Training in Ireland (Incl Licence topics)
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Training and Jobs prospects in Ireland
Hello fellow Ppruners, i am looking for FAA Helicopter CFI's in Ireland preferably in the Dublin area in order to get my annual flight review.
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Career advice needed for irish man!
This is a question for some heli pilot ou there!
I have my JAA PPL! I would like to get a JAA CPL H by getting an FAA CPL A first then convert that to FAA CPL H then convert that to JAA CPL H ???
hOW DO i do it??????
I have my JAA PPL! I would like to get a JAA CPL H by getting an FAA CPL A first then convert that to FAA CPL H then convert that to JAA CPL H ???
hOW DO i do it??????
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There's almost no advantage by getting a FAA CPL(A) first. Second there is no such thing as a conversion from FAA to JAA. You just have to sit all the exams and do a flight test.
So either go for the FAA CPL(H) or do the JAA CPL(H) from the beginning.
So either go for the FAA CPL(H) or do the JAA CPL(H) from the beginning.
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As always this is the way I understand it, but someone more knowledgable than myself (not difficult) may correct me.
Once you have acquired your FAA CPL(A) you can do an add on licence to get the FAA CPL(H), then to covert that to the JAA CPL(H) you will either have to sit at least the 9 JAA CPL exams (or 14 ATPL) and pass the JAA CPL(H) flight skills at test.
OR
After your FAA licences are completed you can sit the exams and complete a JAA CPL(H) modular course.
Either way for the JAA 185 hours and the exams are a required, the exams tend to be the thing that upsets most people and generally take up a lot of time. You do get some credit from the FAA for FW hours but the JAA aren't so accommodating.
Hope that helps?
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Once you have acquired your FAA CPL(A) you can do an add on licence to get the FAA CPL(H), then to covert that to the JAA CPL(H) you will either have to sit at least the 9 JAA CPL exams (or 14 ATPL) and pass the JAA CPL(H) flight skills at test.
OR
After your FAA licences are completed you can sit the exams and complete a JAA CPL(H) modular course.
Either way for the JAA 185 hours and the exams are a required, the exams tend to be the thing that upsets most people and generally take up a lot of time. You do get some credit from the FAA for FW hours but the JAA aren't so accommodating.
Hope that helps?
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Thanks for the advice guys!
Im trying to get my JAA CPL H,the cheapest way I can because im broke!
Mabey that HAI school in Florida are alright but the JAA CPL H,costs like 50,000!!! alot of money and then do a CFI on top of that!!!!
Any more advice on getting my Heli career on the go would be good!
BTW, i am applying to the airforce but i probaly wont get in so ill have to pay for all my training!!!!
Im trying to get my JAA CPL H,the cheapest way I can because im broke!
Mabey that HAI school in Florida are alright but the JAA CPL H,costs like 50,000!!! alot of money and then do a CFI on top of that!!!!
Any more advice on getting my Heli career on the go would be good!
BTW, i am applying to the airforce but i probaly wont get in so ill have to pay for all my training!!!!
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HillerBee is right, HOWEVER..
You need to consider a couple of things here..
1. JAA License or FAA license and why?
2. Flight hours (experience) to get your career started.
What I do know, is that it's gonna be a hard time getting a job as a commercial helodriver in the UK, or Europe for that matter, with a couple of hundred flight hours.
This is where the FAA license comes in to play.
Because, on a J1 Study visa in the US, you are allowed to stay for about 24 months doing your training and hopefully getting some flight experience as a flight instructor after. (Yes, flight instructors are hired with less than 200 Hr's experience in the US!)
Then you enroll with a british ground school ie. for your full JAA training, there is no "conversion", however you will already have a good foundation from the FAA training plus lots of flight hours to build on now!
You can actually do the JAA CPL-H fligth test with Helicopter Adventures Inc. in FL.
Last but not least.. Price! A dual flight lesson in the US (east coast), in a Schweizer 300 CB/i is about $205 Hr these days.. What is it in the UK?? Lots more I'm sure!
Good Luck!
WingRotor
You need to consider a couple of things here..
1. JAA License or FAA license and why?
2. Flight hours (experience) to get your career started.
What I do know, is that it's gonna be a hard time getting a job as a commercial helodriver in the UK, or Europe for that matter, with a couple of hundred flight hours.
This is where the FAA license comes in to play.
Because, on a J1 Study visa in the US, you are allowed to stay for about 24 months doing your training and hopefully getting some flight experience as a flight instructor after. (Yes, flight instructors are hired with less than 200 Hr's experience in the US!)
Then you enroll with a british ground school ie. for your full JAA training, there is no "conversion", however you will already have a good foundation from the FAA training plus lots of flight hours to build on now!
You can actually do the JAA CPL-H fligth test with Helicopter Adventures Inc. in FL.
Last but not least.. Price! A dual flight lesson in the US (east coast), in a Schweizer 300 CB/i is about $205 Hr these days.. What is it in the UK?? Lots more I'm sure!
Good Luck!
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Originally Posted by Sean H
Thanks for the advice guys!
Im trying to get my JAA CPL H,the cheapest way I can because im broke!
Mabey that HAI school in Florida are alright but the JAA CPL H,costs like €50,000!!! alot of money and then do a CFI on top of that!!!!
Any more advice on getting my Heli career on the go would be good!
BTW, i am applying to the airforce but i probaly wont get in so ill have to pay for all my training!!!!
Im trying to get my JAA CPL H,the cheapest way I can because im broke!
Mabey that HAI school in Florida are alright but the JAA CPL H,costs like €50,000!!! alot of money and then do a CFI on top of that!!!!
Any more advice on getting my Heli career on the go would be good!
BTW, i am applying to the airforce but i probaly wont get in so ill have to pay for all my training!!!!
Modular will probably be dearer still, but at least you can work while doing it - it just takes longer normally.
There are a lot more things to think about on top of the basic JAA CPL(H) - and all of it will lead to more money required.
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An hour in the UK
In the UK, an hour in an R22 could easily cost you $600.....
Ofcourse there are variances, but if money is an issue, you'll never get away cheaper in the UK.
Work for a few years, save the money, go to the US....welcome to the club of pre-flight moneysavers
- it's not fun, but there's not much else to do.
Ofcourse there are variances, but if money is an issue, you'll never get away cheaper in the UK.
Work for a few years, save the money, go to the US....welcome to the club of pre-flight moneysavers
- it's not fun, but there's not much else to do.
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There is no easy way.If you are 17 as you suggest bite the bullet and get on with it,beg borrow or steal.50k may be hard to come by but its a cheap career if its really your passion.I suggest you get a Class 1 medical right away and do a ppl first,if your still keen then make it a career.
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Training and Jobs prospects in Ireland
I am current training for my PPL(H) in Ireland and have about 10hrs completed. I had a Class 2 medical done some time back but it looks like I will not pass as my eyesight was too poor before I had the Laser Operation (although I have perfect 20/20 vision now
). I have made my case to the IAA but its not looking good.
This leaves me with only one option heading over to the US to train under the FAA.
I am only interested in fly as a hobby so I am wondering how this will affect me when I return. Am I correct in saying I can only fly G registered a/c in Ireland. If so, what are the chances of finding/renting an R22/Schweizer here?
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
). I have made my case to the IAA but its not looking good.This leaves me with only one option heading over to the US to train under the FAA.
I am only interested in fly as a hobby so I am wondering how this will affect me when I return. Am I correct in saying I can only fly G registered a/c in Ireland. If so, what are the chances of finding/renting an R22/Schweizer here?
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
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Can't see why the IAA are a problem, get yourself a medical done, if you pass, they can't argue. If you don't have to wear spectacles/lenses you even cop out of the JAA requirement for an optemetrists report.
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As far as I know if you have an FAA licence in Ireland the I.A.A. will recognise it for private use on either N or EI reg aircraft. So maybe the FAA private is all you need if you just want to do some pleasure flying.
It could have changed of course but that's what they said a while back.
It could have changed of course but that's what they said a while back.
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If you get a FAA PPL you can fly EI reg or N reg in Ireland with no problems. You have to have a FAA Class 2 Medical in Ireland for the IAA to recognise the FAA Licence. SO as long as you kepp your FAA Class 2 Medical current you can fly away for a hobby. Most training companies in Ireland rent out 22s after doing a short test flight with an instructor to make sure you fly ok. Cost varies between 300 and 350 an hour. Good luck with it and enjoy flying around Ireland.
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You would be a way better off going over to the US for a couple of weeks and getting your licence. Where about are you in Ireland? i'm in the SW....pm me i might be able to point you in the right direction. I'm in Florida right now got my helicopter check ride on Thursday.
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