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Where's this going?!??
Guys,
This thread is fast becoming the usual slanging match with little (if any) factual information coming to light.
I suggest we all just sit tight until Jayrow's EBA actually becomes public as clearly some of the contributions are designed to be controversial if nothing else.
Whilst I find it incredible that an EBA could be struck up that would so disadvantage one group of pilots over another (a 15K pay cut - are you serious?), at the moment it's just one word against another and given all the different agendas etc involved here, this thread is starting to get a little personal and lacking in substance.
Bring on the facts...
P68
This thread is fast becoming the usual slanging match with little (if any) factual information coming to light.
I suggest we all just sit tight until Jayrow's EBA actually becomes public as clearly some of the contributions are designed to be controversial if nothing else.
Whilst I find it incredible that an EBA could be struck up that would so disadvantage one group of pilots over another (a 15K pay cut - are you serious?), at the moment it's just one word against another and given all the different agendas etc involved here, this thread is starting to get a little personal and lacking in substance.
Bring on the facts...
P68
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Still Waiting
Blade Banger
Still waiting for your PM so I can give you the facts if you acutally want them.
As pohm1 states, facts don't necessarily apply on this forum. Your comments are proof of that.
I know the Jayrow Pilot Reps, and they've gone out of their way to ensure this deal wasn't multi-engine centric. Once the details are available this will be proven and what will you have to say then BB?...... "Whoops sorry guys"
Still waiting for your PM so I can give you the facts if you acutally want them.
As pohm1 states, facts don't necessarily apply on this forum. Your comments are proof of that.
I know the Jayrow Pilot Reps, and they've gone out of their way to ensure this deal wasn't multi-engine centric. Once the details are available this will be proven and what will you have to say then BB?...... "Whoops sorry guys"
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Oh you will get used to Mr. Blade Wacker.
He, and at least his two other pseudonym’s, has always been a Jayrow critic[s].
Look back through the threads, he is full of constant criticisms without any hint of fact, then states, it’s a Rumor Network, Right?
His foul mouth and personal attacks made the Moderators abort his previous attacks with a thump, and then he / she did not respond to their invitations to provide the facts, he ran.
Move on.
He, and at least his two other pseudonym’s, has always been a Jayrow critic[s].
Look back through the threads, he is full of constant criticisms without any hint of fact, then states, it’s a Rumor Network, Right?
His foul mouth and personal attacks made the Moderators abort his previous attacks with a thump, and then he / she did not respond to their invitations to provide the facts, he ran.
Move on.
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High Nr
I was wondering when you would come out from under your rock. What are you doing posting on Jayrow threads anyway, they just sacked you?
Jayrowpilot2.
I have a copy of the pilots contract with me now and are now waiting on a copy of the proposed EBA to arrive with the figures. I shall then either post the figures on here or email them to you.
Papa 68.
I would not get into this but I am very concerned that the twin boys at Jayrow have sold out the single engine guys.
Banger
Jayrowpilot2.
I have a copy of the pilots contract with me now and are now waiting on a copy of the proposed EBA to arrive with the figures. I shall then either post the figures on here or email them to you.
Papa 68.
I would not get into this but I am very concerned that the twin boys at Jayrow have sold out the single engine guys.
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xxxchopperpilot
Who said they would vote on a pay decrease you fool.
What an fool you are posting that the pilots will vote on a lower pay deal?
I am waiting on the proposed EBA to get the pay figures to compare to the current figures.
Thats all. Maybe your another twin driver who has sold out the single guys?
We shall wait and see what the figures are.
My mate in the NT says the phones have been ringing off the hook with the guys on twin bases ringing trying to find out who the single driver is who let the cat out of the bag.
Even arsked him what his pay and conditions are and on his contract it states that he is not to disclose it to any other Jayrow employee.
Banger
What an fool you are posting that the pilots will vote on a lower pay deal?
I am waiting on the proposed EBA to get the pay figures to compare to the current figures.
Thats all. Maybe your another twin driver who has sold out the single guys?
We shall wait and see what the figures are.
My mate in the NT says the phones have been ringing off the hook with the guys on twin bases ringing trying to find out who the single driver is who let the cat out of the bag.
Even arsked him what his pay and conditions are and on his contract it states that he is not to disclose it to any other Jayrow employee.
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Bladebanger,
You really have no idea.....
I think you may find that there is a clause within the EBA that stops pay decreases of current employees.. as for pay levels of pilots employed after the EBA comes in, who knows.
Not sure whom at Jayrows you have have it in for, but looking at your previous posts most of which slag Jayrow someone burnt you at sometime.
You really have no idea.....
I think you may find that there is a clause within the EBA that stops pay decreases of current employees.. as for pay levels of pilots employed after the EBA comes in, who knows.
Not sure whom at Jayrows you have have it in for, but looking at your previous posts most of which slag Jayrow someone burnt you at sometime.
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Hey BB,
My sources indicate that the se guys are looking at pay rises closer to 15k rather than a pay drop of 15k, are you sure your mate isn't dyslexic and got it around the wrong way!!!!
Sorry, should stay out of this, couldn help myself!!
My sources indicate that the se guys are looking at pay rises closer to 15k rather than a pay drop of 15k, are you sure your mate isn't dyslexic and got it around the wrong way!!!!
Sorry, should stay out of this, couldn help myself!!
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Igor13,
So you want to play Big Brother rules. So does that mean because your a twin driver and I'm only a single driver that you should get a pay increase and I miss out and only the twin drivers get to vote on it at Jayrow. That sounds like whats going to happen
skiddsoff,
I wish that was the case but it's not. I have seen the guys actual contract and it's good. I am still waiting to recieve the EBA to get his new figures.
Better still all you twin drivers at Jayroiw, instead of calling the single guys up in the NT and calling all your mates to try and make them post on here to try and keep the facts from coming out, why dont you post the Jayrow EBA single engine Captains pay scale from say year 3 to year 9 on here and I will use those figures?
So you want to play Big Brother rules. So does that mean because your a twin driver and I'm only a single driver that you should get a pay increase and I miss out and only the twin drivers get to vote on it at Jayrow. That sounds like whats going to happen
skiddsoff,
I wish that was the case but it's not. I have seen the guys actual contract and it's good. I am still waiting to recieve the EBA to get his new figures.
Better still all you twin drivers at Jayroiw, instead of calling the single guys up in the NT and calling all your mates to try and make them post on here to try and keep the facts from coming out, why dont you post the Jayrow EBA single engine Captains pay scale from say year 3 to year 9 on here and I will use those figures?
Chief Bottle Washer
Gents,
Enough of the personal abuse.
First and last warning
Enough of the personal abuse.
First and last warning
So what is a Jet Ranger pilot getting with Jayrow in the NT?
I've been told about 70K but with alot of time away from home, is this correct?
I know about the confidentiality stuff but this is a rumour network after all
I've been told about 70K but with alot of time away from home, is this correct?
I know about the confidentiality stuff but this is a rumour network after all
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Thanks BB
If nothing else you have managed to keep the thread at the forefront of Rotorheads for the past week. Apart from that I suspect you are a very bored, misinformed, individual, who obviously does very little flying, given the time you have to sit in front of the computer.
At the end of the day your Young, single engine driver "FRIEND" in the NT will recieve a substantial increase in both salary and conditions, and probabley go on to become a twin engine captain.
ENOUGH SAID
At the end of the day your Young, single engine driver "FRIEND" in the NT will recieve a substantial increase in both salary and conditions, and probabley go on to become a twin engine captain.
ENOUGH SAID
Really
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Hello, Hello
Banga,
We've all had the offer now for a few days and you've been pretty quiet.
Has your "friend" told you that he's done alright out of the EBA? That he's done at least as well, if not better, than the multi-engine types in terms of percentage increase?
And the multi-engine guys have pretty much equalled the Bristow deal so all Jayrow pilots should be happy. Min starting salary for a Yr 1 M/E IFR Capt at Jayrow $107200 + a few extras thrown in.
Over to you Banga!!!
We've all had the offer now for a few days and you've been pretty quiet.
Has your "friend" told you that he's done alright out of the EBA? That he's done at least as well, if not better, than the multi-engine types in terms of percentage increase?
And the multi-engine guys have pretty much equalled the Bristow deal so all Jayrow pilots should be happy. Min starting salary for a Yr 1 M/E IFR Capt at Jayrow $107200 + a few extras thrown in.
Over to you Banga!!!
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Jayrowpilot2,
I am sad to say that you are in fact wrong again. His percentage has droped. His original contract was for $85 and now in the year he is in for single driver is $73600.
Not what we wanted to see.
However I am glad to hear that the Jayrow deal is in line with what the Bristow pilots got.
Glad to see that at least. Thats the twin drivers looked after now all you at Jayrow have to do is look after the single engine drivers.
I dont know what to tell you Jayrowpilot2, Facts are that he is getting $85 now but under the EBA (if it gets voted in) he will et $73600. Thats a bit of a drop.
Banger
I am sad to say that you are in fact wrong again. His percentage has droped. His original contract was for $85 and now in the year he is in for single driver is $73600.
Not what we wanted to see.
However I am glad to hear that the Jayrow deal is in line with what the Bristow pilots got.
Glad to see that at least. Thats the twin drivers looked after now all you at Jayrow have to do is look after the single engine drivers.
I dont know what to tell you Jayrowpilot2, Facts are that he is getting $85 now but under the EBA (if it gets voted in) he will et $73600. Thats a bit of a drop.
Banger