Sikorsky S-92: From Design to Operations
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S-92 Question
Nick I have had a number of emails from people that have flown the S-92 and they have serious reservations about the vibration levels in the aircraft. I have pasted part of an email I received.
Can you give me some feedback from your side on this one.
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The S-92 is not ready for the market in its present state. The vibrations are much higher than may be expected from a state-of-the-art product. The displays, Rockwell Collins ProLine, are worse than expected also and inferior to the Sextant displays you`ll find in the Super Puma Mk II today.
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I guess the best way to answer this is to not, but I am not that smart. It is like answering "When did you stop beating your wife?" Actually, I haven't stopped beating my wife, at least to the remote control.... ;-)
There has been plenty of positive comments written about the S-92, I won't quote all those who find it smooth, powerful, fast and agile. Pprune would balk at the number of lines consumed were I to post them all.
As to the market fitness, those who have flown the machine generally are very positive about it, and some are so positive they actually buy it. More buy it than the Brand X mentioned, which leads me to think that the market is finding it quite fine, actually.
The displays are quite a bit more capable than those in the other brand mentioned, I think. They are not ProLine at all.
Prospective buyers like the performance and find that it has about a ton more payload than brand x (who have grown their gross weight twice since the S-92 was introduced, and still fall far short). The economics are great (and backed by a Total Assurance Package - a whole aircraft hourly rate for maintenance). The safety features are a generation ahead of the others (flaw tolerance alone is worth crowing about, where an S-92 can take a .040" pit or gouge on any critical part in any critical location for at least 1250 hours without allowing a crack to form.) The crashworthiness is a real factor, where the fuselage, landing gear and the stroking seats are a generation ahead of brand X (who offers some of these features if pressed, but has yet to even design them let alone try to certify them. Watch the productivity tumble when these features are added to the already lesser payoad!
All this being said, let the games continue, as they will. The market will decide.
There has been plenty of positive comments written about the S-92, I won't quote all those who find it smooth, powerful, fast and agile. Pprune would balk at the number of lines consumed were I to post them all.
As to the market fitness, those who have flown the machine generally are very positive about it, and some are so positive they actually buy it. More buy it than the Brand X mentioned, which leads me to think that the market is finding it quite fine, actually.
The displays are quite a bit more capable than those in the other brand mentioned, I think. They are not ProLine at all.
Prospective buyers like the performance and find that it has about a ton more payload than brand x (who have grown their gross weight twice since the S-92 was introduced, and still fall far short). The economics are great (and backed by a Total Assurance Package - a whole aircraft hourly rate for maintenance). The safety features are a generation ahead of the others (flaw tolerance alone is worth crowing about, where an S-92 can take a .040" pit or gouge on any critical part in any critical location for at least 1250 hours without allowing a crack to form.) The crashworthiness is a real factor, where the fuselage, landing gear and the stroking seats are a generation ahead of brand X (who offers some of these features if pressed, but has yet to even design them let alone try to certify them. Watch the productivity tumble when these features are added to the already lesser payoad!
All this being said, let the games continue, as they will. The market will decide.
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Nick - Thanks for a great response. Info wasnt meant to offend, just trying to get info from both sides for a balanced view. Appreciate it.
By the way you shouldnt mention "Stroking Seats" here as many of the outback Aussie guys might take it the wrong way and get excited
By the way you shouldnt mention "Stroking Seats" here as many of the outback Aussie guys might take it the wrong way and get excited
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S92 / US(EH)101 OEI Performance
Just wondering what kind of numbers Sikorsky and the Agusta/Westland team can put up for OEI performance. It seems that neither companies tech publications on their website list OEI Rate of Climb or OEI ceiling.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks!
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks!
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Here are some great web sites with lots of data:
http://www.prowax.com/1prod_bulls/s92pb.html
http://www.shokos.com/EH-101.htm
http://www.prowax.com/1prod_bulls/s92pb.html
http://www.shokos.com/EH-101.htm
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S-92 deliveries....late??
By now, PHI should have their S-92 but rumor has it that it is still in Connecticut and hasn't even left the factory in Bridgeport yet. Can anyone confirm? Heard from someone that the second ship (corporate I think?) is also running very late and Air Harrods who will be managing it are delaying pilot training courses.
Anyone have any updates on when the 92 will be operating?
HH
Anyone have any updates on when the 92 will be operating?
HH
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Rumor is that Sikorsky hooked it to a hydraulics mule and activated the hydraulics with the flight controls disconnected, or some such, and repairs will take some months. Why it was back there, when there were hundreds of pictures released of the highly-publicized turnover to PHI, is anybody's guess.
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Hmm, Air Harrods, eh? Who will be the owner? Should we presume the boss himself - aka "The Egyptian Grocer" as a certain infamous ex-politician and his wife refer to him as...
No doubt that is why the S92 demo spent a lot of time at Stansted when went over to Europe last Autumn (for Helitech, demos, etc)
No doubt that is why the S92 demo spent a lot of time at Stansted when went over to Europe last Autumn (for Helitech, demos, etc)
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PPHeli- No its not for Mohammed, its for another private owner. You will have to wait and see, no telling anyone Nick
I spoke to Jeff Pino at Heli Expo and he was saying that the aircraft was trucked to Heli Expo for the ceremonial delivery but that it was always going to go back to the factory for some more work to be done on it. Obviously once the work is done it will be delivered. If I spent that much on a new helo I would want to make sure it was 100% before I took delivery of it.
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I spoke to Jeff Pino at Heli Expo and he was saying that the aircraft was trucked to Heli Expo for the ceremonial delivery but that it was always going to go back to the factory for some more work to be done on it. Obviously once the work is done it will be delivered. If I spent that much on a new helo I would want to make sure it was 100% before I took delivery of it.
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Another first for the S-92
News from the annual FAA/JAA/EASA meeting:
The 'Lappos S-92' (aka the Sikorsky S-92) has become the first helicopter to be certified by EASA/JAA to the latest safety standards. EASA made the formal certificate presentation in Philadelphia on Tuesday at the annual FAA/JAA/EASA meeting.
The S-92 is the first, and so far only, helicopter certified by the FAA to FAR Part 29 Transport Rotorcraft, Amendment 47, the latest U.S. safety regulations.
Sikorsky aims to obtain Transport Canada approval later this summer.
Following successful tests behind a CH-47 icing tanker earlier this year, the concluding aspects of full icing certification will occur later this year when regulatory agencies fly the S-92 for final approval in known icing.
Production deliveries begin this summer, with 12 aircraft planned for delivery this year. Training will be at FlightSafety International, West Palm Beach, where the S-92 simulator is on track for FAA Level D certification in July.
Sikorsky is implementing systems to capture and use data originating on the first operational aircraft. Combined data from HUMS, bearing monitors, maintenance data computers, and maintenance management systems will electronically flow to Sikorsky for real-time analysis and action.
Looks like all that hard work is paying off Nick.
Tudor
The 'Lappos S-92' (aka the Sikorsky S-92) has become the first helicopter to be certified by EASA/JAA to the latest safety standards. EASA made the formal certificate presentation in Philadelphia on Tuesday at the annual FAA/JAA/EASA meeting.
The S-92 is the first, and so far only, helicopter certified by the FAA to FAR Part 29 Transport Rotorcraft, Amendment 47, the latest U.S. safety regulations.
Sikorsky aims to obtain Transport Canada approval later this summer.
Following successful tests behind a CH-47 icing tanker earlier this year, the concluding aspects of full icing certification will occur later this year when regulatory agencies fly the S-92 for final approval in known icing.
Production deliveries begin this summer, with 12 aircraft planned for delivery this year. Training will be at FlightSafety International, West Palm Beach, where the S-92 simulator is on track for FAA Level D certification in July.
Sikorsky is implementing systems to capture and use data originating on the first operational aircraft. Combined data from HUMS, bearing monitors, maintenance data computers, and maintenance management systems will electronically flow to Sikorsky for real-time analysis and action.
Looks like all that hard work is paying off Nick.
Tudor
S-92 my hind end! Now who would want to fly the latest technology....certified for everything....carrys bags of bags and bags of gas...flys hands off...likes ice...hovers on one donk....looks cool....heck....how's that supposed to go over with the boys? Not to mention that extra wide cockpit designed around Nick's parameters....crike's sakes...if he had his wallet in his hip pocket, I bet us narrow bodies could square dance side by side in the thing! If Nick wasn't such a Teetotaller there would even be a wet bar in the thing I wager! Next thing you know...the President will be wanting one of the things....
I can't wait to hear how the S-92 does in the first year or two of service. Luvverley!
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Sikorsky S92
Can someone please provide me with some info on this type? It's not one I've come across before, and I would like to know:
MAUW
Wake vortex cat.
Rotor diameter
Wheels/skids???
Overall length.
A piccy would be helpful!!
Cheers in advance,
Foxy
MAUW
Wake vortex cat.
Rotor diameter
Wheels/skids???
Overall length.
A piccy would be helpful!!
Cheers in advance,
Foxy
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Sikorsky S-92
FoxyLoxy
Here's a couple of threads to give you a head start.
http://www.sikorsky.com/details/0,3036,CLI1_DIV69_ETI890,00.html
http://www.sikorsky.com/file/popup/0,3038,827,00.pdf
HTH
F Foxy
Here's a couple of threads to give you a head start.
http://www.sikorsky.com/details/0,3036,CLI1_DIV69_ETI890,00.html
http://www.sikorsky.com/file/popup/0,3038,827,00.pdf
HTH
F Foxy