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Old 8th Sep 2011, 15:20
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But surely the "technical ability to safely fly" is not all that is involved in safely flying. How many of us know of "really good handlers" who've been killed by errors of judgment.

No matter how good a stick you are, unless you have decent judgment you are likely to find yourself running out of talent. It's the old story of superior skill being overcome by inferior judgment.

Like it or not, an individual's attention and adherence to rules is reflective of their attitude to limits and boundaries. I contend that an individual who disregards rules in one area of aviation is much more likely to do so in others.
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 15:37
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This was no "accident but was voluntary manslaughter, pure and simple. The outright denial of that fact even when faced with uncontroverted video evidence is shameful.
If you read the definition in your own link you'll see that you are wrong.

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Old 8th Sep 2011, 16:01
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OH - I agree with you; we all fly 'technically safely' when we do an LPC, but if there's a loose connection in the grey matter, there's nothing to stop us behaving like an utter moron later in the day. It seems he put himself in a position that dramatically reduced his options when the unexpected happened. That was unnecessary, avoidable and clearly showed a lack of good judgement. He (obviously) flew dangerously.

I don't agree that just because he didn't keep his paperwork up to date, it necessarily reflects a poor attitude to safe flying.
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 16:09
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SoCal - I'm not spinning it up; we're in violent agreement. He was clearly outside his limits and did a very stupid thing. The really stupid bit though, was doing it to impress a couple of innocent and trusting infants in the back. I'm sure they would have been at least as impressed if he'd have flown calmly and sensibly
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 16:18
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Likewise...
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 16:28
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I don't agree that just because he didn't keep his paperwork up to date, it necessarily reflects a poor attitude to safe flying.
I can't comment upon the particular case but, as a general proposition, I agree with you.
It may but, as you say, not necessarily.


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Old 8th Sep 2011, 16:31
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SoCal - I don't accept that "indicates a somewhat cavalier attitude to the safety regime imposed by the Civil Aviation Authority" is necessarily true. It might indicate all sorts of things. Lazy at paperwork? CAA phobia? Dyslexia?! He could have been superbly competent for all we know. My first point is that you can prove you are technically safe with a test, but having a piece of paper that says you're safe to fly, doesn't make you safe to fly! It doesn't prevent an irresponsible attitude.

According to the video evidence, CM did another A check before that short last flight. So, my second point is that he thought he was being conscientious. He thought he was flying within limits. He was wrong - and it was that lack of judgement that cost the senseless waste of three innocent lives.
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Old 8th Sep 2011, 18:05
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If you have lived life with choppers and slurped the intoxicating liqueur, then you have been tempted to stray from the path of the innocent.....

Dont kid yourselves Pontious Pilots...................
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I find it such a shame that when someone does something like this that they take others with them in the accident.
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