Yobs throw rocks at air ambulance
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Yobs throw rocks at air ambulance
http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/View...icleID=1584388
YOBS threw rocks at the Yorkshire Air Ambulance after it delivered a patient who needed emergency attention, putting it out of action for hours.
Yesterday the chief executive of the air ambulance, Martin Eede, condemned the thugs, saying that they had not only put the lives of paramedics and his staff at risk but patients' lives as well.
The crew was were transferring a patient who had suffered a ruptured aorta from Airedale General Hospital to Leeds General Infirmary.
The helicopter landed at Woodhouse Moor, Leeds, on Wednesday evening, where it was met by an ambulance crew.
As it was flying off a small group of youths began throwing stones.
When the aircraft returned to base it was grounded so mechanics could strip the engine to make sure no stones had got inside.
Mr Eede said: "We are paid for by the people of Yorkshire, we are a charity and we do not want some mindless youths attacking it and putting peoples' lives at risk in this way."
The helicopter was grounded Wednesday evening and Thursday morning. Superficial damage was caused to its frame.
Mr Eede added: "It is not only putting our paramedics and pilots at risk, it is putting patients at risk – we were not able to fly yesterday morning if we were needed."
He said the patient had been transferred safely to the infirmary. It is the first time the air ambulance has ever experienced such problems.
A spokesman for West Yorkshire Police said they had been alerted to the incident.
23 June 2006
YOBS threw rocks at the Yorkshire Air Ambulance after it delivered a patient who needed emergency attention, putting it out of action for hours.
Yesterday the chief executive of the air ambulance, Martin Eede, condemned the thugs, saying that they had not only put the lives of paramedics and his staff at risk but patients' lives as well.
The crew was were transferring a patient who had suffered a ruptured aorta from Airedale General Hospital to Leeds General Infirmary.
The helicopter landed at Woodhouse Moor, Leeds, on Wednesday evening, where it was met by an ambulance crew.
As it was flying off a small group of youths began throwing stones.
When the aircraft returned to base it was grounded so mechanics could strip the engine to make sure no stones had got inside.
Mr Eede said: "We are paid for by the people of Yorkshire, we are a charity and we do not want some mindless youths attacking it and putting peoples' lives at risk in this way."
The helicopter was grounded Wednesday evening and Thursday morning. Superficial damage was caused to its frame.
Mr Eede added: "It is not only putting our paramedics and pilots at risk, it is putting patients at risk – we were not able to fly yesterday morning if we were needed."
He said the patient had been transferred safely to the infirmary. It is the first time the air ambulance has ever experienced such problems.
A spokesman for West Yorkshire Police said they had been alerted to the incident.
23 June 2006
Mindless Yobs
Well, yes. Wouldn't you love to throttle them?
But that kind of reaction by sections of alienated British groups is not at all new: the fire service comes under attack in various parts of the country from time to time.
It begs a bigger question of why so many young British men feel no sense of civic connection with such services, which in a balanced community would be respected and valued.
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But that kind of reaction by sections of alienated British groups is not at all new: the fire service comes under attack in various parts of the country from time to time.
It begs a bigger question of why so many young British men feel no sense of civic connection with such services, which in a balanced community would be respected and valued.
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Jeez..am I never going to be able to escape this crap? We was stoned 3 weeks ago by a group of youths whilst on the way back from a call in the fire engine. One of the reasons i want to complete the UK CPL is so i can get away from all this stuff, now it seems that i will be dodging rocks in a heli too!
I just hope that we can get a government who will finally have the balls to tackle this virus like infection of youth "Attitude" as it is getting worse and worse and its come down to the fact they know they will get away with it.
What do you think to the idea of bringing back national service in the UK? College/University, legitimate apprenticeship or 2 years national service? Think it would do the trick for a majority of "Scroats"
Answers on a post card and sent directly to Big Tony "Im going to sort out your country" Blair!
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I just hope that we can get a government who will finally have the balls to tackle this virus like infection of youth "Attitude" as it is getting worse and worse and its come down to the fact they know they will get away with it.
What do you think to the idea of bringing back national service in the UK? College/University, legitimate apprenticeship or 2 years national service? Think it would do the trick for a majority of "Scroats"
Answers on a post card and sent directly to Big Tony "Im going to sort out your country" Blair!
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Surely this is more than a case of some youths with bad attitudes, and much more to do with endemic poverty and alienated social groups. Why does the UK experience much more of this than say Norway or Sweden? Throwing rocks at fire engines and helis ain't normal in a balanced society with balanced people.
That isn't to say a good kick up the culprits' arses isn't due
TT
That isn't to say a good kick up the culprits' arses isn't due
TT
We have a generation of youth who were not allowed to be disciplined at school or by the police without outrage from 'human rights' groups and 'anti-smacking' do-gooders and as such see themselves as untouchable. As with all things in life, if there are no discernable boundaries then people, especially young men, will keep pushing until they find the boundaries of acceptable behaviour - that is why they get to the stage of happy slapping, then knife attacks and the first boundary they meet is being arrested for assault, manslaughter or murder.
This is certainly not about endemic poverty - they come from a generation that wants it all and has it all - now - without waiting, and the lack of parental control just makes it worse. The kids lack direction, either from their parents or the government and are looking for thrills and kicks from either drugs or violence or both - the inevitable consequence is an increase in crime as they lack respect for the society which appears to have failed them.
The answer? maybe cutting the goolies off will sort some of the boys out, but what about the girls who are just as bad? Some sort of national service might help, we could send them out to do humanitarian work in the properly deprived areas of the world.
If we could stop pandering to the minority of lefty, liberal 'intellectuals' who keep telling us that the rights of the individual are paramount and go back to the proven concept that the rights of the majority must be respected at least as much if any society is going to function properly, then we might start to reverse a very dangerous trend that has taken us a long way down a dark path.
This is certainly not about endemic poverty - they come from a generation that wants it all and has it all - now - without waiting, and the lack of parental control just makes it worse. The kids lack direction, either from their parents or the government and are looking for thrills and kicks from either drugs or violence or both - the inevitable consequence is an increase in crime as they lack respect for the society which appears to have failed them.
The answer? maybe cutting the goolies off will sort some of the boys out, but what about the girls who are just as bad? Some sort of national service might help, we could send them out to do humanitarian work in the properly deprived areas of the world.
If we could stop pandering to the minority of lefty, liberal 'intellectuals' who keep telling us that the rights of the individual are paramount and go back to the proven concept that the rights of the majority must be respected at least as much if any society is going to function properly, then we might start to reverse a very dangerous trend that has taken us a long way down a dark path.
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Crab, I agree. I am the father of sons. In their teenage years, in particular, it seems that they have found the boundaries imposed by myself and their mother to be a comfort blanket and a place to tie up against in a storm (not that they would admit it at the time). I was the same with my parents.
It appears that some of their friends and aquaintances, for various reasons, don't initially have these boundaries laid out and have found the transition towards adulthood rather more difficult.
Perhaps most folk eventually come to find more or less the same boundaries but the ones who are shown them earlier don't fall foul of the umpires so often in the process.
It appears that some of their friends and aquaintances, for various reasons, don't initially have these boundaries laid out and have found the transition towards adulthood rather more difficult.
Perhaps most folk eventually come to find more or less the same boundaries but the ones who are shown them earlier don't fall foul of the umpires so often in the process.
The rights of an individual ARE paramount EXCEPT when those rights would impinge on the rights of the population as a whole. Thats what the legislation should say, but our namby pamby government is too frightened of upsetting the lefties to write that in.
How come the Irish government can have human rights legislation allowing it to ban travellers from un-approved sites, when we can't?
How come the Irish government can have human rights legislation allowing it to ban travellers from un-approved sites, when we can't?
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its a multi-facted problem. lack of discipline in the home/school, lack of respect for authority, poverty, broken homes, lack of facilities for young people, increased violence in everyday life, bad schooling, the increasing fractionalised society we live in, lack of 'community', increased alcohol/drug use, the 'me-me-me' thatcherist consumerist values.. i could go on.
it's all very well saying these people are "bad" and they should be strung-up/sent to national services, but that is just a daily mail reactionist viewpoint which doesnt contribute anything to the debate
now before you all jump on me, i'm not excusing their behaviour but trying to maybe explain how we got to this situation
unfortunately "yob culture" in an ever-increasing problem in UK society. not one thing can explain it
it's all very well saying these people are "bad" and they should be strung-up/sent to national services, but that is just a daily mail reactionist viewpoint which doesnt contribute anything to the debate
now before you all jump on me, i'm not excusing their behaviour but trying to maybe explain how we got to this situation
unfortunately "yob culture" in an ever-increasing problem in UK society. not one thing can explain it
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I remember a time when kids used to dream about becoming heli pilots not throw things at them!!!!
It is quite funny that this thread has led us all debating on yob behaviour and how we can stamp it out.
Chucking a rock/stone at a heli could lead to a number of people being seriously hurt or even death (not only for those on board)
This is attempted manslaughter - so back to the "hoody hook" and lets stop defending/debating these arrogant little rats. Prison is too good for them
It is quite funny that this thread has led us all debating on yob behaviour and how we can stamp it out.
Chucking a rock/stone at a heli could lead to a number of people being seriously hurt or even death (not only for those on board)
This is attempted manslaughter - so back to the "hoody hook" and lets stop defending/debating these arrogant little rats. Prison is too good for them
Definitely not National Service as it was ie armed forces; when they're demobbed, this would merely produce 'fit' yobs who are in some cases trained to kill. It would have to be a national service which is useful to the population as a whole eg working on farms, building houses etc
Sorry, I can't hold myself back on that one.
YES those kids need attention, they need social rights, freedom and protection in this cruel world, adn most of all the need love...
... hell, those kids need a good beating first
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Maybe that can clear out the world for them, their responsibilities and then, they can MAYBE learn! If not, back to beating the hell out of them! There is no excuse on puting the lives of crew, patients and who knows who else.
... and i'm not a violent guy.
YES those kids need attention, they need social rights, freedom and protection in this cruel world, adn most of all the need love...
... hell, those kids need a good beating first
!Maybe that can clear out the world for them, their responsibilities and then, they can MAYBE learn! If not, back to beating the hell out of them! There is no excuse on puting the lives of crew, patients and who knows who else.
... and i'm not a violent guy.
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Originally Posted by gremlin 030
Crab! You have turned into your Father!
I applaud what [email protected] posted he is stating what most sensible and mature individuals think is going wrong in this country today.