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Old 5th February 2009 | 19:31
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Does anybody know if the FAA's grounding of Alouette 2's for supposedly being ex military aircraft and not being eligable for a c of a been recinded or resolved?
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Old 5th February 2009 | 21:02
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No and there are more than 2 now
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Old 8th February 2009 | 20:15
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AL3

I discovered 2 x AL3's in indonesia

nice condition

may still be on the market

Price ?
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Old 8th February 2009 | 20:32
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There have been several groups of 6+ al2's sold by the German army.

The last batch was sold mid 2008, typical prices for a fully working machine E160K, there are no more !

Hungary CAA has been willing to provide a full EASA CofA once 'civilianization' work is complete. overall machine cost E200K on the reg.

Hungary is a good reg for Helicopters.

Hungary CAA visit UK each year to sign off the Annual

Insurance is typically E800 (yes that right £ 600 ish)

You need a Hungarian airman's certificate and Hungary based training.

Maintenance can be done in UK by two UK based, Hungarian approved engineers - who are very experienced on AL2's - great chaps, reasonably priced.

Spares can be tricky, but I (and other al2 owners) build up stocks of parts and between us with have, so far, not had a problem. Clutches, pumps, some sensors are hard to find but not impossible. MR Blades will eventually be the limiting issue.

My machine (3 yrs - 200+ hrs) is Very reliable, a little thirsty (160 Ltr/hr), noisy but great to fly.

100+ Kts - 5 seats, 3hr endurance, loads of lift, no great vices.

I can't think of a better, low cost, turbine.

if you looking for one I know of 2 that may be for sale. if you want to see one 'in the flesh' come visit at eastbourne.

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Old 19th December 2009 | 01:47
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Alouette II

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New to the post. Does any one know or have info on Alouette II as a crop duster? How does it perform? any recurring maintenance issue etc. Also am looking for a POH as well as maintenance manuals for 318C in English, thanks in advance.
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Old 19th December 2009 | 09:06
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the allouete 11 318 is used for crop dusting in hungary not sure about the 313
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Old 19th December 2009 | 10:17
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Try Mike based in West Virginia
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Old 19th December 2009 | 17:21
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318C as crop duster

thanks, any info on contacts in Hungary?
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Old 19th December 2009 | 17:35
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POH

hi

I have POH and full maintenance manuals for 318c and engine (also 313b)

in english and french !

what do you need ?

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Old 20th December 2009 | 01:27
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Alouette II POH, M&O manuals

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I am looking for both POH and maintenance & Overhaul manuals for Alouette II, send me an e-mail at [email protected] thanks
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Old 23rd December 2009 | 13:22
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Smile FOM for Allouette

Hallo, please send me FOM for Allouette and you have..., I need ASAP! I can send for you a any Enstrom280...I have FOM, Engine manuals... and more...forFX
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Old 23rd December 2009 | 17:26
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Enstrom Pilot ....i am surprised at you with a name like that saying it is the best first turbine !! What about the 480B ? It costs almost nothing to maintain , v cheap spares and insurance , 5 seats (just) , almost half the fuel burn , longer endurance much faster (115kn)....AND very quiet !!! You can get a 4 to 5 year old one with only 5-700 hrs for under $500k . Best safety record in the industry and very easy to fly ....what more could you want ??
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Old 23rd December 2009 | 23:32
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Hi im currently looking for parts for a 313B ship. Anyone with any....please pm me and we will go from there. Thanks
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Old 24th December 2009 | 09:17
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I'd try the Irish Air Corps who I belive have their remaining seven lying up idle and stored after buying their newer hardward. Most have around the 8000 mark in terms of airframe hours accumulated over a 40 year period.
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Old 24th December 2009 | 11:02
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FOM for Allouette

Please help, I need ASAP of FOM for Allouette2
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Old 24th December 2009 | 12:43
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the irish ones were sold last year [ or earlier this year]

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you sent me pm whats a FOM ?
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Old 25th December 2009 | 13:41
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The Irish machines currently reside in northern France. They are stripped and the owner quoted a 25k price tag for just the airframe
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Old 27th December 2009 | 08:30
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i think he must live in a dream world 25k
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Old 28th December 2009 | 16:27
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nigelH

you are spot on the 480B is a great machine !, shame that it has an allison engine (i heard its easy to spoil your day when starting) and shame only nearly 5 seats, a little sad the limited range and sader still that a 5 yr old one cost 500K (only ?)

agree re safety record and great to fly

alouette has more range, more lift, lower cost of ownerhip, lower purchase cost (£130-£150K), is old, ugly and noisey (and for a turbine slow ish), so not every ones first choice, but they are a turbine for piston costs (with turbine reliability and rugged engineering !)

I guess you pays your money and makes your choice !

what else would be a good first turbine ? whst if one has a thing against the Allison, what other choices ?
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Old 29th December 2009 | 08:59
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Alouettes

Just an aside, in the Air Force we would run our Alouettes on deisel from time to time, watch out for blocked fuel filter and torchigniters though.
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