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Airtoday,
So sorry about my spelling I apologise sir.
But if I might add kind sir me not able to spell some of the words you have been using here does not in anyway make mine that bad and so let me for once say what I want to say....
AIRTODAY FOR ALL IT'S WORTH GO TO HELL[COLOR=skyblue]
Yes I am a Nigerian, do you have any problem with that, if so then come on man just make it clear or do you need to start another thread on that one, maybe some of your friends could help you with a topic for that one.
Last night I took time to print some of the postings on this particular thread to share with the guys (yes Nigerians, most of them avoid pprune like the plague because of the negative remarks made here about Nigeria ) in the crew lounge this morning and at the end of the day just 10mins ago actually some of us decided to print out the whole thing and fix it on the wall so that some of our so called friends
here with us in Nigeria get to realise that we do log in to pprune and read their posts, just need to get the chief in on it and I think it can be done!
To all the guys who sent me emails about this thread well what can I say but just thank you.
Zazoo
Ahoy ARSETODAY oops sorry its my spelling again I meant AIRTODAY its time for spelling check here if your not too busy.
So sorry about my spelling I apologise sir.
But if I might add kind sir me not able to spell some of the words you have been using here does not in anyway make mine that bad and so let me for once say what I want to say....
AIRTODAY FOR ALL IT'S WORTH GO TO HELL[COLOR=skyblue]
Yes I am a Nigerian, do you have any problem with that, if so then come on man just make it clear or do you need to start another thread on that one, maybe some of your friends could help you with a topic for that one.
Last night I took time to print some of the postings on this particular thread to share with the guys (yes Nigerians, most of them avoid pprune like the plague because of the negative remarks made here about Nigeria ) in the crew lounge this morning and at the end of the day just 10mins ago actually some of us decided to print out the whole thing and fix it on the wall so that some of our so called friends
here with us in Nigeria get to realise that we do log in to pprune and read their posts, just need to get the chief in on it and I think it can be done!To all the guys who sent me emails about this thread well what can I say but just thank you.
Zazoo
Ahoy ARSETODAY oops sorry its my spelling again I meant AIRTODAY its time for spelling check here if your not too busy.
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You say,
"Well Me I am here in Nigeria and also in the thick of it all and guess what I am still waitting to be robbed or kidnapped and likewise with the rest of my colleagues here",
but that's also not a very balanced view is it - because several of your fellow Nigerian aviators, either in Bristow or ACN have been hijacked, and robbed. Certainly one Nigerian pilot was murdered in his house in Ikeja GRA recently. Probably about an equal number of Nigerian and non-Nigerian pilots have been hijacked and a lot more Nigerian pilots than non-Nigerian pilots have been robbed and murdered. I have worked in Nigeria on and off for more than 25 years and I love the place and most of the people! But I also am very aware of the dangers of being there. Several of my friends (both aviators and non-aviators) have been hijacked and murdered in the last few years. However, I know the risks and am prepared to put up with them because most of the flying there is enjoyable and the majority of the people are friendly, outgoing and hospitable.
Airtoday
Your quote about learning the language and being Nigerian is both unecessary and offensive (and quite probably racist). Many of the contributors to this forum do not have English as their first language and even if they do, there is no spell-checker here and most of us are pretty awful typists. It's not a grammatical forum but a place for people to contribute their views on things rotary, so as long as the post is understandable what the heck does it matter? Could you write a decent posting here in Igbo?
I suspect you are one of those people who are constantly moaning about Nigeria, being nice to your colleagues' faces but saying unpleasant things behind their backs. If you don't like it then why don't you leave? After all if you think it's the **sehole of the world and you chose to stay there maybe it means you are a t**d!!
You say,
"Well Me I am here in Nigeria and also in the thick of it all and guess what I am still waitting to be robbed or kidnapped and likewise with the rest of my colleagues here",
but that's also not a very balanced view is it - because several of your fellow Nigerian aviators, either in Bristow or ACN have been hijacked, and robbed. Certainly one Nigerian pilot was murdered in his house in Ikeja GRA recently. Probably about an equal number of Nigerian and non-Nigerian pilots have been hijacked and a lot more Nigerian pilots than non-Nigerian pilots have been robbed and murdered. I have worked in Nigeria on and off for more than 25 years and I love the place and most of the people! But I also am very aware of the dangers of being there. Several of my friends (both aviators and non-aviators) have been hijacked and murdered in the last few years. However, I know the risks and am prepared to put up with them because most of the flying there is enjoyable and the majority of the people are friendly, outgoing and hospitable.
Airtoday
Your quote about learning the language and being Nigerian is both unecessary and offensive (and quite probably racist). Many of the contributors to this forum do not have English as their first language and even if they do, there is no spell-checker here and most of us are pretty awful typists. It's not a grammatical forum but a place for people to contribute their views on things rotary, so as long as the post is understandable what the heck does it matter? Could you write a decent posting here in Igbo?
I suspect you are one of those people who are constantly moaning about Nigeria, being nice to your colleagues' faces but saying unpleasant things behind their backs. If you don't like it then why don't you leave? After all if you think it's the **sehole of the world and you chose to stay there maybe it means you are a t**d!!
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Because it's always warm, the sun shines every day, most of the people are friendly and the beer's cheap!! As for the rest of the stuff - you can either take it or not.
I don't like snow, ice, deep fried meat pies, whisky chasers or the haar so I don't fly in the North Sea. If I chose to go and stay there and didn't like it, I'd walk like a man, not whinge like a cur.
I don't like snow, ice, deep fried meat pies, whisky chasers or the haar so I don't fly in the North Sea. If I chose to go and stay there and didn't like it, I'd walk like a man, not whinge like a cur.
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Hi Zazoo and Tropicopter
No offence meant on a personal (and certainly not) racist level. Some of my best friends are Nigerian.
At the end of your last thread though Zazoo I think you meant you're (as in a shortened form of you are) not as in my fifth word of this sentence.
Also Tropicopter it should not be necessary to spell unnecessary incorrectly. Or to start a sentence, let alone a paragraph, with the word "but" in upper or lower case.
It remains, though, the arsehole of the world.
No offence meant on a personal (and certainly not) racist level. Some of my best friends are Nigerian.
At the end of your last thread though Zazoo I think you meant you're (as in a shortened form of you are) not as in my fifth word of this sentence.
Also Tropicopter it should not be necessary to spell unnecessary incorrectly. Or to start a sentence, let alone a paragraph, with the word "but" in upper or lower case.
It remains, though, the arsehole of the world.
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SASless,
No disrespect to you guys in the rotary wing. I understand where you coming from, at the same time learning something new about the working conditions you guys go thru. Personally, I try giving any pilot or engineers a ride when I can. But as you know some of our companies can be, you know what. I appreciate your educating us at the same time I believe we can build a comraderie out of this. BUt unfortunately, Mr Air whatever's post doesn't deal with the problem. If he is dissatisfied, let him comment on Bristow not the nigerian nation. Nigeria has nothing to do with his being treat by Bristow in a shoddy manner. Anyway, enough of that, I hope maturity will prevail.
No disrespect to you guys in the rotary wing. I understand where you coming from, at the same time learning something new about the working conditions you guys go thru. Personally, I try giving any pilot or engineers a ride when I can. But as you know some of our companies can be, you know what. I appreciate your educating us at the same time I believe we can build a comraderie out of this. BUt unfortunately, Mr Air whatever's post doesn't deal with the problem. If he is dissatisfied, let him comment on Bristow not the nigerian nation. Nigeria has nothing to do with his being treat by Bristow in a shoddy manner. Anyway, enough of that, I hope maturity will prevail.
The truth of the matter is that there are very many fine Nigerians who also suffer from the chaos that goes on within that country. As in any situation where foreigners are heavily engaged in work there is bound to be some resentment of them by the local guys. I can easily accept Nigerians too can be proud of their country and their people. That being said, they must also admit to themselves that the reality of the situation is that the current corruption, inter-tribal clashes, disintergration of the police and courts can not be a positive influence on the future of the country or its people.
It does not matter if you are robbed, murdered, or assaulted in Dallas, Lagos, or London....the result is the same. The point that in Nigeria your chances of being victimized is greater is factually correct. The statement that several of my friends have been murdered or whatever and because I don't like snow and ice...thus I prefer Nigeria ......well, now that is quite an interesting statement! Time for a reality check here I think.....and that statement does not pass the BS check.
My last Copilot was writing his doctorate's thesis on corruption in Nigeria....I joked with him that the condensed version would run to about 4,000 volumes. He was focusing upon corruption in relief organizations and I am sure it will be a very interesting paper when submitted to Oxford. I learned a lot from talking to him.
It does not matter if you are robbed, murdered, or assaulted in Dallas, Lagos, or London....the result is the same. The point that in Nigeria your chances of being victimized is greater is factually correct. The statement that several of my friends have been murdered or whatever and because I don't like snow and ice...thus I prefer Nigeria ......well, now that is quite an interesting statement! Time for a reality check here I think.....and that statement does not pass the BS check.
My last Copilot was writing his doctorate's thesis on corruption in Nigeria....I joked with him that the condensed version would run to about 4,000 volumes. He was focusing upon corruption in relief organizations and I am sure it will be a very interesting paper when submitted to Oxford. I learned a lot from talking to him.
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Airtoday,
The spelling of unnecessary was due to the aforementioned poor typing ability and lack of spell checker to help with this. If you would actually care to read my post you would discover that I have neither started a sentence nor a paragraph with the word 'but' in lower case. I deliberately left a gap after my comma to make a (dramatic) space to highlight what ZAZOO had posted. If you want to be nitpicking about spelling and grammar maybe you should cast your jaundiced eye back over your own previous posts on this thread.......or maybe all your errors were also done to make a particular point.
I'm sure that if you were to make yourself known to ZAZOO then you'd see if some of your 'best friends' really are Nigerian!
The spelling of unnecessary was due to the aforementioned poor typing ability and lack of spell checker to help with this. If you would actually care to read my post you would discover that I have neither started a sentence nor a paragraph with the word 'but' in lower case. I deliberately left a gap after my comma to make a (dramatic) space to highlight what ZAZOO had posted. If you want to be nitpicking about spelling and grammar maybe you should cast your jaundiced eye back over your own previous posts on this thread.......or maybe all your errors were also done to make a particular point.
I'm sure that if you were to make yourself known to ZAZOO then you'd see if some of your 'best friends' really are Nigerian!
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SASless,
I didn't actually say 'because I don't like snow and ice...thus I prefer Nigeria'. I just said that amongst the reasons to go there are that it's warm, the sun shines every day, etc. I took my own advice about both places and left. Sounds like you did the same.
I didn't actually say 'because I don't like snow and ice...thus I prefer Nigeria'. I just said that amongst the reasons to go there are that it's warm, the sun shines every day, etc. I took my own advice about both places and left. Sounds like you did the same.
Possibly leading to a new or previous thread:
Why do seasoned helo pilots actually volunteer to operate in various hell holes...out there. Worse still (and irresponsible in my opinion) why do they subject their families/partners to it also
You'd think they would be equipped (professionally) to pick from a variety of more suitable jobs/areas.
If countries like this can't resolve their own internal affairs, why should outsiders get hurt/disaffected trying to help them???
tick, tick, tick, tick.....................
Why do seasoned helo pilots actually volunteer to operate in various hell holes...out there. Worse still (and irresponsible in my opinion) why do they subject their families/partners to it also
You'd think they would be equipped (professionally) to pick from a variety of more suitable jobs/areas.
If countries like this can't resolve their own internal affairs, why should outsiders get hurt/disaffected trying to help them???
tick, tick, tick, tick.....................
As a very dear friend once said while taking in the scenic sights of the main road into the Shell Camp in Warri, Nigeria..... sipping on lukewarm Heinies....with sweat rolling down our noses....and flies buzzing around the newest meat in the area....."helicopter pilots are people who like to live where the road ends....". He is so correct....think back to your helicopter career, particularly if you have done more than a few bush tours.....sometimes the more isolated the location, the more enjoyable the flying. It at least provides one with hard to believe stories to tell at the corner pub.
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Airtoday.
If you don't have an arsehole, you can't s**t. If you can't s**t, you die.
Therefore it is very important to have an arsehole.
PS. Spell check required.
If you don't have an arsehole, you can't s**t. If you can't s**t, you die.
Therefore it is very important to have an arsehole.
PS. Spell check required.
Just received an email from a friend in Nigeria who confirms the Nigerian government has made the decision to bar civilian operators from the NAF Base in Port Harcourt.
I wonder how that has altered the plans of ACN and Bristow....bet that has thrown a real monkey wrench into their ops.....will it be back to the Shell Heliport with insufficient reject area for the 155's or over to the PHC International Airport now? Lets think what that means for commuting distances and times for the crews....and choices of dining establishments for lunch breaks.....I guess you can always run home for lunch or hit a corner chicken stand!
I wonder how that has altered the plans of ACN and Bristow....bet that has thrown a real monkey wrench into their ops.....will it be back to the Shell Heliport with insufficient reject area for the 155's or over to the PHC International Airport now? Lets think what that means for commuting distances and times for the crews....and choices of dining establishments for lunch breaks.....I guess you can always run home for lunch or hit a corner chicken stand!
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Airtoday,
I know a man who does a good line in bulk loo paper supplies!
It's certainly been an interesting thread which has attracted a huge number of views. So what next? How about one from SASless on dusty locations or one from northerly latitudes about the joys of operating helicopters in those areas?
I know a man who does a good line in bulk loo paper supplies!
It's certainly been an interesting thread which has attracted a huge number of views. So what next? How about one from SASless on dusty locations or one from northerly latitudes about the joys of operating helicopters in those areas?
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You don't like the likes of me staying in the country. Which country would that be then - yours or mine? As you know nothing about me any more than you seem to about Nigeria ("I've been there twice". "Some of my best friends are Nigerians") I'll, treat your remarks the same as your views of Nigeria. You exhibit all the typical attitudes of many of the bigoted racists who visit Nigeria briefly and feel this gives you the right to condemn the country and its people as all being typical of the (albeit significant) number of rogues who give it a bad name overseas. You're probably one of those people who sits airing all sorts of views just like you do here in public only with other like-minded people in your crewroom at QIT or wherever, but then goes very quiet whenever a Nigerian pilot walks in. I'm amazed you bother to stay. Try airing your views in public a bit more to ordinary Nigerians and see what they have to say.
You don't like the likes of me staying in the country. Which country would that be then - yours or mine? As you know nothing about me any more than you seem to about Nigeria ("I've been there twice". "Some of my best friends are Nigerians") I'll, treat your remarks the same as your views of Nigeria. You exhibit all the typical attitudes of many of the bigoted racists who visit Nigeria briefly and feel this gives you the right to condemn the country and its people as all being typical of the (albeit significant) number of rogues who give it a bad name overseas. You're probably one of those people who sits airing all sorts of views just like you do here in public only with other like-minded people in your crewroom at QIT or wherever, but then goes very quiet whenever a Nigerian pilot walks in. I'm amazed you bother to stay. Try airing your views in public a bit more to ordinary Nigerians and see what they have to say.
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To TomBola
I have nothing to say bad about your country except it is a very bad country.
The sooner you all accept that and try to change it you will have a chance in the world.
Why don't all you good Nigerians try?
The sooner you all accept that and try to change it you will have a chance in the world.
Why don't all you good Nigerians try?
On a slight tangent, but I hate to see stories get in the way of good facts....
".. the sun shines every day..."; I think that is stretching it a bit far, especially when you refer to the QIT with the separate 'micro-climate' that exists in that corner of the gulf during the raining season.
Please carry on...
".. the sun shines every day..."; I think that is stretching it a bit far, especially when you refer to the QIT with the separate 'micro-climate' that exists in that corner of the gulf during the raining season.
Please carry on...