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Old 1st Nov 2001, 00:42
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I know someone near Denbigh in North Wales who has one. Last time I saw him he was looking for somewhere to keep it, since its old home at Chirk Airfield now tends to be used for car boot sales at weekends, so this may be one of the Mold ones mentioned. There was also one recently near Llangollen, but it was up for sale and may have gone by now.
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Old 1st Nov 2001, 11:20
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Whirly, that'll probably be the one I bought.
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Old 1st Nov 2001, 12:57
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The one near Llangollen you mean, Jellycopter? Up in the hills just outside Glyn Ceiriog; the guy's building a Europa too? I live a couple of miles from there and I went to see it. Didn't have the money, don't like fixing things, and don't trust either my own or someone else's self-build skills on something with that many moving parts; but I was interested and just asked the guy if I could come over and have a look. Nice helicopter though; I kind of wondered where it went.
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Old 2nd Nov 2001, 15:38
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Whirly, yes, that's the one. You were right to have your doubts however, big bodges in places. Still, I was aware of those when I bought it and am in the process of fixing them.....slowly! Have had it just over a year and plan to have it airworthy about 12 months from now - finance and wife permitting!!. J.
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Old 6th Nov 2001, 01:36
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Have seen a rotorway exec in the hangar at Hawarden (Chester - I didnt where Hawarden was until I started to fly from there), nice looking machine but Ive yet to see it fly. Do engine runs count?
Is it true they are limited to 10 knot or under winds?
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Old 6th Nov 2001, 01:38
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No! 17kts.

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Old 6th Nov 2001, 01:53
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Still no-one out there prepared to shed light/offer an opinion on the original post re- pitch-up on entry to auto when it 'should' pitch down??? In anticipation....
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Old 22nd Nov 2001, 23:13
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Post France issues Permit to Rotorway Exec kit

From Helicopter News, November 20, 2001.
French aviation officials finally have issued a flight permit to RotorWay's 162F Exec kit helicopter. The approval coincides with the company's first French sale and is the result of a two-year regulatory approval process.
The flight permit allows the owner to fly in French airspace as a certified helicopter. French aviation officials utilized flight regulations already established by Britain's CAA.

They also adopted Britain's practice of incorporating into the regulatory
approval process documented and worldwide experience with an aircraft. This means that, with some minor modifications to meet particular French requirements, the 162F Exec has been accepted as a "proven" helicopter and therefore is permitted to fly, say executives at RotorWay International, Chandler, Arizona.
"I am certain that sales for this proven kit will soon follow," says Yves
Pearcy, owner of Heli Diffusion France, RotorWay's authorized French dealer. "Many customers have been waiting for this development before going ahead with their purchase."
RotorWay sold its 500th 162F Exec (to the Mexican Navy) in October 2000. The company has sales representatives worldwide and is confident that this latest coup presages additional French sales.
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Old 21st Dec 2001, 20:13
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Post hour building in a rotorway exec ?

need to get to 300hrs for an instructor course,is it worth buying a rotorway for the hours,already have cpl but no work around for low-time pilots.
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Old 22nd Dec 2001, 12:16
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Old 22nd Dec 2001, 12:32
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I've got one. No! Too much maintenance and not enough flying.
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Old 22nd Dec 2001, 12:56
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I'm in exactly the same position, and figure what probably makes most sense is to go to Oz for a few weeks - good wx and flying at about half the cost I think.
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Old 22nd Dec 2001, 14:01
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Just to confirm: no one kitbuilt helo doesn't lessen your expenses in rising hours. Especially Rotorway - it is fun to fly, but hell to keep flying (after first 100 hrs).
It's really worth to think to go for a couple of weeks to any other country which has low hour cost - Eastern Europe, for example. Here in Moscow you can fly twin-turbine Mi-2 for only $200/hour and much less - in Rotorway Exec.
No R-22 to the moment but Rotorways flying here are really good and flight instructors are really worth to fly with - if you wish to be an instructor finally.

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Old 22nd Dec 2001, 20:34
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thx for that , looks like i'm off to the states or canada for hourbuilding then !!
18 months ago you could instruct ( and earn buttons) with 200 hrs .now you need 300 the commercial exams and 150 ish hours groundschool thanks jar
how long untill they realise there wont be any new pilots and they change the rules again ?????
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Old 23rd Dec 2001, 02:28
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GyroBeast,

Your link does not work, nyet! Do you have a FAX, Phone, Address, e-mail, or website address that does work? I might be interested in a Mi-2 checkout. How about other types? Anything available? Hind-D or Mi-8?
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Old 23rd Dec 2001, 11:44
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That's the common problem with some US ISP - they don't want to see our server time to time. Try it some more.
Our contacts are:
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my cell (901)-9042796
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We do not have our own Mi-8 nor Mi-24 but there is no problem to have a ride(s) in them for our visitors.

Welcome! I guarantee that at least instruction here is of highest quality, since our instructors aren't ordinar CFI (more by e-mail)

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Old 24th Dec 2001, 14:20
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Drop me an e mail might be able to help wit hour building <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
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Old 7th Apr 2002, 05:36
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Rotorway Factory Ship Collision

NTSB Identification: LAX02LA121

Accident occurred Monday, April 01, 2002 at Chandler, AZ Aircraft:Rotorway Exec 165F, registration: N21901 Injuries: 2 Serious.

This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed.

On April 1, 2002, at 0955 mountain standard time, a Rotorway Exec 165F helicopter, N21901, collided with the ground following a loss of tail rotor drive while in cruise near Chandler, Arizona. The helicopter was owned and operated by Rotorway International, and was on a local area instructional flight. The helicopter sustained substantial damage. The commercial pilot/flight instructor and an airline transport pilot student, who was undergoing transition training in the make and model helicopter, sustained serious injuries. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and no flight plan was filed. The flight departed from Stellar Airpark, Chandler, about 0900.

After the accident, the flight instructor told his company that they lost the tail rotor drive and then collided with the ground and rolled over while attempting a forced landing.

The helicopter was examined on scene by a Federal Aviation Administration airworthiness inspector. He reported that the drive belts were burned and frayed.
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Old 7th Apr 2002, 14:18
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If this could happen on a factory ship where it is assumed that the level of maintenance and inspection are at a very high level then what kind of inspection and maintenance program should the factory recommend to individual owners.
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Old 7th Apr 2002, 16:30
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I love these abiguous titles! Until I discovered the rather unexpected content of this thread the following possibilities crossed my mind:-

What did the factory ship collide with? Another ship? A rock? Did it sink?

Why do Rotorway own a factory ship? Is there more money in whaling than aviation? Or perhaps the Rotorway was based on the factory ship as a spotter?

Or perhaps the Rotorway factory collided with a ship! Now that's a novel concept...Is the Rotorway factory on a barge perhaps?

It could even (rather implausibly) be that there was a three way prang between a Rotorway, a factory and a ship, all at once. Now that I'd love to see on one of those late night police video shows.


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