Sumburgh SAR Incident?
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angelonawire
Judging by your comments about
"why push it when the normal 24 hr duty is to start at 1pm go home at 9pm on a bleeper and put your feet up and come back in at 7am then knock off at 1pm for 24hrs, nice and cushy..."
You haven't read CAP 371.
I think you will find that the crews are obliged to go home at certain times and then have 24 hours off after a 24 hour duty - it isn't an option its a legal requirement.
RI
Judging by your comments about
"why push it when the normal 24 hr duty is to start at 1pm go home at 9pm on a bleeper and put your feet up and come back in at 7am then knock off at 1pm for 24hrs, nice and cushy..."
You haven't read CAP 371.
I think you will find that the crews are obliged to go home at certain times and then have 24 hours off after a 24 hour duty - it isn't an option its a legal requirement.
RI
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From: North Sea
Interesting thread this one and I’m glad to see that angelonawire has deleted his previous posts.
However, from his last posting it is obvious that despite his claims to the contrary he is extremely bitter and angry about the whole episode. In the circumstances maybe that is understandable.
He was, however, extremely unprofessional to post what he posted on this forum when there are several official routes he could have followed to express his grievances direct even to the CAA had he chosen to do so.
Instead he posted HIS version of what happened that night and acted as prosecutor, judge and jury. He incited a lynch mob mentality towards the pilot with quotes like “ Com’on boys what you think? Let the f**ker stew with it for the rest of his life”. His hatred towards the pilot was pretty horrific and extremely personal. Despite what he had been through he should never have made the remarks he did.
He now appears to be moving his anger towards Bristows by publishing his view of their procedures. I believe the SAR contracts are up for grabs and Bond are putting one of their jigsaw aircraft in Sumburgh.....
Anyway I’m glad he is recovering from the incident and I wish him all success with Bond. I hope he finds his SAR utopia there, but then again the grass is always greener….
However, from his last posting it is obvious that despite his claims to the contrary he is extremely bitter and angry about the whole episode. In the circumstances maybe that is understandable.
He was, however, extremely unprofessional to post what he posted on this forum when there are several official routes he could have followed to express his grievances direct even to the CAA had he chosen to do so.
Instead he posted HIS version of what happened that night and acted as prosecutor, judge and jury. He incited a lynch mob mentality towards the pilot with quotes like “ Com’on boys what you think? Let the f**ker stew with it for the rest of his life”. His hatred towards the pilot was pretty horrific and extremely personal. Despite what he had been through he should never have made the remarks he did.
He now appears to be moving his anger towards Bristows by publishing his view of their procedures. I believe the SAR contracts are up for grabs and Bond are putting one of their jigsaw aircraft in Sumburgh.....
Anyway I’m glad he is recovering from the incident and I wish him all success with Bond. I hope he finds his SAR utopia there, but then again the grass is always greener….
Nigerian In Law
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From: The stool at the end of the bar
Sad. I agree with Mountainman. There is a time and place for everything. And this may not be the right place at the right time. Angelonawire, what do you think now you've (hopefullly) calmed down ?
Best Wishes
NEO
Best Wishes
NEO
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From: UK
I'm closing this thread at Angelonawire's request.
He regrets some things he wrote in the aftermath of the incident, and has asked me to pass on his apologies to all concerned.
Credit to him for being big enough to make the request IMHO, and I intend to respect his wishes.
I think the subject is better left until the result of the investigation into what happened but, if anyone disagrees strongly, feel free to e-mail me saying why you think the thread should be re-opened.
Angel's rather strong comments while still feeling emotional after his ordeal (regardless of whether anyone was to blame) are at least understandable. Comments by some others who rushed into print and made judgments are less understandable.
I've never understood why some pilots are so quick to criticise others even when they don't know all the facts - and I probably never will.
Heliport
He regrets some things he wrote in the aftermath of the incident, and has asked me to pass on his apologies to all concerned.
Credit to him for being big enough to make the request IMHO, and I intend to respect his wishes.
I think the subject is better left until the result of the investigation into what happened but, if anyone disagrees strongly, feel free to e-mail me saying why you think the thread should be re-opened.
Angel's rather strong comments while still feeling emotional after his ordeal (regardless of whether anyone was to blame) are at least understandable. Comments by some others who rushed into print and made judgments are less understandable.
I've never understood why some pilots are so quick to criticise others even when they don't know all the facts - and I probably never will.
Heliport
