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Old 11th Nov 2007, 22:48
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Job vacancy at Lancs Police ASU?

Hi guys/girls, heard a rumour that one of the line pilots at Lancashire ASU has handed his notice in. Might be worth getting the c.v's ready if anyone is interested.

On a similar note - Is there anyone out there (suitably qualified), in the UK that hasn't already got a job ??
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Oh no! That would mean sharing a crew room with you LoL!
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Is this the same rumour that there are also vacancies at West Mids. and Humberside?

I suspect there are a lot of CVs already ready!
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I haven't

I would love to be able to send my CV in, but I only have a FAA ATPL.. .
Maybe one day...
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You can't keep anything secret these days
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I don't think there will be lots of CV's ready, maybe a bit of a struggle to fill or maybe not!
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Old 17th Nov 2007, 07:18
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Depends whether your financial circumstances allow you the choice of working an 'interesting' public service type job for peanuts over the pressing need to squeeze maximium wonga out of your licence on the 'regular' big busses in the dark and wet!
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Old 17th Nov 2007, 08:32
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peanuts?

It's hardly peanuts, or are you hinting that police pilots are all monkeys?

The financial package isn't as bad as it used to be, there is also discussion underway to significantly increase the pay deal for direct employment. In addition to this, the majority of us in this role have a decent(ish) military pension.

Besides, I'm scared of flying in the dark over the sea!!!!
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Compared with North Sea and corporate flying, it IS peanuts. Secondly, YOUR military pension should not be an excuse to offer low wages; not everyone has one of those.

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Old 17th Nov 2007, 09:25
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over the pressing need to squeeze maximium wonga out of your licence on the 'regular' big busses in the dark and wet!
Or the irregular small buses in the dark and wet?
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Old 17th Nov 2007, 09:47
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Whirlygig: not everyone has one of those.
Chris, you state the obvious surely?

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Well said Whirls
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Old 17th Nov 2007, 09:50
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Ace, who's Chris?

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just the driver the majority of us in this role have a decent(ish) military pension.
Hmmm......interesting question springs forth, I wonder what percentage of police pilots are in fact ex military and out of that figure, how many actually do have a pension.

Do ex military crews prefer the role of the police because of similarities to a role performed in NI or is it the clear predictable regularity of shift patterns affording some kind of home life?

I know of one gentleman [term used in the loosest of senses] who moved into the police role specifically for the lifestyle and the pay was for him a secondary issue only.

Personally, I dislike dangling from a specified length of rope and relish my freedom as well as variety so feel unsuited for such a role. I'd be interested to hear opinions.

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Ace, Unit I work for has 10 Pilots ALL ex Mil. Various backgrounds, mostly AAC. Job is very good, also interesting and the amount of time off is ideal with a sensible work pattern, you also know just what you are doing for the next 12 months. It probably won't suit everyone either for financial or personal reasons but, for the majority of the people I know they are fairly content.


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timex: - So many in one unit? I am surprised Is there a geographical reason for that? I can see the attraction in the circumstances you tell off and admit the 'certainty' factor of knowing what you are doing well in advance does have appeal. Must be like a military crew room there

Thanks for the info

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Old 17th Nov 2007, 12:40
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....'peanuts' compared to the other industry sectors as Whirlygig has mentioned

..plus this little gem (about one of the main UK EMS employers) from the BALPA pension advisor that helps illustrate the poor state of the contracted onshore UK parapublic sector.........

‘The current pension scheme has one of the lowest employer contributions for such an arrangement, not only in the aviation world, but one of the lowest amongst all UK pension arrangements. If the employees do not augment the employer’s contributions with reasonable employee contributions, then there will be no meaningful pension at the retirement of the member, no matter what age they join the pension arrangement.’

(For example the '06 forecast for age 60, from the pension provider for my company pension, after 15 years with the company: £2700/year.)

Last edited by Bertie Thruster; 17th Nov 2007 at 18:15. Reason: my forecast pension figure added
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Old 18th Nov 2007, 13:34
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If memory serves this is the second departure from that unit in 6 months; is there something we should know? Directly employed police jobs are after all supposed to be pretty desirable.
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It is the same old story isn't it? Time and time again and the solution is always the same, never changing. If the financial terms of the job are not liveable then leave and find an alternative but it seems that people assume that they have rights beyond reality.

The bottom line is simply, there are specific employment groups and each offers a type of flying, lifestyle and income. What you need to do is ask yourself what is important to you and make your decision. The holy grail is to get the job you really want and to have the remuneration as well but hey, life is just not like that and there is always a compromise.

I have spent over 30 years living my life the way I dictate and for the later half I have managed to achieve a half decent pay packet. Now I resort to determining what I want. Money or lifestyle and so far the two do not meet. Not for me anyway.

I choose lifestyle [actually you should read job characteristics] and though the pay is not bad at all it could be better compared to............what????? But I shall never be wealthy and that was ordained many years ago. I choose the pleasure of doing the job, the lifestyle, the good and the bad and do not whinge about pensions, pay or any other associated bol*****. The most important thing in my life is flight and every thing else is secondary. [I mean everything]

Fighting for something better is the natural way of things, it is human nature but at some point you just know that the reality is very different


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Old 18th Nov 2007, 18:54
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Just Curious

For those of us (expats) who will probably never work back in dear old blighty, but have at least a passing interest in all things heli. over there, what does a position like this pay? What would the take home pay be on, let's say, a 50,000GBP salary?
Just curious.
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