Abu Dhabi Aviation
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From: Kill Box 85CJ
ADA
Pilonrock,
Regular mail to Abu Dhabi
... good luck with that. You're better off scanning and emailing the documents directly and while you're at it make about 10 copies because as far as the Indian mafia is concerned, it's easier for you to just keep filling them out then it is for them to keep track of the originals. They are on their own schedule so there is no time line. My advice: Get EVERYTHING in writing, keep your job until then and have an exit strategy.
Regular mail to Abu Dhabi
... good luck with that. You're better off scanning and emailing the documents directly and while you're at it make about 10 copies because as far as the Indian mafia is concerned, it's easier for you to just keep filling them out then it is for them to keep track of the originals. They are on their own schedule so there is no time line. My advice: Get EVERYTHING in writing, keep your job until then and have an exit strategy.
Joined: Dec 2008
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From: Germany
Thanks
Well that sounds like just the place I want to work
No schedule,No time line or organization?? What was that comment in an earlier thread about the logic free zone
. Being an extremely precise person, meticulous and all, I can see such an environment driving me nuts!
Oh well ,lets see what happens, current job safe. Will have an exit strategy!
Thanks for the intel fellas!
No schedule,No time line or organization?? What was that comment in an earlier thread about the logic free zone
. Being an extremely precise person, meticulous and all, I can see such an environment driving me nuts! Oh well ,lets see what happens, current job safe. Will have an exit strategy!
Thanks for the intel fellas!
Joined: Jul 2008
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From: under the sun
$$$
I've heard there was a payrise recently. Anyone know the new rates?
From what i can gather Cat A (senior Capt) is about $600pd, Cat B (normal capt) is $450 pd, and Cat C (co-pilot) is $300 pd. But are these the new or old rates? Anyone know? Does the company offer a 6&6, and overtime 8&4?
Also, can any current guys tell me what the living conditons are like. I've heard there's new houses being build...
From what i can gather Cat A (senior Capt) is about $600pd, Cat B (normal capt) is $450 pd, and Cat C (co-pilot) is $300 pd. But are these the new or old rates? Anyone know? Does the company offer a 6&6, and overtime 8&4?
Also, can any current guys tell me what the living conditons are like. I've heard there's new houses being build...
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From: Kill Box 85CJ
$$$
Off Shore CAT "A" is 616 USD. You will have to take a number and wait for someone to quit or die to move up. SAR is not entitled to this despite what they may tell you. If your offer letter says "CAT A" look closely and you may find a hook, line and sinker attached.
New housing is nice (w/ Paki engineering
)but it is near OMAA so you will want a car/transportation. (Khalifa City is a big construction zone in the middle of nowhere) The labor camp is still opened. Probably won't last long as the Zayad Mosque is nearing completion. I wouldn't live there but it is a piece of aviation history in all its 3rd World glory. More importantly it is closer to civilization.
Off-Shore work seems stable and consistant but I wasn't on that side of ops.
New housing is nice (w/ Paki engineering
)but it is near OMAA so you will want a car/transportation. (Khalifa City is a big construction zone in the middle of nowhere) The labor camp is still opened. Probably won't last long as the Zayad Mosque is nearing completion. I wouldn't live there but it is a piece of aviation history in all its 3rd World glory. More importantly it is closer to civilization.Off-Shore work seems stable and consistant but I wasn't on that side of ops.
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: norfolk
Current positions
Are they in need of AW139 co pilots at present, does anyone know? I have filled in the online application form but not sure they need people...didn't they recruit not so long ago.
Many thanks
Many thanks
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From: under the sun
$$$
SASless,
The numbers i was given was from a current employee, so quiet accurate. And yes, they only pay you for time on base.
So a Cat C Coey (me) on 6&6 would be makin USD$51,000
. I got a mate who just went to Bristow Nigeria (and lovin it) and he's on about USD$105,000 for coey 6&6!
No wonder why ADA has such a high turnover.
The numbers i was given was from a current employee, so quiet accurate. And yes, they only pay you for time on base.
So a Cat C Coey (me) on 6&6 would be makin USD$51,000
. I got a mate who just went to Bristow Nigeria (and lovin it) and he's on about USD$105,000 for coey 6&6! No wonder why ADA has such a high turnover.
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From: middle east
ADA 'Experience'
C = co-captain; 1000 hrs with frozen ATPL. Expected to 'finish' ATP within 18 months of joining. $300/day
B = regular captain i.e. most who'll not be lucky enough to be in the A crowd. $492/day
A = super dooper captain. ATP obviously & rated on 2 of the types operated & external load. IFR plus night (although I would think B caps would be too). $616/day
A&B both require 3500 hrs (bend-able?). All rates only paid on, no leave pay. Structure of packages remains to be seen i.e. witheld service bonus, gratuities etc.
As you can guess, only a few will be in the A group but its the marketing benefit of being able to say "over six hundred bucks a day at ADA'' Does sound good and as long as the rates keep going up in the region it's good for the industry. It's already made Gulf Helos push their rates up
B = regular captain i.e. most who'll not be lucky enough to be in the A crowd. $492/day
A = super dooper captain. ATP obviously & rated on 2 of the types operated & external load. IFR plus night (although I would think B caps would be too). $616/day
A&B both require 3500 hrs (bend-able?). All rates only paid on, no leave pay. Structure of packages remains to be seen i.e. witheld service bonus, gratuities etc.
As you can guess, only a few will be in the A group but its the marketing benefit of being able to say "over six hundred bucks a day at ADA'' Does sound good and as long as the rates keep going up in the region it's good for the industry. It's already made Gulf Helos push their rates up
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From: middle east
Yup, similar, although 50% more for co-pilots is a big difference.
For 6/6 guys it's $50,000 at ADA vs. $33,000 at Gulf which is a considerable chunk of change for a year flying the same machine, same ops, same hours, same conditions just down the coast. It's making a few guys re-evaluate their 3-5 year plans.
FYI - if you'd like a laugh: AW139 type rating at Gulf (internal training, not Italian factory course) is now 5 years/$50,000 bond.
Aaaah, the logic free zone.....
For 6/6 guys it's $50,000 at ADA vs. $33,000 at Gulf which is a considerable chunk of change for a year flying the same machine, same ops, same hours, same conditions just down the coast. It's making a few guys re-evaluate their 3-5 year plans.
FYI - if you'd like a laugh: AW139 type rating at Gulf (internal training, not Italian factory course) is now 5 years/$50,000 bond.
Aaaah, the logic free zone.....
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From: All The Places I Shouldnt Be
Stay as far away from Falcon as possible as long as the Egyptian beancounter is there.
He has taken a good operation and totally F
ked it.
Latest is that one of the pilots was even taken off flying the Sheikh duties because he wouldnt give up the right seat. Good on him and good decision. Better to be moved sideways and still be alive than give in and end up in the same place as John Hanley (may he rest in peace).
Feel sorry for those still working there. Some good people and good equipment but with current Egyptian beancounter there they are going backwards at a rate of knots.
He has taken a good operation and totally F
ked it. Latest is that one of the pilots was even taken off flying the Sheikh duties because he wouldnt give up the right seat. Good on him and good decision. Better to be moved sideways and still be alive than give in and end up in the same place as John Hanley (may he rest in peace).
Feel sorry for those still working there. Some good people and good equipment but with current Egyptian beancounter there they are going backwards at a rate of knots.
