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Old 17th Mar 2011, 07:37
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When I was in Donauworth for sim training, the instructor said the 5 bladed rotor is not going anywhere near the new 145 because it took more power without any real benifit in lift. But it was a smooth ride.
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 19:06
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New Eurocopter- EC 145 T2

The newest member of Eurocopter’s helicopter family was formally launched this month with the unveiling of its EC145 T2 – an evolved version of the popular twin-engine EC145 that incorporates new Arriel 2E engines, along with the company’s Fenestron shrouded tail rotor, upgraded main and tail rotor gear boxes, an innovative new digital avionics suite and a 4-axis autopilot.
EC145 T2 debut was at the Heli-Expo 2011 exposition in Orlando, Florida, where Eurocopter also announced launch agreements for a total of 17 helicopters from four international customers, who plan to utilize these rotary-wing aircraft in emergency medical services (EMS), oil and gas operations and business aviation.

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Eurocopter expands its product line with the EC145 T2 helicopter, integrating more powerful engines, a Fenestron tail rotor, new avionics and mission capabilities upgrades - Pilot Magazin
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Old 18th Mar 2011, 19:39
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Its like putting lipstick on a pig........
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Its like putting lipstick on a pig........
No, this is definitely not about lipstick....

It adresses the points which hinder a bigger success of the EC145 in the EMS market compared to the EC-135:
- Insufficent Power
- Open Tail rotor (which is considered almost a no-go for HEMS in many countries in Europe).
- No FADEC

Reasonable move on behalf of EC.

This ship is not primarily aimed at bragging rights at your Golf Club....

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Old 18th Mar 2011, 22:19
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The -C2 cried out for FADEC so thats a good thing.
Replacing the T/R removes the issues with the inclined G/box meshing and Tail shakes/repairs.

All seems good...so far...I dont know what fenestron issues the 135 had/has.
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Old 19th Mar 2011, 00:49
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And here's my shots of the Tango Two at Heli Expo last week, spent time at Bell Helicopter stand to see the unveiling of the 407GX and 407AH so I missed the rollout of the T2









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Old 19th Mar 2011, 22:18
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"..the instructor said the 5 bladed rotor is not going anywhere near the new 145 because it took more power without any real benifit in lift."
With all due respect to your Sim-instructor, that IS a load of bullcrap..
If the 5-bladed rotor has any problem, it is 'being shot down for political reasons'..
But that rotor won't die, it will just reincarnate in a stronger, more viable form
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Old 20th Mar 2011, 10:25
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Was it only last week? Time flies!

Someone, not sure who needs to be congratulated on the quality of work on the EC145T2 mock up I was asked where the serial number was! Not so sure 'works of art' in this sphere have started carrying a s/n just yet..... although '1 of a series of 3' might just catch on and who knows they may get something akin to a BAPC number one day!

BTW the glass cockpit is the same as that from the EC175 [and that part looked 'real' enough as well] - I believe it will not be an option, take it or pay heavily for something else. That option will have an effect on law enforcement use and the TFO/observer will probably have to use the same screen.
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Old 20th Mar 2011, 17:47
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Originally Posted by PANews
Someone, not sure who needs to be congratulated on the quality of work on the EC145T2 mock up I was asked where the serial number was! Not so sure 'works of art' in this sphere have started carrying a s/n just yet..... although '1 of a series of 3' might just catch on and who knows they may get something akin to a BAPC number one day!
I might be wrong, but I have a feeling that EC145 mockup is the same one that was displayed at the Heli Expo 2002 and the ILA in 2004 (see here), but with T2 modifications/alterations added this time around .
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 08:04
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Official presentation flight at Donauwörth 18.March.2011


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Old 30th Mar 2011, 16:35
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Any idea what this is all about :



.... Is it a "Repair" of some sort ????

Didn't seem to be present during the filmed flights ....



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Old 30th Mar 2011, 16:44
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Mounts for some flighttest-sensors or cameras:

Helionline.de

They also flew with different endplates:

Helionline.de

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Old 16th Nov 2011, 16:29
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DRF Luftrettung, Germany signed contract for 25 EC 145 T2

Helicopter manufacturer, aircraft helicopter military, colibri helicopter - Eurocopter, an EADS company

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Old 13th Feb 2012, 17:50
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EC 145 (outside Europe) / UH-72A AEO-TOP ?

All in the title. Thx for answering.
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Old 14th Feb 2012, 19:55
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Devil

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...FILE/H13EU.pdf

http://easa.europa.eu/certification/...3-29112010.pdf

Still no ideas, or you guys just look at FLI needles ?
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Old 14th Feb 2012, 21:59
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JB-319,

You may get more of a response if you made your question in plain English rather than in shorthand and links to documents, expecting Rotorheads to work out just what you are after.

I cannot fathom out your request, and suspect that the lack of response is because others cannot either
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Old 15th Feb 2012, 03:37
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Sorry about that, but i thought AEO TOP would be clear enough...
(All Engines Operative Take Off Power) 5 minutes, the red bar on top of the FLI (10).
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Old 15th Feb 2012, 04:05
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Thanks: but what is it about the AEO TOP that you want to know?
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Old 15th Feb 2012, 04:41
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Max Torque and RPM are different, with same engines. I'm just wondering why.
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