Gyrocopters/Autogyros
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From: In my box!
http://www.pal-v.com/
A friend of mine holds a license for gyro's i'll have a chat with him and get back to you........
Wish i had the money for the carver pal-v.
A friend of mine holds a license for gyro's i'll have a chat with him and get back to you........
Wish i had the money for the carver pal-v.
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From: N England
Heres a few to go at other than the ones already mentioned.
http://www.gyrotraining.com/uk.htm
Ive met Steve Boxall on a handfull of occasions and hes a nice chap.Hes flying the latest German Two seat trainer now.It might be worthwhile giving him a call or view his website here.
http://www.gyrotraining.co.uk/
http://www.gyrotraining.com/uk.htm
Ive met Steve Boxall on a handfull of occasions and hes a nice chap.Hes flying the latest German Two seat trainer now.It might be worthwhile giving him a call or view his website here.
http://www.gyrotraining.co.uk/
Last edited by Barshifter; 7th August 2007 at 08:57.
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From: N.Africa for now
Gyroplanes
HJ
I flew gyro's for 10 years and know a bit about them so if you send me an email i can answer your questions.
Generally good fun to fly but like all flying machines they have a few traps which catch out the uninitiated and people who don't train properly. There are a few schools around which offer dual, followed by solo instruction and i can give you my own opinion about who not to go and spend your money with.
I flew gyro's for 10 years and know a bit about them so if you send me an email i can answer your questions.
Generally good fun to fly but like all flying machines they have a few traps which catch out the uninitiated and people who don't train properly. There are a few schools around which offer dual, followed by solo instruction and i can give you my own opinion about who not to go and spend your money with.
Joined: May 2007
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From: Up the Road
Autogyros
Thanks very much to everyone for their advice.
I have done all the usual searches that you do when you get the bit between the teeth.
Personal opinion always wins though and there is no substitute for experience, even if it does belong to someone else.
Cheers
HJ
I have done all the usual searches that you do when you get the bit between the teeth.
Personal opinion always wins though and there is no substitute for experience, even if it does belong to someone else.
Cheers
HJ
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Wiltshire
Gyro Info
A good place for some info on autogyros is the Britsh Rotorcraft Association website www.gyroplanes.org
There's a list of gyro instructors on there.
If you are after a factory built machine rather than a homebuilt, the only one available at the moment is the MT-03, from www.rotorsport.org
There are kits available from www.layzellgyroplanes.com and www.gyrocopters.co.uk . The challenge with single seaters is learning how to fly them (!), which isn't helped by the fact that there are only a couple of instructors who will teach single-seat.
There's a list of gyro instructors on there.
If you are after a factory built machine rather than a homebuilt, the only one available at the moment is the MT-03, from www.rotorsport.org
There are kits available from www.layzellgyroplanes.com and www.gyrocopters.co.uk . The challenge with single seaters is learning how to fly them (!), which isn't helped by the fact that there are only a couple of instructors who will teach single-seat.
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From: In the air with luck
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From: London NW4 4LG
Auto-rotary craft
Trying to outline design an auto-totary craft concept, was saddened to be reminded of poor safety record in fairly recent years though a little better more recently; the thread is most helpful in identifying main causes especially coincidence between both statistical and inherent causes thank posts for technical explanations. Yet I believe that when oiriginal Cierva autogiros and derivatives were conceived and developed throughout the 1930's they had better safety record than GA then. It had all been about avoiding fixed wing stall, before powered autogyros became helicopters.
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From: UK
Paul,
It depends what code the thing is designed to. In the UK the CAA have done a great job developing a code for light gyros. This is the one that all manufactured gyros for UK registration have to comply with - known as BCAR Section T (CAP 643). There is a new version of Sect T published last year.
If you want to get into design of gyros, it is essential reading.
Like any aircraft, good training is essential, but that is not design
It depends what code the thing is designed to. In the UK the CAA have done a great job developing a code for light gyros. This is the one that all manufactured gyros for UK registration have to comply with - known as BCAR Section T (CAP 643). There is a new version of Sect T published last year.
If you want to get into design of gyros, it is essential reading.
Like any aircraft, good training is essential, but that is not design
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From: London NW4 4LG
Auto-rotary craft
Very belated thanks "Helinut" for most helpful, necessary, advice re CAA code on autogyro design from which I have been learning applicable details. Ultimately I understand that safety will derive from pilot training and skill, but I believe that design of aircraft has to contribute. Even in the CAA specifications it does at least twice refer to activation of a control and its effect should be within capability of an average pilot of average strength. Also they have identified a past cause of accidents where starting procedure was wholly or partly initiated outside the craft; such that now mandatory for design to accomodate pilot in place from start.
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From: London NW4 4LG
U-STOL
"ZEEO" seems among the most positive regarding autorotary craft, but I can't generate link demonstrating manoeuvrability in TV film. I believe the remaining risks can yet be overcome to make them inhrerently safest as they once were. Paul Lederman
