The venerable Bell 47
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I took the rear plugs out earlier today (NZ time) and they looked pretty awful and wet with moisture.
Althought its been kept hangared it seems the extreme rain we've had this last week must have caused a lot of condensation.
Cleaned them and heated them on a stove to dry them. Then put them back and its back to life again.
Thanks to all who have contributed.
I am in an environment with little knowledge of the 47 since the NZ 47 population was written off in the deer recovery period 20 or more years back.
Thanks again,
OOW
Althought its been kept hangared it seems the extreme rain we've had this last week must have caused a lot of condensation.
Cleaned them and heated them on a stove to dry them. Then put them back and its back to life again.
Thanks to all who have contributed.
I am in an environment with little knowledge of the 47 since the NZ 47 population was written off in the deer recovery period 20 or more years back.
Thanks again,
OOW
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I am in an environment with little knowledge of the 47 since the NZ 47 population was written off in the deer recovery period 20 or more years back.
I don't have a whole lot of Bell 47 time, but I do have some - mostly in the G-2 with the Lycoming 435. Having said that, I never remember using, and never remember any other pilot using the "starter vibrator" switch (or whatever it was labled) on the panel.
the logic of which escaped me unil I finally saved myself that long walk one day, I mean when one has flattened one battery without result how is one going to restore noise by winding, winding, three turns, then brrrrm-nothing, then again, again, again ,again, would you like me to go on?
you may also remember the switch next to it, well on the airfast 3B1's anyway that was labelled manual or auto and referring to the hook status.
usually both were locked wired off.
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Bell 47 acquisition
Considering my options for commercial training. Looking at a half share arrangement with another bloke in a bell 47. Then training in the machine, continuing to use the machine privately to rack up some hours to get ahead of the pack for work.
1/2 the machine cost for a G model is approx 70,000 aus dollars. Engine and transmission times have about 800 hours left and good times on blades.
I'd like some advice from owners/operators of this machine about mechanical reliability of the 47 g models, problems identified that may be typical to them.
I've looked at the basic costs, insurance, feul, oil, not sure what engineers costs are for servicing at the 100 hours, but I'm attempting to break down the costs and see if this is a viable option.
1/2 the machine cost for a G model is approx 70,000 aus dollars. Engine and transmission times have about 800 hours left and good times on blades.
I'd like some advice from owners/operators of this machine about mechanical reliability of the 47 g models, problems identified that may be typical to them.
I've looked at the basic costs, insurance, feul, oil, not sure what engineers costs are for servicing at the 100 hours, but I'm attempting to break down the costs and see if this is a viable option.
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140K sounds a bit cheap.
take your component run out sheets to an engineer for him to give you some indepemdant advice.
Maybe other people know the machine and can advise you accordingly.
knowing the probs of a '47 is a science of its own methinks and cannot be exhaustively rationalised here. please take advise where you can
cheers tet
take your component run out sheets to an engineer for him to give you some indepemdant advice.
Maybe other people know the machine and can advise you accordingly.
knowing the probs of a '47 is a science of its own methinks and cannot be exhaustively rationalised here. please take advise where you can
cheers tet
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Bell-47 Tail Rotor Hub Wanted...
Hi, Chaps and Chapesses.
Anybody got a tail rotor hub/yoke for a Bell-47G-3B-1 sitting around surplus out there - part number 47-641-126-5
I know that this might not be the best place in the forum to be posting this, but hey, ho you never know. Good price paid for one even if it only has a few hours left as it keeping my ship on the ground and the summer's nearly over here...
Cheers
Kevin.
Anybody got a tail rotor hub/yoke for a Bell-47G-3B-1 sitting around surplus out there - part number 47-641-126-5
I know that this might not be the best place in the forum to be posting this, but hey, ho you never know. Good price paid for one even if it only has a few hours left as it keeping my ship on the ground and the summer's nearly over here...
Cheers
Kevin.
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Helicopter Spares Inc. - Bell 47 Helicopter Spares at up to 80% off Factory List Price.
Talk with Jack Carson, he's the owner and been dealing with 47s for years. He's a walking, talking parts catalogue when it comes to 47s.
Good Luck
GV
Talk with Jack Carson, he's the owner and been dealing with 47s for years. He's a walking, talking parts catalogue when it comes to 47s.
Good Luck
GV
Hi Kevin, you might also contact Agrarflug Helilift GmbH & Co. KG - Startseite They have a big stock of spare parts from 47 over 206 to 205, 212 and so on Greetings Flying Bull
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Hi, FB
Have also sent them an email - hopefully I got it correct as my German never really passed the elementry School level... Knew I should have listened in class?
Cheers
Kevin.
Have also sent them an email - hopefully I got it correct as my German never really passed the elementry School level... Knew I should have listened in class?
Cheers
Kevin.
Hi Kevin, they work international - lease helicopters for fire fighting to spain, france and so on, buy and sell helicopters - so they do understand english. greetings Flying Bull
Lifting a Bell 47
Does anyone know the best way to pick up a Bell 47. With the rotars removed is it possible to lift a 47 by crane by the rotar shaft, can you attach a hook eye somewhere.
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Re-install the mast nut, hook a shackle to it and merry christmas. I've also done it with the blades removed and left the head on. I strapped it through the grips and I've also run a strap around the grips which worked well also.
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Well? with apologies once again for grammar and punctuation of hopeless schooling.
The question we are asked, is how to raise a ’47,
Something pretty much already made in Heaven;
You talk of ropes, eye hooks, and common grappling,
Let me attempt to dissuade your line of reasoning;
To your near side there is a throttle of cork, sculptured
With sweat, finesse, long hours of toil and troubles
By many of the rotary now informed as they plied
Their skills in the outback, highlands, or the rank and file.
The engine’s six cylinders all good and true lycoming bred
Will be primed with a few quick rolls, the elixir is fed;
By your thumb the red button, no ordinary button;
A starter of vibrancy and purpose of majestic custom
Once depressed the mags are lit with the switches,
A savage bark, to the well tuned rumble, twitching,
In the brisk morning air, awaiting its master’s desire.
The glow of 'piccaninny daylight' is just beginning
Those struggling to sleep could never be winning.
Now the full 3200 matches the manifold demand
Man and machine are united, as one, in command;
Elevation is rudimentary, the nub of its existence,
Is harmony, perhaps soliloquy of lifted cadence?
Above and way above the surly bonds of earth
No need for a mantle or any kind of girth
Be reverent, the ’47 is there.
Anon
The question we are asked, is how to raise a ’47,
Something pretty much already made in Heaven;
You talk of ropes, eye hooks, and common grappling,
Let me attempt to dissuade your line of reasoning;
To your near side there is a throttle of cork, sculptured
With sweat, finesse, long hours of toil and troubles
By many of the rotary now informed as they plied
Their skills in the outback, highlands, or the rank and file.
The engine’s six cylinders all good and true lycoming bred
Will be primed with a few quick rolls, the elixir is fed;
By your thumb the red button, no ordinary button;
A starter of vibrancy and purpose of majestic custom
Once depressed the mags are lit with the switches,
A savage bark, to the well tuned rumble, twitching,
In the brisk morning air, awaiting its master’s desire.
The glow of 'piccaninny daylight' is just beginning
Those struggling to sleep could never be winning.
Now the full 3200 matches the manifold demand
Man and machine are united, as one, in command;
Elevation is rudimentary, the nub of its existence,
Is harmony, perhaps soliloquy of lifted cadence?
Above and way above the surly bonds of earth
No need for a mantle or any kind of girth
Be reverent, the ’47 is there.
Anon
