Female Helicopter pilots.....
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Glad to say that one of my female students captained the RAF's first all-woman fast jet flight. Another was amongst the first of the RAF's female SAR helicopter pilots.
The latter did very nearly kill me once but I forgave her and we all learned about flying from that.
The latter did very nearly kill me once but I forgave her and we all learned about flying from that.
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Why, what did you do?
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Probably 50% of the women Osprey drivers now in the grade of Captain in Uncle Sam's Misguided Children crossed my path at Exciting Whiting when we were implementing the tiltrotor pipeline....
I can't think of a one of them I would lay odds on appreciating having her photo posted here without her consent..
I can't think of a one of them I would lay odds on appreciating having her photo posted here without her consent..
That said, point taken. Of the 2 I posted, one died in the line of duty, and I copied the picture from her memorial website, and in what I thought was a respectful fashion. The other was of Lynn Tilton...and if you know anything about her at all it's that she does not shy away from ANY publicity.
Regardless, I don't think anything of a prurient nature has been posted, but if anyone doesn't appreciate photos being posted, I know I'll stop. I'm sure everyone else will, too.
So everyone knows--they can post any pictures they might find of me online wherever they want. Well, except for any taken at that campout a few weeks ago...
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What was the story about the fellow who could do everything better than everyone else?
Hi ShyT! Me too (hanging in). 15 months to go.
A few years ago one of the more gnarled winchmen told us front-enders;
"All helicopter pilots are female."
I thought he was referring to our delicate touch and precise hover....
"Nah......you're all a bunch of tarts"
A few years ago one of the more gnarled winchmen told us front-enders;
"All helicopter pilots are female."
I thought he was referring to our delicate touch and precise hover....
"Nah......you're all a bunch of tarts"
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#23 Desiree Horton
High profile in LA. Numerous pics on the web and articles about her in various magazines.
Her website 'The Adventures of Chopper Chick!' includes an interesting account of "how I started and got where I am today."
#28 Capt. Wendy Lawrence
Pic from Wikipedia. Numerous others on the internet.
US Navy helicopter pilot, engineer and NASA astronaut.
#29 Plank Cap’s wife
#32 Stacy Sheard
Numerous photos on the net.
Uses the pic posted by Hell Man as the intro to her Sky Muffin website. ('Sky muffin' is American slang for an attractive female flight attendant.)
Interesting career from Russian Military Intelligence Analyst and then Blackhawk & Huey pilot in the US Army, via EMS, corporate and film work, to her current job as a Production Test Pilot for Sikorsky at the Keystone facility in Pennsylvania.
#37 Maj. Tammy Duckworth
Numerous photographs on the internet
Lost the lower part of both legs when her Black Hawk was hit by a rocket propelled grenade fired by Iraqi forces resisting the occupation. Several awards including the Purple Heart and Air Medal. Ran for Congress in 2006, narrowly losing to her Republican opponent. Declined medical retirement to continue her service in the Illinois Army National Guard
Has just (this month) obtained a fixed-wing license.
#38 Capt. Kimberly Hampton
Numerous photographs on the internet
US Army pilot killed in Iraq in Jan 2004 when her Kiowa Warrior was shot down. First woman military pilot in US history to be shot down and killed as a result of hostile fire. Posthumously awarded the Bronze Star, Air Medal, and Purple Heart.
#41 Talia Santiago
I got to know BlenderPilot well when I was the Rotorheads Mod and he provided the monthly calendar. I respect him and am confident he would not have posted the photographs if the pilot objected.
#52 Sgt. Julie Wiles
Joined the Army as a student nurse, qualified as a pilot in 1997 and selected for the Blue Eagles display team in 2001. Lots of publicity (incl pics) at the time.
#63 Capt. Jennifer Harris
US Marine Corps pilot killed in 2007 when her CH-46 went down during her third tour in Iraq. Numerous photos on the net.
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How many of the women whose photos have been posted here, have given their permission?
High profile in LA. Numerous pics on the web and articles about her in various magazines.
Her website 'The Adventures of Chopper Chick!' includes an interesting account of "how I started and got where I am today."
#28 Capt. Wendy Lawrence
Pic from Wikipedia. Numerous others on the internet.
US Navy helicopter pilot, engineer and NASA astronaut.
#29 Plank Cap’s wife
#32 Stacy Sheard
Numerous photos on the net.
Uses the pic posted by Hell Man as the intro to her Sky Muffin website. ('Sky muffin' is American slang for an attractive female flight attendant.)
Interesting career from Russian Military Intelligence Analyst and then Blackhawk & Huey pilot in the US Army, via EMS, corporate and film work, to her current job as a Production Test Pilot for Sikorsky at the Keystone facility in Pennsylvania.
#37 Maj. Tammy Duckworth
Numerous photographs on the internet
Lost the lower part of both legs when her Black Hawk was hit by a rocket propelled grenade fired by Iraqi forces resisting the occupation. Several awards including the Purple Heart and Air Medal. Ran for Congress in 2006, narrowly losing to her Republican opponent. Declined medical retirement to continue her service in the Illinois Army National Guard
Has just (this month) obtained a fixed-wing license.
#38 Capt. Kimberly Hampton
Numerous photographs on the internet
US Army pilot killed in Iraq in Jan 2004 when her Kiowa Warrior was shot down. First woman military pilot in US history to be shot down and killed as a result of hostile fire. Posthumously awarded the Bronze Star, Air Medal, and Purple Heart.
#41 Talia Santiago
I got to know BlenderPilot well when I was the Rotorheads Mod and he provided the monthly calendar. I respect him and am confident he would not have posted the photographs if the pilot objected.
#52 Sgt. Julie Wiles
Joined the Army as a student nurse, qualified as a pilot in 1997 and selected for the Blue Eagles display team in 2001. Lots of publicity (incl pics) at the time.
#63 Capt. Jennifer Harris
US Marine Corps pilot killed in 2007 when her CH-46 went down during her third tour in Iraq. Numerous photos on the net.
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There are also photos of me on the internet on public sites but I'd be a tad miffed if someone posted one on this thread without asking.
My (and others) objection is that there is a certain faction of ppruners here who are reducing these professional aviators (aviatrices) to the status of pin-up girls without considering whether they wish to achieve that status. Some may well; others may not.
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My (and others) objection is that there is a certain faction of ppruners here who are reducing these professional aviators (aviatrices) to the status of pin-up girls without considering whether they wish to achieve that status. Some may well; others may not.
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the status of pin-up
Whirls, you're never going to win this one. You are up against forces you cant begin to understand!
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You are up against forces you cant begin to understand!
I know.
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I'm very intent on broadening my perspective.
I've been doing exercises and the six pack now looks like a party seven.
I've been doing exercises and the six pack now looks like a party seven.
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There are also photos of me on the internet on public sites but I'd be a tad miffed if someone posted one on this thread without asking
I don't think any were posted in a "pin-up" way. I get how that could be offensive in a "professional" forum.
Bigger picture, I think that this reveals a difference in gender attitudes about privacy and such. Expanding that to a ready room-type environment it brings up an issue that is an elephant in the room. Everyone loves the female pilots...why, she's just "one of the guys"...isn't she cool...she doesn't mind how we swear and tell dick jokes and fart in public...until the invisible line is crossed. SHE decides where the line is, not you, and you don't know where it is in advance.
There are lots of female pilots who will act as if they don't want special treatment, but are the last ones to turn down the profile article in the Marine Corps Times, for example.
I'm not anti-female or anti-feminist. I just think that the fact that there is a "female helicopter pilot" thread and that there's a debate here about posting photos shows that we still have issues going on. If someone started a thread that said,"post pictures of prominent helicopter pilots here..." would we still be talking about privacy issues? Maybe only in regards to the women? If I post a picture of Igor Sikorsky without asking his estate am I objectifying him? How's that different?
Sorry, Igor.
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Originally Posted by ospreydriver
I don't think any were posted in a "pin-up" way. I get how that could be offensive in a "professional" forum.
Now - back to Chopper Chicks!
"This seems to be drifting into a female heli pilot pin-up concern!"
Damn, that would be cool .. maybe we can even come up with an alternative calendar for 2011!
Damn, that would be cool .. maybe we can even come up with an alternative calendar for 2011!
Chopper Totty pics
However, if they looked like the pics so far i am sure i could forgive them for any slight faults in their piloting ability.
You want to know where the invisible line is? I've been telling you for the last few pages but few are listening - that, I can't help.
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ShyT, you sure it's not your elevation that's increasing?
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You want to know where the invisible line is? I've been telling you for the last few pages but few are listening - that, I can't help
Half the fun of aviation is hanging around after flying, shooting the bull, and making smart-ass remarks. Guess I'll have to leave that stuff behind.
I think I'll disengage on this topic, but if it makes you feel better, that Igor Sikorsky is one damn handsome man, don't you think?
Damn....give'em shoes...let'em out of the kitchen...let'em vote....quit beating'em when they get out of line....and this is the thanks we get!
.....and there I was seeing so many of the weaker sex within our ranks.
OH....sorry....wrong kind of "broadening" I guess!
Still love me Whirls?
You mean a male-dominated environment inhabited by dinosaurs who have no intention of broadening their perspective?
OH....sorry....wrong kind of "broadening" I guess!
Still love me Whirls?
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'Course I do Sassy Dahling ... I didn't say "exclusively inhabited"
Smart-ar$ed banter can be enjoyed between all the sexes; not looking past the face (or whereever) to reach the personality is not enjoyed.
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Smart-ar$ed banter can be enjoyed between all the sexes; not looking past the face (or whereever) to reach the personality is not enjoyed.
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