The one near Llangollen you mean, Jellycopter? Up in the hills just outside Glyn Ceiriog; the guy's building a Europa too? I live a couple of miles from there and I went to see it. Didn't have the money, don't like fixing things, and don't trust either my own or someone else's self-build skills on something with that many moving parts; but I was interested and just asked the guy if I could come over and have a look. Nice helicopter though; I kind of wondered where it went.