Cattle Mustering incl Training, Job Prospects (!) etc etc
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Avoid Mike Becker Helicopters. At any and all costs. Do a search on pprune and see why. If you are planning on flying in Oz then consider a decent operator like Blue Tongue, Chopperline or HTT. (You need 100 hours PIC and low level training before you can do your 10 hours mustering endorsement)
That aside with no cattle experience your chances of getting a mustering job are somewhere between slim and non existant. And it is most definately NOT an hour building option.
Save up 6k and go to the US. And take your girlfriend to Disneyland.
Ewe Turn
That aside with no cattle experience your chances of getting a mustering job are somewhere between slim and non existant. And it is most definately NOT an hour building option.
Save up 6k and go to the US. And take your girlfriend to Disneyland.
Ewe Turn
Well said Ewe Turn.If you want to go mustering just to build hours, dont even bother.You need some stock experience on the ground before you even get in a machine.Have fun at Disneyland Rotervation!
Becker Helicopters is the way to go for fair dinkum mustering training. "Beware of imitations."
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Ummm, John A, haven't we done the Becker thing to death a year or so ago? Two postings in three days is a bit pushy, and has all the authority of a Jack Russell on a phone book.
No prizes for where I stole that metaphor...
No prizes for where I stole that metaphor...
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The person who posts as John Abersynth has always tried to promote the Becker school - I've deleted loads of his posts over the past couple of years.
I don't know why he bothers. Someone always helpfully suggests potential students should search for other comments posted in this forum about that particular school and, as the posts above show, his 'recommendations' have no credibility.
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I don't know why he bothers. Someone always helpfully suggests potential students should search for other comments posted in this forum about that particular school and, as the posts above show, his 'recommendations' have no credibility.
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Mustering Pilot Wanted - Lower Kimberley
Large Northern WA cattle station with new 300cbi is looking for a mustering pilot. Preferably a single bloke with 500 hours plus to come onboard full time. Although, if you have been a 'Bovine Displacement Technician' in a previous life and would like to come up and fly this little honey for a month or two as a contractor, give us a call. The right person will be well remunerated and the hours are good. If this position would suit you or someone you know, PM me and I'll let you have the contact numbers.
If you are not entitled to work in Australia or you don't have the 500 hrs there's probably no point PM'ing me............but good luck with your career anyhow.
If you are not entitled to work in Australia or you don't have the 500 hrs there's probably no point PM'ing me............but good luck with your career anyhow.
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Mustering in Australia
I'm a 700+ hours pilot back home in Europe wondering if anyone know how difficult it is to get a mustering job in Australia. Do they only take on people who has worked as ground crew, who know the ropes? Maybe getting a work permit is the biggest problem? I already have an australian CPL-H and I miss the low-flying 
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If you've heard it all before and are still prepared to do it, good luck, you'll need it.
Before you fly it, have a good look at it's records and see if you think they match the reality.
Consider what you're doing, where you're doing it and your liability should anything go wrong - and I don't mean your health after a bad accident, you'll be stuffed out there anyway, but how about about damaging the machine or moderately injuring yourself? How soon will the board & lodgings disappear?
Sounds like a great deal - so long as everything goes smoothly. Have you wondered why this might be offered to somebody who's not even in country when a quick look at these forums will see dozens of people around the traps who would jump at it if it was any good.
Try Canada, you'll get paid, the boarding's better and you'll be able to afford the bus fare outta there if it doesn't work out.
Before you fly it, have a good look at it's records and see if you think they match the reality.
Consider what you're doing, where you're doing it and your liability should anything go wrong - and I don't mean your health after a bad accident, you'll be stuffed out there anyway, but how about about damaging the machine or moderately injuring yourself? How soon will the board & lodgings disappear?
Sounds like a great deal - so long as everything goes smoothly. Have you wondered why this might be offered to somebody who's not even in country when a quick look at these forums will see dozens of people around the traps who would jump at it if it was any good.
Try Canada, you'll get paid, the boarding's better and you'll be able to afford the bus fare outta there if it doesn't work out.
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funny ,mike becker has never mustered a cow in his life .he worked for john armstrong as a pilot out at the katherine gorge, HE HAS NEVER worked for heli muster either , he may have flown in to get johns armstrong Kh4 serviced there , so forget about that john abersynth
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Maybe, if you hear it one more time, it might sink in...
I was in exactly the same position as you, a few years ago.
If you go over to Oz, behave like a Commercial Pilot. That means don't offer to work for free, as all you are doing is undermining all the other Pilots around the country that are trying to get that all-important first job.
It's hard enough, as a Kiwi, trying to build up contacts in Oz.
There have been some guys go over with the attitude that their sh_t doesn't stink and Oz owes them a living. (They just make it even harder for the guys like yourself, that follow later.)
This might sound corny, but try to be the best "Ambassador" for N.Z. that you can... (Keep your nose clean, have a good work ethic, etc.)
The helicopter industry in Oz is so small, word will soon get around if you are a tosser! Your whole career will depend on your reputation.
The best thing you can do is knock on doors, which means buy yourself a cheap stationwagon, and then drive around the country. Don't waste your time posting resumes'.
Good Luck...
D.D.
I was in exactly the same position as you, a few years ago.
If you go over to Oz, behave like a Commercial Pilot. That means don't offer to work for free, as all you are doing is undermining all the other Pilots around the country that are trying to get that all-important first job.
It's hard enough, as a Kiwi, trying to build up contacts in Oz.
There have been some guys go over with the attitude that their sh_t doesn't stink and Oz owes them a living. (They just make it even harder for the guys like yourself, that follow later.)
This might sound corny, but try to be the best "Ambassador" for N.Z. that you can... (Keep your nose clean, have a good work ethic, etc.)
The helicopter industry in Oz is so small, word will soon get around if you are a tosser! Your whole career will depend on your reputation.
The best thing you can do is knock on doors, which means buy yourself a cheap stationwagon, and then drive around the country. Don't waste your time posting resumes'.
Good Luck...
D.D.
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Cattle mustering season is nearly upon us in WA in Murchison/Gascoyne/Pilbara then Kimberleys. Do a ring around, but no harm in starting with Fitzroy Helicopters.
Hope you have done some cattle work on the ground first.... always handy.
Cattle mustering season is nearly upon us in WA in Murchison/Gascoyne/Pilbara then Kimberleys. Do a ring around, but no harm in starting with Fitzroy Helicopters.
Hope you have done some cattle work on the ground first.... always handy.
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If ever I saw a quality post then this is it.
Especially the last bit, a real confidence builder. you could always pick up a job at pretty much ANY of the major centres that you will drive through. Most helicopter companies will help in that regard esp if you follow DD's advice. Networking is the key.
Working odd jobs for enough to get a bit of petrol money etc. a few months or a couple of years is nothing in the big scene.
This might sound corny, but try to be the best "Ambassador" for N.Z. that you can... (Keep your nose clean, have a good work ethic, etc.)
The helicopter industry in Oz is so small, word will soon get around if you are a tosser! Your whole career will depend on your reputation.
The best thing you can do is knock on doors, which means buy yourself a cheap stationwagon, and then drive around the country. Don't waste your time posting resumes'.
Good Luck...
The helicopter industry in Oz is so small, word will soon get around if you are a tosser! Your whole career will depend on your reputation.
The best thing you can do is knock on doors, which means buy yourself a cheap stationwagon, and then drive around the country. Don't waste your time posting resumes'.
Good Luck...
Working odd jobs for enough to get a bit of petrol money etc. a few months or a couple of years is nothing in the big scene.