Who's going to do basic SAR rear crew trg?
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Aussie Mafia
Not only the Senior pilot, The Senior Engineer, and now the Senior Crewman, have all maved on. word on the street is that there may be some unrest due to the Aussie Mafia within the company.
The Aussie M.D has apparantly put His Aussie air ambulance mate in the senior crewmans seat (to run a UK SAR unit)????. The senior engines just left was apparantly ex aussie and left because it was overwhelming him, too much pressure (bloody Girl)!!!, The senior pilot initially hired left due to bullying from above( probably thought he was a Sheila)!!!.
Next thing you know they'll all be drinkin sheep dip and trying to strike up the Bar - B in ABZ's tropical climate.....Strooth!!
The Aussie M.D has apparantly put His Aussie air ambulance mate in the senior crewmans seat (to run a UK SAR unit)????. The senior engines just left was apparantly ex aussie and left because it was overwhelming him, too much pressure (bloody Girl)!!!, The senior pilot initially hired left due to bullying from above( probably thought he was a Sheila)!!!.
Next thing you know they'll all be drinkin sheep dip and trying to strike up the Bar - B in ABZ's tropical climate.....Strooth!!
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I doubt the accruracy of the Jigsawpuzzle's information. I think you'll find that the Chief pilot left because it was all too much, and the Chief Engineer left simply for a better job, apparrently head hunted. Word is the guys are dissapointed to see him go, as he did a stella job.
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Aussie Chief
The swipe at the Aussie Air Ambulance crewman could not be further from the truth he is a very experienced SAR crewman, he is a wealth of SAR experience including years on the West coast of Ireland, which the old chief crewman could not hack!!!!
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This all sounds like a bit of Bond Bashing - what's up people? From the earlier comments in this thread it sounded like all was rosy. I have a couple of mates who have just joined Jigsaw on leaving the military, hope they haven't gone to the wrong job!
Sorry, just making mischief.
Sorry, just making mischief.
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OH AT your not making mischief, mentioning the Bond crewman that got dumped on his bum from 12 foot, then whipped off the deck of the ARCC ERIK would be making mischief. Funnily enough Bond2 immediately left, must have wanted to get battered winchman home for some ice on his bruises. 
Oh dear have I said too much? NO, well I shall save the rest for another time.
Oh dear have I said too much? NO, well I shall save the rest for another time.
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SARBallast - Interesting stuff. But I would be a hypocrite if I didn't admit to bouncing a few winchmen. There are a few exagerated stories still doing the rounds concerning an incident at Dover a few years back.
I'll show you mine if you show me yours
AT
I'll show you mine if you show me yours
AT
Any news on Jigsaw
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back to the thread title
Lets put some rumours to rest, this PDF is in the public domain.
Seakings, S92's, AB139's, all to be replaced....38 operational A/C in total, 1/2 dozen in heavies
what about all those converting to type now?? 139's and 92's bit of a waste of time
225's?? 44 on order????, who said that!!
Joint Civvy and Mil crews trained at SARTU continuation Trng by contractor, that will be interesting, I'd like to see the military chaps trying to dish out orders to a civvy 
Falklands Tour
http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/sar-hin...esentation.pdf
I hope this is of some interested to all you SAR buoys!!
......When are YOU going to make the jump to civvy street, maybe wise to do it sooner than later, or are you going to wait for the mass exodus when all Mil guys finally realise the inevitable, there is more to life than a couple of hundred quid pension per month that you will give half of to Mr Gordon Brown...
Seakings, S92's, AB139's, all to be replaced....38 operational A/C in total, 1/2 dozen in heavies
what about all those converting to type now?? 139's and 92's bit of a waste of time
225's?? 44 on order????, who said that!!
Joint Civvy and Mil crews trained at SARTU continuation Trng by contractor, that will be interesting, I'd like to see the military chaps trying to dish out orders to a civvy
Falklands Tour
http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/sar-hin...esentation.pdf
I hope this is of some interested to all you SAR buoys!!
......When are YOU going to make the jump to civvy street, maybe wise to do it sooner than later, or are you going to wait for the mass exodus when all Mil guys finally realise the inevitable, there is more to life than a couple of hundred quid pension per month that you will give half of to Mr Gordon Brown...
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Well here's a first! Someone who believes what DPA say. Only a matter of a couple of years ago under SABR SAR the RAF and RN were going to get new helicopters and the MCA were going to be harmonised (whatever that means).
Don't believe everything you read.
As for 225's - now that is funny.
Don't believe everything you read.
As for 225's - now that is funny.
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The final comment by Julie Storey 'looking forward to getting on with it' sums up the process - very slow and unwieldy in order to tick all the boxes when none of the contractors want the hassle of having to build/create new bases, they just want the MoD to hand over the existing ones so they can 'get on with it'.
If milSAR is retained there will still be a big gap between the MCA getting started in 2012 (presuming new aircraft are introduced) and the military who haven't got enough money to fund their side of the deal until at least 2015.
Where is the money for the helicopters (SAR and SH) - oh we used that for fighters that we don't need.
If milSAR is retained there will still be a big gap between the MCA getting started in 2012 (presuming new aircraft are introduced) and the military who haven't got enough money to fund their side of the deal until at least 2015.
Where is the money for the helicopters (SAR and SH) - oh we used that for fighters that we don't need.
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"none of the contractors want the hassle of having to build/create new bases, they just want the MoD to hand over the existing ones so they can 'get on with it'."
god forbid they hand over the buildings at Leconfield. H & S would have a field day on the stairs from ops to the dispersal!
god forbid they hand over the buildings at Leconfield. H & S would have a field day on the stairs from ops to the dispersal!
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god forbid they hand over the buildings at Leconfield. H & S would have a field day on the stairs from ops to the dispersal!
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SB
I think most people on this forum can probably work out who I am. The Managing Pilot is ex RN, ex SAR Ireland so you are completely wrong. I have 5500hrs most of which is SAR. If you have genuine concerns about an operation I suggest you take them up through the proper channels. If you are from Bristows and I'm not saying you are, then I would seriously wind your neck in. People in glass houses should certainly not throw stones. If you have spoken to the ARCC Commander I wouldn't think he would want his personal opinions airing on this forum - he is a BP contractor as well. This is last thing I am going to comment on in this forum as it has gone beyond rumour and fun.
I think most people on this forum can probably work out who I am. The Managing Pilot is ex RN, ex SAR Ireland so you are completely wrong. I have 5500hrs most of which is SAR. If you have genuine concerns about an operation I suggest you take them up through the proper channels. If you are from Bristows and I'm not saying you are, then I would seriously wind your neck in. People in glass houses should certainly not throw stones. If you have spoken to the ARCC Commander I wouldn't think he would want his personal opinions airing on this forum - he is a BP contractor as well. This is last thing I am going to comment on in this forum as it has gone beyond rumour and fun.
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Fair point going back and editing my post, apologies I am getting suckered into the online thing. The only thing I will say is I dont live in a glass house, and am merely repeating what a lot of people up in shetland are talking about. And no it isn't just the Bristow people who have heard about this, locals have been talking too. Perhaps THATS the problem, repeating gossip, so again apologies for getting caught up in the gossip trap.
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from the horses mouth
SB as you are well aware of who I am, and I know who you are, and you know what happened to me during my time at the "greatest SAR company in the world" ,probably best keeping your opinions to yourself. 
,probably best keeping your opinions to yourself.