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The reason Australia has a more relaxed attitude to colour blindness is because of the tireless efforts of Dr Arthur Pape. Read his colour vision site for more info. He worked very hard to get the right to fly.
Note, there is a restriction on the colour defective pilot in Australia. They can only fly in Australian airspace.
The reason Australia has a more relaxed attitude to colour blindness is because of the tireless efforts of Dr Arthur Pape. Read his colour vision site for more info. He worked very hard to get the right to fly.
Note, there is a restriction on the colour defective pilot in Australia. They can only fly in Australian airspace.
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So do you have a Class 1 medical tim? Have you taken any offical lantern tests?
Obviously theres no point training if you have no class 1, but if you do have a class 1 then you should have no problem.
Obviously theres no point training if you have no class 1, but if you do have a class 1 then you should have no problem.
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So do you have a Class 1 medical tim? Have you taken any offical lantern tests?
Obviously theres no point training if you have no class 1, but if you do have a class 1 then you should have no problem.
Obviously theres no point training if you have no class 1, but if you do have a class 1 then you should have no problem.
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Hi Whirly,
Long time no see!
Blinkz is right on the money. AFAIK there is no restriction for the NPPL for any colour deficit.
Bit strange that you can not fly helos on an NPPL, or do these machines require superior physiques?
FD
Long time no see!
Blinkz is right on the money. AFAIK there is no restriction for the NPPL for any colour deficit.
Bit strange that you can not fly helos on an NPPL, or do these machines require superior physiques?
FD
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Hi Whirly,
Long time no see!
Blinkz is right on the money. AFAIK there is no restriction for the NPPL for any colour deficit.
Bit strange that you can not fly helos on an NPPL, or do these machines require superior physiques?
FD
Long time no see!
Blinkz is right on the money. AFAIK there is no restriction for the NPPL for any colour deficit.
Bit strange that you can not fly helos on an NPPL, or do these machines require superior physiques?
FD
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Colour Blindness
I was diagnosed with a red/green colour defficiency when I was in high school, because of it I was not pernitted to join the defense forces. Now my only way is to front up the cash to get my commercial helicopter license, and i'm not even sure if that would be enough. I have failed the ishihara test and didnt score too well on the farnsworth lantern test. Is there anyone who has experienced similar trials, and if so, what was your approach to overcoming them?
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Colour Blindness
I was diagnosed with a red/green colour defficiency when I was in high school, because of it I was not pernitted to join the defense forces. Now my only way is to front up the cash to get my commercial helicopter license, and i'm not even sure if that would be enough. I have failed the ishihara test and didnt score too well on the farnsworth lantern test. Is there anyone who has experienced similar trials, and if so, what was your approach to overcoming them?
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letter of proficiency
I have plans to take the falant test in the weeks to come. I hope I do well on it so I can get the "letter of proficiency" issued by the AME. However I have some questions about it...
I know that it is valid for FAA 1st class exams, and that I dont have to make the test ever again if I have the letter. Is it the same for the CAA, or the JAA or any other aviation authority where I would have to renew a possible 1st class? I mean if I take the falant once, and I pass it, I`m cleared in color vision for life and everywhere I go?
Is that enough to clear the color vision issue and be able to get an ATPL?
thanks!
I know that it is valid for FAA 1st class exams, and that I dont have to make the test ever again if I have the letter. Is it the same for the CAA, or the JAA or any other aviation authority where I would have to renew a possible 1st class? I mean if I take the falant once, and I pass it, I`m cleared in color vision for life and everywhere I go?
Is that enough to clear the color vision issue and be able to get an ATPL?
thanks!
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letter of proficiency
I have plans to take the falant test in the weeks to come. I hope I do well on it so I can get the "letter of proficiency" issued by the AME. However I have some questions about it...
I know that it is valid for FAA 1st class exams, and that I dont have to make the test ever again if I have the letter. Is it the same for the CAA, or the JAA or any other aviation authority where I would have to renew a possible 1st class? I mean if I take the falant once, and I pass it, I`m cleared in color vision for life and everywhere I go?
Is that enough to clear the color vision issue and be able to get an ATPL?
thanks!
I know that it is valid for FAA 1st class exams, and that I dont have to make the test ever again if I have the letter. Is it the same for the CAA, or the JAA or any other aviation authority where I would have to renew a possible 1st class? I mean if I take the falant once, and I pass it, I`m cleared in color vision for life and everywhere I go?
Is that enough to clear the color vision issue and be able to get an ATPL?
thanks!
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I just wanted to put something down here that should reassure a few people - I had really struggled with the Ishihara plates at my local optician, and was worried that I was going to screw up my class 1 because of it.
Went down to Gatwick, and passed the book no problems. It is worth bearing in mind that they use very new books (i.e. no fading of the colours) and the test is carried out under a special lamp that provides the correct colour temperature etc.
In other words, don't give up hope if you struggle a bit at your local optician.
I would also add that ishihara plates are something that a lot of people struggle on the first few times you see them. Once you know what kind of thing you're looking for (i.e. roughly what size and shape the numbers are), it becomes a fairer test. The 24 plate test is available at this site and while you shouldn't try and learn them (if you're going to fail the test then it is for a reason after all
) having a look through them so you know roughly what to expect is no bad thing, I'd suggest.
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Went down to Gatwick, and passed the book no problems. It is worth bearing in mind that they use very new books (i.e. no fading of the colours) and the test is carried out under a special lamp that provides the correct colour temperature etc.
In other words, don't give up hope if you struggle a bit at your local optician.
I would also add that ishihara plates are something that a lot of people struggle on the first few times you see them. Once you know what kind of thing you're looking for (i.e. roughly what size and shape the numbers are), it becomes a fairer test. The 24 plate test is available at this site and while you shouldn't try and learn them (if you're going to fail the test then it is for a reason after all
) having a look through them so you know roughly what to expect is no bad thing, I'd suggest.NW3
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I just wanted to put something down here that should reassure a few people - I had really struggled with the Ishihara plates at my local optician, and was worried that I was going to screw up my class 1 because of it.
Went down to Gatwick, and passed the book no problems. It is worth bearing in mind that they use very new books (i.e. no fading of the colours) and the test is carried out under a special lamp that provides the correct colour temperature etc.
In other words, don't give up hope if you struggle a bit at your local optician.
I would also add that ishihara plates are something that a lot of people struggle on the first few times you see them. Once you know what kind of thing you're looking for (i.e. roughly what size and shape the numbers are), it becomes a fairer test. The 24 plate test is available at this site and while you shouldn't try and learn them (if you're going to fail the test then it is for a reason after all ) having a look through them so you know roughly what to expect is no bad thing, I'd suggest.
NW3
Went down to Gatwick, and passed the book no problems. It is worth bearing in mind that they use very new books (i.e. no fading of the colours) and the test is carried out under a special lamp that provides the correct colour temperature etc.
In other words, don't give up hope if you struggle a bit at your local optician.
I would also add that ishihara plates are something that a lot of people struggle on the first few times you see them. Once you know what kind of thing you're looking for (i.e. roughly what size and shape the numbers are), it becomes a fairer test. The 24 plate test is available at this site and while you shouldn't try and learn them (if you're going to fail the test then it is for a reason after all
) having a look through them so you know roughly what to expect is no bad thing, I'd suggest.NW3
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Hi PedroUSB,
I passed a Lantern Test for a CAA Class 3 medical back in 1992. The results of this test were recently accepted for issue of a JAA Class 2. However, on speaking to the CAA Medical Branch today about Class 1 medicals I was told that I will have to take the Lantern Test again at Gatwick.
So, although I do not comment with any authority, I would expect that, even if you pass the FAA's FALANT Test, the CAA would require you to retake their Lantern Test (Holmes-Wright or Beynes) for issue of a JAA Class 1 Medical. It may be worth looking at other JAA countries, as often mentioned in this thread.
Best of luck,
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I passed a Lantern Test for a CAA Class 3 medical back in 1992. The results of this test were recently accepted for issue of a JAA Class 2. However, on speaking to the CAA Medical Branch today about Class 1 medicals I was told that I will have to take the Lantern Test again at Gatwick.
So, although I do not comment with any authority, I would expect that, even if you pass the FAA's FALANT Test, the CAA would require you to retake their Lantern Test (Holmes-Wright or Beynes) for issue of a JAA Class 1 Medical. It may be worth looking at other JAA countries, as often mentioned in this thread.
Best of luck,
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Hi PedroUSB,
I passed a Lantern Test for a CAA Class 3 medical back in 1992. The results of this test were recently accepted for issue of a JAA Class 2. However, on speaking to the CAA Medical Branch today about Class 1 medicals I was told that I will have to take the Lantern Test again at Gatwick.
So, although I do not comment with any authority, I would expect that, even if you pass the FAA's FALANT Test, the CAA would require you to retake their Lantern Test (Holmes-Wright or Beynes) for issue of a JAA Class 1 Medical. It may be worth looking at other JAA countries, as often mentioned in this thread.
Best of luck,
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I passed a Lantern Test for a CAA Class 3 medical back in 1992. The results of this test were recently accepted for issue of a JAA Class 2. However, on speaking to the CAA Medical Branch today about Class 1 medicals I was told that I will have to take the Lantern Test again at Gatwick.
So, although I do not comment with any authority, I would expect that, even if you pass the FAA's FALANT Test, the CAA would require you to retake their Lantern Test (Holmes-Wright or Beynes) for issue of a JAA Class 1 Medical. It may be worth looking at other JAA countries, as often mentioned in this thread.
Best of luck,
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No JAA states will accept the Falant, as it is not a JAA authorised test, just as the FAA will not accept the Beynes lantern even tho it is a CAA approved test.
Colourvision is a very difficult subject since there is alot of difference in opinion in how important colourvision is to flying.
Colourvision is a very difficult subject since there is alot of difference in opinion in how important colourvision is to flying.