Flying over London: Heli-lanes etc
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I am gonna come in here more often!
ShyT - oddly enough - I am just out of the avoids!! (nr St Neots school) I only get bounced when you recover to the Bush from the NW - and you are aiming for my house/chalk pits!!
Which S76 do you fly then? We must have spoken at some stage!
PM me if you don't feel brave enough to say - have a few Q's for you guys!
ShyT - oddly enough - I am just out of the avoids!! (nr St Neots school) I only get bounced when you recover to the Bush from the NW - and you are aiming for my house/chalk pits!!
Which S76 do you fly then? We must have spoken at some stage!
PM me if you don't feel brave enough to say - have a few Q's for you guys!
Avoid imitations
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Alan,
Check your pm.
Check your pm.
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Northolt - Landings
I've dropped an R44 into Northolt once in a hurry when I got caught in a Thunderstorm. Shame was they were closed though.
Having some RAF MP come at you asking questions about why you landed there with his hand on his hip, just above his revolver was a little un-nerving, especially to the three ladies I had with me.
Took my particulars (
) and I left when it stopped throwing cats an dogs down. Never heard anything after that.
Bet my files in now well and truely marked at '5 and SB.
Simon
Having some RAF MP come at you asking questions about why you landed there with his hand on his hip, just above his revolver was a little un-nerving, especially to the three ladies I had with me.
Took my particulars (
) and I left when it stopped throwing cats an dogs down. Never heard anything after that.Bet my files in now well and truely marked at '5 and SB.
Simon
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Vanguard HLS
The HLS is in the "Specified Area" so you will need a Rule 5(1)(c)(ii) Permission from the boys in the Belgrano - or else you may be in trouble. You can get the Permission for single engine hels. 
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I think I know what you mean, but as you are allowed on the river in a single, why cant you just fly into the Vanguard without speaking to the men from Gatwick?
I thought that the Vanguard was right next to the Thames?
I thought that the Vanguard was right next to the Thames?
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London Helilanes
Rule 5(1)(c)(i) states that you may not fly over a congested area below 1500 ft above the highest object within 600 m of the helicopter without permission from the Belgrano in writing.
H4, which Vanguard is on, has a height of 2000 ft - so no problem with the rule for overflying the site on H4.
Why, I hear you cry, therefore can I fly along other Helilanes below this height? The answer lies in Rule 5(2)(a)(i) & (ii) which say that the provisions of Rule 5(1)(c)(i) do not apply when flying on a route notified or SVFR. Both these apply to the Helilanes in the London Zone.
So - no problem in landing? Sadly yes as by reading further into Rule 5(2)(a) you find that the waiver that the provisions do not apply is invalid if the helo is landing or taking off.
Phew!!
The upshot is that you DO need a Belgrano permission to land at Vanguard.
Don't shoot me - I am only the bearer of the bad news you did not want to hear.
H4, which Vanguard is on, has a height of 2000 ft - so no problem with the rule for overflying the site on H4.
Why, I hear you cry, therefore can I fly along other Helilanes below this height? The answer lies in Rule 5(2)(a)(i) & (ii) which say that the provisions of Rule 5(1)(c)(i) do not apply when flying on a route notified or SVFR. Both these apply to the Helilanes in the London Zone.
So - no problem in landing? Sadly yes as by reading further into Rule 5(2)(a) you find that the waiver that the provisions do not apply is invalid if the helo is landing or taking off.
Phew!!
The upshot is that you DO need a Belgrano permission to land at Vanguard.
Don't shoot me - I am only the bearer of the bad news you did not want to hear.
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G-TATS (AS350BA) Air Medina Ltd. = Marquis of Milford Haven? Potential developer of Battersea Power Station into a tourist attraction\residential development along with someone from the far east I believe (don't quote me). White "H" to south of Power Station regularly used by TATS, not sure that it's open to other heli's though.
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I've sent Twin Squirrels into Battersea Powerstation quite a few times recently for a client who knows the owner, we have tried to use it on other occasions by asking the client to ask the owner and every time the owner has come back with a big fat no, so unfortunately I think unless you are doing specific business with or for the owner you can safely cross the Powerstation off your list.
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Choppers over London
About 2.30 this afternoon, two civil (ie. no military markings) helicopters flew in very close formation from South East London and stopped about half a mile from Canary Wharf facing it. They then flew round the Canary Wharf towers and then off towards the south of central London again in very close formation and stopping dead occasionally, for up to a minute at a time.
Lost sight of them about 3.00. Any idea who they were and what they were doing?
SoS
Lost sight of them about 3.00. Any idea who they were and what they were doing?
SoS
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Sent via a City of London circulation list this afternoon!
The City of London Police is currently deploying officers on the five City
bridges that provide access to the City of London, with colleagues from the
Metropolitan Police providing valuable support from the air and the river.
This overt police action is part of a pre-planned operation to deter,
disrupt and detect all forms of criminal activity within the central London
area.
The City of London Police is currently deploying officers on the five City
bridges that provide access to the City of London, with colleagues from the
Metropolitan Police providing valuable support from the air and the river.
This overt police action is part of a pre-planned operation to deter,
disrupt and detect all forms of criminal activity within the central London
area.
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I've been noticing these as well over the past week or so, hovering fairly low around the North Greenwich peninsula and then disappearing off in towards central London. A minute or two over the Thames south-east of the Dome and then over the A102 Blackwall Tunnel Approach. I couldn't make out any markings but it did appear to have a camera dome underneath it.
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filming
No it's not castle air.I think you will find it is a pair of MD900 exploreres and a MD 600. operating out of Pinewood studios, since last Tuesday and flying through the night right up until 4 and 5 AM. Mainly in the west of Pinewwod on H10 
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I can tell you that one was G-TELY and that is an A109 registered to Castle Air. I remember writing the strip as Northolt co-ordinated them coming out of the Denham ATZ.
I can even remember making them squawk 7037!!
I can tell you that one was G-TELY and that is an A109 registered to Castle Air. I remember writing the strip as Northolt co-ordinated them coming out of the Denham ATZ.
I can even remember making them squawk 7037!!
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To put all your minds at rest.......!
Wednesday pm: MD600 being filmed by Castle Air 109 G-TELY over H4. Also 2xExplorers in Pinewood area again filmed by G-TELY in the evening.
Thursday pm: A109 being filmed over H4 by G-TELY
Friday eve/night: 2xExplorers and AS355 filmed by G-TELY then ground based filming of Explorers up to 4am at Pinewood area.
For a movie due out next year.
It looked cool.
Ciao!
Wednesday pm: MD600 being filmed by Castle Air 109 G-TELY over H4. Also 2xExplorers in Pinewood area again filmed by G-TELY in the evening.
Thursday pm: A109 being filmed over H4 by G-TELY
Friday eve/night: 2xExplorers and AS355 filmed by G-TELY then ground based filming of Explorers up to 4am at Pinewood area.
For a movie due out next year.
It looked cool.
Ciao!
Everybody's gotta be somewhere
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Thanks for all the responses to SoSs original question.
I was sitting under a tree just beyond the NE end of 06/24 yesterday pm and it's great to find out what some of the aircraft I've been watching were doing.
Also, I hope my wife sunbathing directly under the flight path didn't upset any of the pilots operating out of Denham yesterday.
dd
I was sitting under a tree just beyond the NE end of 06/24 yesterday pm and it's great to find out what some of the aircraft I've been watching were doing.
Also, I hope my wife sunbathing directly under the flight path didn't upset any of the pilots operating out of Denham yesterday.
dd