Whats New in West Africa (excluding Nigeria)?
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Whats New in the REAL West Africa?
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West Africa includes many countries, not just NIGERia.
Please feel free to post here as well on any WA related topic. Mama don't have the juice! Yebo!
OffshoreIgor
West Africa includes many countries, not just NIGERia.
Please feel free to post here as well on any WA related topic. Mama don't have the juice! Yebo!
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CHC Pay Scales in West Africa
Greetings all. With pay for Offshore guys on the rise world wide, i would like to know if somebody could help me to get a copy of what pay scales CHC pays in West Africa.
Any help would be great.
Thanks
Any help would be great.
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It's probably because neither Bristow nor CHC have made any announcement about new pay scales as yet, despite CHC pay supposedly being reviewed as from May. Maybe after a few more pilots leave they'll say something - but don't hold your breath 
Do they pay an "Escape and Evasion" bonus if you make it back on yer own after a hijacking?
A certain 'other' company decided that the week I left my tour early (following The Shell CMO signing me off as unfit to work) was leave owed and deducted it accordingly from my records
Then compound that with the fact that by working a week less you have accrued less leave anyway, and I ended up owing more than a week
Needless to say, I managed to redress the balance later.
That year also saw many pilots and engineers being involved in recovering aircraft that had been abandoned in the field following kidnappings (as well as one that was landed on a river bank with a blade delamination). Those individuals were rewarded with a 5000 Naira cash sum. I only got the one lump though, despite recovering my own aircraft and assisting with the recovery of the river bank one! Mind you that was back in the days when 5000 naira was 25 quid, so about 5 days CLA!
Ho Hum!!!
Then compound that with the fact that by working a week less you have accrued less leave anyway, and I ended up owing more than a week Needless to say, I managed to redress the balance later.That year also saw many pilots and engineers being involved in recovering aircraft that had been abandoned in the field following kidnappings (as well as one that was landed on a river bank with a blade delamination). Those individuals were rewarded with a 5000 Naira cash sum. I only got the one lump though, despite recovering my own aircraft and assisting with the recovery of the river bank one! Mind you that was back in the days when 5000 naira was 25 quid, so about 5 days CLA!
Ho Hum!!!
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Trade Pay scales
Guys i have heard that CHC and Bristows are both holding off on pay rises.
I need to get a copy of what pay scales CHC are paying in Africa at the moment so our company can macth it or better it. This is good for us all as when we all hear about another company getting paid more than what we do it helps raise the bar!!!!!!!
Please anyhelp with links or copies of the scales would be gratefull.
Oh Thanks Mama M
I need to get a copy of what pay scales CHC are paying in Africa at the moment so our company can macth it or better it. This is good for us all as when we all hear about another company getting paid more than what we do it helps raise the bar!!!!!!!
Please anyhelp with links or copies of the scales would be gratefull.
Oh Thanks Mama M
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Payscales CHC Nigeria
Hi guys,
these payscales are about 2/3 years old. In the days when Schreiner was running the Africa operations. I do not know if they have raised the money a lot. CHC took over Schreiner so probably also it´s payscales. But I also believe that they pay in Canadian dollars now. Hope that this helps you a little bit and I will try to find a newer document.
Licence CPL € 1.544 ATPL € 1.841
Reduction VFR only € (357)
Type rating (max 3 company aircraft)
<20 seats € 119
220-50 seats € 297
>50 seats € 475
Captaincy (max 3 company aircraft)
<5700 kg € 119
25700-15000 kg € 297
>15000 kg € 475
Total hours each 1000 (max 10000) € 60
Apram seniority each year (max 15) € 60
Function allowance (only one except 9,10,11)
senior pilot/FSO/LTC € 238
check & training captain € 357
managing pilot or TRE € 475
assistant chief pilot € 594
chief pilot RW € 891
chief pilot FW € 1.010
HFD € 1.306
GM € 1.425
deputy MD € 178
IRE allowance € 238
RW allowance € 273
separation allowance each month € 1.456
tour bonus on 3rd anniversary of joining € 5.472
from year 4 on each anniversary of joining € 1.824
pension allowance each month € 91 Kpersonal investment plan 31/12 each year € 1.368
TotalDisability insurance € 90.756
Life insurance € 136.134
these payscales are about 2/3 years old. In the days when Schreiner was running the Africa operations. I do not know if they have raised the money a lot. CHC took over Schreiner so probably also it´s payscales. But I also believe that they pay in Canadian dollars now. Hope that this helps you a little bit and I will try to find a newer document.
Licence CPL € 1.544 ATPL € 1.841
Reduction VFR only € (357)
Type rating (max 3 company aircraft)
<20 seats € 119
220-50 seats € 297
>50 seats € 475
Captaincy (max 3 company aircraft)
<5700 kg € 119
25700-15000 kg € 297
>15000 kg € 475
Total hours each 1000 (max 10000) € 60
Apram seniority each year (max 15) € 60
Function allowance (only one except 9,10,11)
senior pilot/FSO/LTC € 238
check & training captain € 357
managing pilot or TRE € 475
assistant chief pilot € 594
chief pilot RW € 891
chief pilot FW € 1.010
HFD € 1.306
GM € 1.425
deputy MD € 178
IRE allowance € 238
RW allowance € 273
separation allowance each month € 1.456
tour bonus on 3rd anniversary of joining € 5.472
from year 4 on each anniversary of joining € 1.824
pension allowance each month € 91 Kpersonal investment plan 31/12 each year € 1.368
TotalDisability insurance € 90.756
Life insurance € 136.134
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Heliharm,
CHC didn't take over Schreiner/APRAM payscales or pay structure. There are a few ex-Schreiner guys still on the old APRAM scheme, but all new hires are now on CHC pay scheme and many of the old Schreiner guys have now also changed over to CHC. Everyone in CHC is paid in Canadian Dollars.
CHC didn't take over Schreiner/APRAM payscales or pay structure. There are a few ex-Schreiner guys still on the old APRAM scheme, but all new hires are now on CHC pay scheme and many of the old Schreiner guys have now also changed over to CHC. Everyone in CHC is paid in Canadian Dollars.
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It seems the Heli-Malongo pilots are in need for a pay rise already - they have just snapped the contract away from PHI and already in search of better pay and conditions - which is good to see of course.
Chevron/LSG/Sonair in Angola pays US$95,000/yr and crews have to pay a 15% tax in Angola, which leave you with just over US$80,000. No other benefits - nil -zero- finito!
Good luck in Malango Boys!
Keep us posted.
CJ
Chevron/LSG/Sonair in Angola pays US$95,000/yr and crews have to pay a 15% tax in Angola, which leave you with just over US$80,000. No other benefits - nil -zero- finito!
Good luck in Malango Boys!
Keep us posted.
CJ
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Chopper Jog
Heli Malongo is Chevron and Sonangol or Sonair so they have hardly "snatched" the contract from PHI, they have decided to do it themselves due to the compulsory requirement to have a JV with Sonair to be working offshore helicopters where Sonangol is a partner of the Oil Company.
Do you think that Oil companies would would really have Sonair working for them at their rates if there was a genuine choice? CHC and Heli Union only contract through Sonair to oil companies because Sonair effectively has a monopoly due to being the "government" owned company. That's what you have to do to do business in Angola.
Heli Malongo is Chevron and Sonangol or Sonair so they have hardly "snatched" the contract from PHI, they have decided to do it themselves due to the compulsory requirement to have a JV with Sonair to be working offshore helicopters where Sonangol is a partner of the Oil Company.
Do you think that Oil companies would would really have Sonair working for them at their rates if there was a genuine choice? CHC and Heli Union only contract through Sonair to oil companies because Sonair effectively has a monopoly due to being the "government" owned company. That's what you have to do to do business in Angola.
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Hi CJ and Hippo,
Yes both comments are pretty well on the money!!!!!!!
While we are on the subject of money seems to be very hard to get the CHC guys to post of copy of the pay scales here. Not asking for any names. The Heli Malongo Management are very open to matching what others get for equal time in West Africa.
The General feel here is that the folks are very happy for the OLD birds from PHI to go and welcome in the new fast a/c helio's!!!
Yes both comments are pretty well on the money!!!!!!!
While we are on the subject of money seems to be very hard to get the CHC guys to post of copy of the pay scales here. Not asking for any names. The Heli Malongo Management are very open to matching what others get for equal time in West Africa.
The General feel here is that the folks are very happy for the OLD birds from PHI to go and welcome in the new fast a/c helio's!!!
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CHC pay
Generally, if your not working for ACN, then an offshore IFR Captain would be getting 3665/month (level 14 of 14 levels) as well as 209/ per day onsite and then a per diem maybe given too if food isn't provided. Different countries also have different incentive pay ie: hazard/hardship pay that is usually anwheres from 50 -125 /day on site as well
Company also contributes 4% (pathetically low in my estimation
) towards your gracious retirement! (you'll be eating the very best dog-food
)
There is also health and dental coverage as well as short/long term disability.
Training is very good and you are paid your daily rate whilst training.
All numbers in $ CDN
Hope this helps
Company also contributes 4% (pathetically low in my estimation
) towards your gracious retirement! (you'll be eating the very best dog-food )There is also health and dental coverage as well as short/long term disability.
Training is very good and you are paid your daily rate whilst training.
All numbers in $ CDN
Hope this helps
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New scales posted on CHC website today. 4% increase on daily and 4% increase on monthly. Top level IFR Captain $84,000 + Cdn. Not what we were expecting. Usually we all get notification of the increase at the same time, this time its buried in an HR webpage. No mention of additional incentive pay, TRE/TRI, BM allowance.
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Advice Required On Heli Career In West Africa
Greetings People,
i'm a Nigerian in my late 20s interested in pursuing a career as a helo pilot.
at the moment i have just enough funds for my ppl heli in south africa.
what i need to know is
1.am i too old for that already?
2.are there any operators willing to give me my CPL and IR in return for a bond?
your response will be highly welcome
i'm a Nigerian in my late 20s interested in pursuing a career as a helo pilot.
at the moment i have just enough funds for my ppl heli in south africa.
what i need to know is
1.am i too old for that already?
2.are there any operators willing to give me my CPL and IR in return for a bond?
your response will be highly welcome
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HeliRoger
You are lucky since this forum is frequented by many who have an intimate knowledge of the West African helicopter scene. Even the management of a well known Nigerian company called Caverton often post in these forums.
They have offices in Lagos and I am sure that you being local and them being a local company, they would be able to give you lots of advice and would even consider sponsorship in return for a bond arrangement. Such arrangements have been made before with great success in the international arena although I don't have any specific knowledge of how they might work in Nigeria. Shouldn't be any different in my opinion so it maybe worth a try.
Bristow and CHC also have operations in Nigeria and once qualified, they would probably be only too happy to let you join the long queue for a job in Nigeria.
I am sure that Bristow HR would be able to help. Why don't you send them an email. Steve Medlin in the HR is an old friend of mine as well as a friend to many others who frequent this forum. I can help with an introduction if you wish. His email is [email protected]
Good luck and I am sure that you will find no shortage of advice here on this Rotorheads forum.
You are lucky since this forum is frequented by many who have an intimate knowledge of the West African helicopter scene. Even the management of a well known Nigerian company called Caverton often post in these forums.
They have offices in Lagos and I am sure that you being local and them being a local company, they would be able to give you lots of advice and would even consider sponsorship in return for a bond arrangement. Such arrangements have been made before with great success in the international arena although I don't have any specific knowledge of how they might work in Nigeria. Shouldn't be any different in my opinion so it maybe worth a try.
Bristow and CHC also have operations in Nigeria and once qualified, they would probably be only too happy to let you join the long queue for a job in Nigeria.
I am sure that Bristow HR would be able to help. Why don't you send them an email. Steve Medlin in the HR is an old friend of mine as well as a friend to many others who frequent this forum. I can help with an introduction if you wish. His email is [email protected]
Good luck and I am sure that you will find no shortage of advice here on this Rotorheads forum.
