Cattle Mustering incl Training, Job Prospects (!) etc etc
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Mine arrived yesterday, I had almost forgotten about PU's pipe hanging out of his mouth when he flew.
Some compensation is in the mail Graeme. Thanks.
Some compensation is in the mail Graeme. Thanks.
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got mine and watched it about three mins after opening the post.
cheers Graham. top job!.
good to see some of my family history in there even. (Black pats cousin).
the low stress boys would have been having minor hearties watching this.
cheers Graham. top job!.
good to see some of my family history in there even. (Black pats cousin).
the low stress boys would have been having minor hearties watching this.
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Great video!
Thanks, Graeme - I'll be keeping my eyes out for that certain thing to post back. Don't know what, or where I'll see it, but if you get some strange package form the USA, don't call the police!
Thanks, Graeme - I'll be keeping my eyes out for that certain thing to post back. Don't know what, or where I'll see it, but if you get some strange package form the USA, don't call the police!
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Getting a mustering endorsement In Australia
Hi all, I have recently finished my CPLH and am planning to head up the top end at the start of the wet. (I have missed the season this year, so I might aswell make some cash down here while I can).
My question is can you get a mustering endorsement before looking for a job? I am aware of the 100 hours command time before gaining the rating. This might seem silly but I have rang a few schools and been told, Sorry mate we cant do it cos you have actually got to go mustering to be checked out for the endorsement and we dont have the contacts to provide that service. (but advertise mustering training!!!!)
Do any of you working pilots/ground crew have any idea if there is an operator who can provide me with the mustering experience to get the endorsement, I have some ground cattle experience. Obviously this would have to be paid for, any Ideas of the going rate if I can find someone willing to do it.
Thanks for any replies or Pm me if you dont wish to post
Bye for now
My question is can you get a mustering endorsement before looking for a job? I am aware of the 100 hours command time before gaining the rating. This might seem silly but I have rang a few schools and been told, Sorry mate we cant do it cos you have actually got to go mustering to be checked out for the endorsement and we dont have the contacts to provide that service. (but advertise mustering training!!!!)
Do any of you working pilots/ground crew have any idea if there is an operator who can provide me with the mustering experience to get the endorsement, I have some ground cattle experience. Obviously this would have to be paid for, any Ideas of the going rate if I can find someone willing to do it.
Thanks for any replies or Pm me if you dont wish to post
Bye for now
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Welcome to the forum James85 - and congrats on your CPL(H). 
Contact Graeme Gillies at Blue Tongue Helicopters - he posts here as imabell.
Graeme has been mustering for many years, is an experienced instructor and (I think) checks out mustering pilots.
[email protected]
Graeme has made a dvd about mustering in Oz, see link here.
John Abersynth seems to be plugging the Becker school a lot recently. You'll find a cross-section of conflicting opinions on that school on this thread: Oz schools
Suggest you read it and decide for yourself.
Good luck.
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Contact Graeme Gillies at Blue Tongue Helicopters - he posts here as imabell.
Graeme has been mustering for many years, is an experienced instructor and (I think) checks out mustering pilots.
[email protected]
Graeme has made a dvd about mustering in Oz, see link here.
John Abersynth seems to be plugging the Becker school a lot recently. You'll find a cross-section of conflicting opinions on that school on this thread: Oz schools
Suggest you read it and decide for yourself.
Good luck.
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Cattle Mustering
Hi James ,
First of all you will need the 100 in comand before you start the heli muster course as you will know.
Up here in queensland there is a company that conducts training and issues the mustering endorsement there link is shown below.
http://www.reidheliwork.com.au/html/.../mustering.php
Feel free to get in contact with these guys.
I wish you luck , you may be aware that getting in to cattle mustering is who you know and not what you know.
Automan
First of all you will need the 100 in comand before you start the heli muster course as you will know.
Up here in queensland there is a company that conducts training and issues the mustering endorsement there link is shown below.
http://www.reidheliwork.com.au/html/.../mustering.php
Feel free to get in contact with these guys.
I wish you luck , you may be aware that getting in to cattle mustering is who you know and not what you know.
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Graeme Gillies, Ken Amis or Miles Tomkyns would be your guys.
(apologies for spelling errors in names)
Or as John Abersynth says...ring Mike, he'll look after your wallet.
(apologies for spelling errors in names)
Or as John Abersynth says...ring Mike, he'll look after your wallet.
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Some companys have pilots that have approvals to grant mustering endorsements. If you are lucky enough to get a start with one of these companys you should expect to get some good on the job training which you wont have to pay for. Trick as usual is to get your foot in the door and the only way to do that is to be there. From what I've seen, if an operator puts on a low time pilot, it is usually on the basis of them having some common sense, an ability to listen and learn and to be able to get along with the clients and the other pilots.
Good Luck
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helimatt has got it right.
don't pay me or any one for a mustering endorsement.
the only thing you need initially is a low flying permit, this is not an endorsement. in the near future you will have to do this at a school. 5 hours minimum of low level training. it should have been done for you when you did your licence.
now you go and get a job and the company that hires you will give you many hours of training on the job with a mob of cattle and this will be more than enough to be issued with a mustering endorsement. and you will have saved a few thousand dollars.
if you were to come to a school to do the endorsement you would be just flying around an empty paddock and not benefitting any one but the schools bank account. mustering companies will give you the training their way regardless of you having done the training.
keep your money for travelling to the companies.
bellfest too makes a lot of good comment on the industry.
cattle mustering is a commom sense job and has been mastered by carpenters, gas fitters, chefs, truckies, plumbers, plasterers and people from every other trade. you have to be able to get on with people in a small community, you have to do your share etc. etc. most of all you have to be a good pilot first.
blokes from urban areas look at mustering as a means of accruing hours and moving on. blokes from the bush just want the cattle in the yards and want to stay in the bush.
all of these people are pretty good pilots but their ambitions are different.
i have had the pleasure of flying with mobs of exceptional pilots that have no dreams of going past the front gate of the cattle station. i have also seen the mustering industry turn out pilots that are now check and training captains on super pumas, chief pilots of major off shore companies and company owners that now employ aircrew. the bushies are in the cattle industry but most of us want to be in the aviation industry. you can do both.
the mustering industry is a career in its self and increases your skill levels amazingly in a short period of time because of the huge hours you fly. you have to treat it with respect as it has been the main source of work for hundreds and hundreds of successful pilots.
i was a vegetarian living on a tropical island in the carribean when i got my first mustering job in the gulf of carpentaria. from then on it was beef, beef and more beef without a piece of lettuce in sight. it was also the best fun i ever had.
fabulous country, and fabulous people.
any one can learn to be a cattle mustering helicopter pilot, you just have to persevere to get your big toe in the gate.
and don't spend your money on endorsements that you can get for nothing.
i would like to write some more but i can here the machine running.
graeme
don't pay me or any one for a mustering endorsement.
the only thing you need initially is a low flying permit, this is not an endorsement. in the near future you will have to do this at a school. 5 hours minimum of low level training. it should have been done for you when you did your licence.
now you go and get a job and the company that hires you will give you many hours of training on the job with a mob of cattle and this will be more than enough to be issued with a mustering endorsement. and you will have saved a few thousand dollars.
if you were to come to a school to do the endorsement you would be just flying around an empty paddock and not benefitting any one but the schools bank account. mustering companies will give you the training their way regardless of you having done the training.
keep your money for travelling to the companies.
bellfest too makes a lot of good comment on the industry.
cattle mustering is a commom sense job and has been mastered by carpenters, gas fitters, chefs, truckies, plumbers, plasterers and people from every other trade. you have to be able to get on with people in a small community, you have to do your share etc. etc. most of all you have to be a good pilot first.
blokes from urban areas look at mustering as a means of accruing hours and moving on. blokes from the bush just want the cattle in the yards and want to stay in the bush.
all of these people are pretty good pilots but their ambitions are different.
i have had the pleasure of flying with mobs of exceptional pilots that have no dreams of going past the front gate of the cattle station. i have also seen the mustering industry turn out pilots that are now check and training captains on super pumas, chief pilots of major off shore companies and company owners that now employ aircrew. the bushies are in the cattle industry but most of us want to be in the aviation industry. you can do both.
the mustering industry is a career in its self and increases your skill levels amazingly in a short period of time because of the huge hours you fly. you have to treat it with respect as it has been the main source of work for hundreds and hundreds of successful pilots.
i was a vegetarian living on a tropical island in the carribean when i got my first mustering job in the gulf of carpentaria. from then on it was beef, beef and more beef without a piece of lettuce in sight. it was also the best fun i ever had.
fabulous country, and fabulous people.
any one can learn to be a cattle mustering helicopter pilot, you just have to persevere to get your big toe in the gate.
and don't spend your money on endorsements that you can get for nothing.
i would like to write some more but i can here the machine running.
graeme
Last edited by imabell; 16th Sep 2004 at 22:40.
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Empire of the Dust,
what a good DVD, arrived here in the UK today and already been watched by most of family, What a good deal of history it contains, the HEli bits are superb, but the history of that huge continent is something else, sadly we dont see much of that sort of down to earth history of that true giant of a Country.
trust me the cheque has gone into the UK first class post tonight 03.11/04
With the extra have a tube or two on old Vfr.
PeterR-B
what a good DVD, arrived here in the UK today and already been watched by most of family, What a good deal of history it contains, the HEli bits are superb, but the history of that huge continent is something else, sadly we dont see much of that sort of down to earth history of that true giant of a Country.
trust me the cheque has gone into the UK first class post tonight 03.11/04
With the extra have a tube or two on old Vfr.
PeterR-B
Mine also arrived a couple of days ago. Many thanks.
I might struggle to get a AUS$ cheque to Oz from the UK - can I second Whirlybird's request to, er, 'donate' by Paypal please?
I might struggle to get a AUS$ cheque to Oz from the UK - can I second Whirlybird's request to, er, 'donate' by Paypal please?
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Also got mine in the mail. Many thanks.
And also figure out way to pay from Belgium (trust on that matter is much appreciated)
A swift transfer would be easiest..
Delta3
And also figure out way to pay from Belgium (trust on that matter is much appreciated)
A swift transfer would be easiest..
Delta3
Hi!
Got mine today!
Really a good history dvd , not too much helimustering but good enough.
I can deposit cash direct to account or by Paypal if you want.
Thanks!
Regards.
Aser
Got mine today!
Really a good history dvd , not too much helimustering but good enough.
I can deposit cash direct to account or by Paypal if you want.
Thanks!
Regards.
Aser
