Guimbal Cabri G2


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Would have been similar if you had if you had joined the military but with better benefits.... rather than taking benefits!
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
Or, serve your country, join the military and get paid to learn to fly

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The Cabri has a bit of a design problem at the firewall, abrading electric cables.
About two years ago, I was taking a flight with VVB (Now ICE Heli) and when lifting collective and getting light on the skids prior to hover, the display rebooted and the power dropped as though we'd hit the plasma ignition switch.
A bit of a "Woah, what was that?" moment, and moving over to the grass at Elstree we determined that it wasn't just at a certain collective angle, but when the ship vibrated a bit with the governor revving up for power demand.
We couldn't see what the issue was so shut down and scrubbed the flight.
Maintenance took a long time to find it but eventually found there was wear to cables coming from the cabin.
Then I spotted this in the news the other week:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-51959648
Turns out that a different aircraft burnt down due to the same fault.
https://assets.publishing.service.go...CILR_04-20.pdf
Glad we caught ours before it got a bit serious up in the air.
If you're in one, make sure it's got the upgraded clips.
About two years ago, I was taking a flight with VVB (Now ICE Heli) and when lifting collective and getting light on the skids prior to hover, the display rebooted and the power dropped as though we'd hit the plasma ignition switch.
A bit of a "Woah, what was that?" moment, and moving over to the grass at Elstree we determined that it wasn't just at a certain collective angle, but when the ship vibrated a bit with the governor revving up for power demand.
We couldn't see what the issue was so shut down and scrubbed the flight.
Maintenance took a long time to find it but eventually found there was wear to cables coming from the cabin.
Then I spotted this in the news the other week:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-51959648
Turns out that a different aircraft burnt down due to the same fault.
https://assets.publishing.service.go...CILR_04-20.pdf
Glad we caught ours before it got a bit serious up in the air.
If you're in one, make sure it's got the upgraded clips.

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From: California
How very sad and heroic of you... life in the car must have been tough, having to fight for your parking space, hoping the food you had would be enough for the day, praying you didn’t get shot at in the dark and hoping your government pay check came at the end of the month.
Would have been similar if you had if you had joined the military but with better benefits.... rather than taking benefits!
Would have been similar if you had if you had joined the military but with better benefits.... rather than taking benefits!
Besides, the military wouldn't take me due to my asthma,...even if I had wanted to go that route,...which I did not!

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From: Germany
The Cabri has a bit of a design problem at the firewall, abrading electric cables.
About two years ago, I was taking a flight with VVB (Now ICE Heli) and when lifting collective and getting light on the skids prior to hover, the display rebooted and the power dropped as though we'd hit the plasma ignition switch.
A bit of a "Woah, what was that?" moment, and moving over to the grass at Elstree we determined that it wasn't just at a certain collective angle, but when the ship vibrated a bit with the governor revving up for power demand.
We couldn't see what the issue was so shut down and scrubbed the flight.
Maintenance took a long time to find it but eventually found there was wear to cables coming from the cabin.
Then I spotted this in the news the other week:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-51959648
Turns out that a different aircraft burnt down due to the same fault.
https://assets.publishing.service.go...CILR_04-20.pdf
Glad we caught ours before it got a bit serious up in the air.
If you're in one, make sure it's got the upgraded clips.
About two years ago, I was taking a flight with VVB (Now ICE Heli) and when lifting collective and getting light on the skids prior to hover, the display rebooted and the power dropped as though we'd hit the plasma ignition switch.
A bit of a "Woah, what was that?" moment, and moving over to the grass at Elstree we determined that it wasn't just at a certain collective angle, but when the ship vibrated a bit with the governor revving up for power demand.
We couldn't see what the issue was so shut down and scrubbed the flight.
Maintenance took a long time to find it but eventually found there was wear to cables coming from the cabin.
Then I spotted this in the news the other week:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-51959648
Turns out that a different aircraft burnt down due to the same fault.
https://assets.publishing.service.go...CILR_04-20.pdf
Glad we caught ours before it got a bit serious up in the air.
If you're in one, make sure it's got the upgraded clips.
Not really a design problem.
More a maintainence problem, assembling the parts incorrectly.
OK, in the aviation world we should try do design things failsafe, so incorrect assembly isn't possible - so just a little bit of design fault ;-)
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From: UK
I don't know if their maintenance did later.
I was shown the offending location a few weeks later and it's the same spot in the report that shows the new cable clip.
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From: UK
"The helicopter manufacturer has completed a redesign of the clipping system to ensure the cable clipping cannot be installed incorrectly. The new design of clip is being fitted to new production helicopters and will be available via service bulletin from the manufacturer."

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From: USA
@KNIEVEL77 there is a discussion on that very topic in this Rotorheads thread: Helicopters and Coronavirus
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@KNIEVEL77 there is a discussion on that very topic in this Rotorheads thread: Helicopters and Coronavirus
Last edited by KNIEVEL77; 14th November 2020 at 17:25.

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From: The Alps
Think there’s been another G2 accident apart from the Malaysian one, this time in Switzerland and a damaged Bell 505-
https://www.lenouvelliste.ch/article...a-sion-1004041

https://www.lenouvelliste.ch/article...a-sion-1004041

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From: Manitoba Canada
All the other students in my class had parents who put up money or some had good credit and got loans ... one student his dad mortgaged his farm to raise cash.





