldnt be bothered about the collectives position and realistically you could here the rotor blades coming allmost to a halt. The is no autorotation or a flare but all come out alive after the helo impacts the sea...all quite stupid, but i still loved watching the hole sequence.
Anyway...if you hate that one...watch the knight rider 2008 pilot. They seem to have had no money for any helicopter scene so they took footage from the a-team or something from the 70s and mixed it up with other stuff.
This is all one sequence...
you see a green a109 flying by, next shot, a 355 cockpit, next shot, a red 350 flying by, next shot a green huey making a steep turn...this was all supposed to be the same helicopter...thats what i call love to detail
Anyway...if you hate that one...watch the knight rider 2008 pilot. They seem to have had no money for any helicopter scene so they took footage from the a-team or something from the 70s and mixed it up with other stuff.
This is all one sequence...
you see a green a109 flying by, next shot, a 355 cockpit, next shot, a red 350 flying by, next shot a green huey making a steep turn...this was all supposed to be the same helicopter...thats what i call love to detail
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I had to laugh at a movie I did a bit in recently in an EC120. The sound effect was of a jetranger, I guess i was just lucky it wasn't the usual bell 47 sound they seem to use....
Would be nice if the sound guys actually took notice when filming took place and actually recorded some of the real deal sound to use instead of the canned stuff!!!
Would be nice if the sound guys actually took notice when filming took place and actually recorded some of the real deal sound to use instead of the canned stuff!!!
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guess i was just lucky it wasn't the usual bell 47 sound they seem to use....
Would be nice if the sound guys actually took notice when filming took place and actually recorded some of the real deal sound to use instead of the canned stuff!!!
Would be nice if the sound guys actually took notice when filming took place and actually recorded some of the real deal sound to use instead of the canned stuff!!!
Talking of aircraft crashes in Lost, the opening episode is a doozy - tail falls off an airliner at umpteen thousand feet, they fall to the ground. Once on the ground one of the engines, off the wing, is still running and sucks some poor bod through it (must have looked good on that actor's CV - 'sucked through engine in opening scenes of Lost.') Impossibly good-looking bloke who happens to be a doctor comes-to with just a scratch on his arm and apparently performs miracles on all the other impossibly good-looking survivors who collectively have a nicely photogenic collection of bumps and bruises (and in the women's cases, not even a smudge in their make-up).
I remember watching the first episode of Lost and thinking just how ridiculous it all was. Towards the end, my wife turned to me and said "all we need now is a bunch of dinosaurs turning up..." and as if by magic there was all sorts of bellowing going on inland, trees being shaken, the works. No idea if they were dinoaurs or what, never watched it again.
I remember watching the first episode of Lost and thinking just how ridiculous it all was. Towards the end, my wife turned to me and said "all we need now is a bunch of dinosaurs turning up..." and as if by magic there was all sorts of bellowing going on inland, trees being shaken, the works. No idea if they were dinoaurs or what, never watched it again.
How the hell can I get out more? No money, everything so expensive, no friends, no life. A toddler wearing me out. Oh woe is me.
Anyone know of a job in say the caribbean or somewhere nice?
Oh well, back to pprune. With the wife watching Lost in the background.
I wasn't watching that garbage, honest! Rather watch paint dry.
Anyone know of a job in say the caribbean or somewhere nice?
Oh well, back to pprune. With the wife watching Lost in the background.
I wasn't watching that garbage, honest! Rather watch paint dry.
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Towards the end, my wife turned to me and said "all we need now is a bunch of dinosaurs turning up..."
Robbo, you weren't that far out, they were polar bears. From that point on the whole plot was daft.
Anyway everyone knows that like cars slowing down, helicopter engines slow down just before landing!
Bloody daft the whole gripping series!!
Robbo, you weren't that far out, they were polar bears. From that point on the whole plot was daft.
Anyway everyone knows that like cars slowing down, helicopter engines slow down just before landing!
Bloody daft the whole gripping series!!
Polar Bears ? POLAR BEARS ?!?!?!?! If they can have Polar Bears roaring and shaking the trees of a tropical island, then anything goes. Even a heli pilot trying to autorotate with both hands on the cyclic and none on the collective.
Now I'm really glad I didn't watch after episode 1.
Now I'm really glad I didn't watch after episode 1.
by the way...the polar bears didnt kill the pilots and the other people...it is way more stupid...the thing shaking the trees and killing people and sounding like a t-rex is black smoke that moves like a huge snake or worm and can even fly. i know how this all sounds, but just to give you some more laughs
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you see a green a109 flying by, next shot, a 355 cockpit, next shot, a red 350 flying by, next shot a green huey making a steep turn...this was all supposed to be the same helicopter...thats what i call love to detail
Or using B47 instead. That'll make it even more believable.
I'd say that most movies have chopper/airplane related stunts bit far-fetched, but then, it looks so cool, innit?
Just like that guy in series/movie that never touched cyclic and collective and after a minute talking to friend over radio on ground (????) he picked up courage and actually touched controls only to land it in kinda airplane fashion with strange controls moves and touch of too high hover to finish it up (sort of, don't remember exactly)We're all used to watching lots of made up effects regarding physics in general and airplanes. So why not helicopters? It's even less likely mass public would notice anything wrong.
Then, most of the airline crash survivor's stories plot wouldn't stand a chance as there'd be no pilot, no hardly scratched people, conveniently located supplies (that didn't smash their heads off during super heavy landing, or folks didn't fly all the fuselage length when forgetting to strap on for this or that reason), unscathed part of fuselage 'torn off' from the rest of airframe. And so on.
You guys remember that movie with Chuck Norris (or whoever) about erupting volcano on an island somewhere tropical. Watched that 5mins when flicking channels. Guy wants to escape on a B206 the main characted just landed, telling people to use cars to evacuate, then there's something scary, they all panick, bad guy jumps into chopper, starts up (so quickly!!), but then, about 6-10 people fight their way onto seats, cling to doors and skids, guy manages to keep it steady when they jump to grab the skid, flies off with extra load only to 'lose control' (looks like hydraulics gone or TR damaged) few hundred metres away with 'overloaded' helicopter or something. Now that's funny.
Keep on watching and having laugh at such suspense/action scenes
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I remember an old movie...70's I think. Called "Deadly encounter" with Larry Hagman. Really good and most chopper clips were the real thing. Best helicopter movie ever. In the opening scene he starts an H500 and it's dead on the way it's done. Even think the sounds were real 
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The sound effect was of a jetranger... would be nice if the sound guys actually took notice when filming took place and actually recorded some of the real deal sound ...
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James Bond and '28 weeks later'
Two brilliant pieces of POF defying use of helicopters! Can't remember which Bond film it was but it had the Squirrel flying on it's nose using the main rotor to chop up the local market stalls in an attempt to kill the hero! Then, every little boy's favorite use of a heli, chopping zombies up with a Gazelle in 28 Weeks Later. Why don't helicopter pilots get Oscars? They deserved them for that flying! 