Colour Blindness (merged)
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Just got back from Cologne and I passed the Beynes Lantern test!They test you in a much easier way than at LGW, first they show you the colours and say what they are then you just have you just have to repeat them. Plus it's in the dark! Anyone know now if this would be valid in Spain or would I have to do it again!!??!!
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Congrats mate!! I sent you a PM hoping for the best, I'm so pleased for you! I don't know on the details if you can trasnfer it, I'm pretty sure you can transfer a full class 1 JAA medical to the UK, and if you talk to them and tell them you've passed they might retest you, you'll have to ask!
Can you PM me any details of where you went? sounds like a good place to go
Can you PM me any details of where you went? sounds like a good place to go
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Congrats mate!! I sent you a PM hoping for the best, I'm so pleased for you! I don't know on the details if you can trasnfer it, I'm pretty sure you can transfer a full class 1 JAA medical to the UK, and if you talk to them and tell them you've passed they might retest you, you'll have to ask!
Can you PM me any details of where you went? sounds like a good place to go
Can you PM me any details of where you went? sounds like a good place to go
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Type of Ishihara at Gatwick?
Hi,
Anyone know whether the Ishihara plates used at Gatwick CAA medical office are the 24- or 38-plate variety?
I've applied for the ICAO Extended Renewal JAR Class 1 medical. I meet the Canadian minimum standard which is the Farnsworth D-15 test, a series of coloured disks you have to arrange in order from purple to turqoise.
However I routinely fail the Ishihara test, and am trying to "get used" to the plates. If anyone else is in the same boat, the 24-plate Ishihara is online at http://www.kcl.ac.uk/teares/gktvc/vc/lt/colourblindness/cblind.htm
Also, apparently there are (very!) tiny numbers on the real Ishihara plates, from 1-24 in series that match 1-24 on the online test above.
Anyone know whether the Ishihara plates used at Gatwick CAA medical office are the 24- or 38-plate variety?
I've applied for the ICAO Extended Renewal JAR Class 1 medical. I meet the Canadian minimum standard which is the Farnsworth D-15 test, a series of coloured disks you have to arrange in order from purple to turqoise.
However I routinely fail the Ishihara test, and am trying to "get used" to the plates. If anyone else is in the same boat, the 24-plate Ishihara is online at http://www.kcl.ac.uk/teares/gktvc/vc/lt/colourblindness/cblind.htm
Also, apparently there are (very!) tiny numbers on the real Ishihara plates, from 1-24 in series that match 1-24 on the online test above.
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Type of Ishihara at Gatwick?
Hi,
Anyone know whether the Ishihara plates used at Gatwick CAA medical office are the 24- or 38-plate variety?
I've applied for the ICAO Extended Renewal JAR Class 1 medical. I meet the Canadian minimum standard which is the Farnsworth D-15 test, a series of coloured disks you have to arrange in order from purple to turqoise.
However I routinely fail the Ishihara test, and am trying to "get used" to the plates. If anyone else is in the same boat, the 24-plate Ishihara is online at http://www.kcl.ac.uk/teares/gktvc/vc/lt/colourblindness/cblind.htm
Also, apparently there are (very!) tiny numbers on the real Ishihara plates, from 1-24 in series that match 1-24 on the online test above.
Anyone know whether the Ishihara plates used at Gatwick CAA medical office are the 24- or 38-plate variety?
I've applied for the ICAO Extended Renewal JAR Class 1 medical. I meet the Canadian minimum standard which is the Farnsworth D-15 test, a series of coloured disks you have to arrange in order from purple to turqoise.
However I routinely fail the Ishihara test, and am trying to "get used" to the plates. If anyone else is in the same boat, the 24-plate Ishihara is online at http://www.kcl.ac.uk/teares/gktvc/vc/lt/colourblindness/cblind.htm
Also, apparently there are (very!) tiny numbers on the real Ishihara plates, from 1-24 in series that match 1-24 on the online test above.
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You can buy the ishihara books on amazon, there are expensive but it's a great help. My only problem was i bought the 24 plates edition and the medical center in France used the 38 plates edition. I made only 6 mistakes on 30 plates but I had to passe the lantern test that I failed because of one color. The examiner told me twice that I have to take care to the white light because it appears yellowish/orange. First one she showed me was the orange one and because I didn't know what the other looked like, I said it was white. That only mistake broke all my dreams.
Now I tried to reapply but they definitly don't give me any help, they want as much people to fail.
Now I tried to reapply but they definitly don't give me any help, they want as much people to fail.
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You can buy the ishihara books on amazon, there are expensive but it's a great help. My only problem was i bought the 24 plates edition and the medical center in France used the 38 plates edition. I made only 6 mistakes on 30 plates but I had to passe the lantern test that I failed because of one color. The examiner told me twice that I have to take care to the white light because it appears yellowish/orange. First one she showed me was the orange one and because I didn't know what the other looked like, I said it was white. That only mistake broke all my dreams.
Now I tried to reapply but they definitly don't give me any help, they want as much people to fail.
Now I tried to reapply but they definitly don't give me any help, they want as much people to fail.
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@oligoe
sorry to hear that, but if you have only done one Lantern Test, (presumably Beyne's Test i think), then you have another two chances. You can do the Holmes-Wright Test in either London or Amsterdam (at Schipol i think) or the Spectrolux Test in Duebendorf near Zurich. If you pass either of them, you'll get you unrestricted Class 1 Medical, even if you faild the other two.
sorry to hear that, but if you have only done one Lantern Test, (presumably Beyne's Test i think), then you have another two chances. You can do the Holmes-Wright Test in either London or Amsterdam (at Schipol i think) or the Spectrolux Test in Duebendorf near Zurich. If you pass either of them, you'll get you unrestricted Class 1 Medical, even if you faild the other two.
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@oligoe
sorry to hear that, but if you have only done one Lantern Test, (presumably Beyne's Test i think), then you have another two chances. You can do the Holmes-Wright Test in either London or Amsterdam (at Schipol i think) or the Spectrolux Test in Duebendorf near Zurich. If you pass either of them, you'll get you unrestricted Class 1 Medical, even if you faild the other two.
sorry to hear that, but if you have only done one Lantern Test, (presumably Beyne's Test i think), then you have another two chances. You can do the Holmes-Wright Test in either London or Amsterdam (at Schipol i think) or the Spectrolux Test in Duebendorf near Zurich. If you pass either of them, you'll get you unrestricted Class 1 Medical, even if you faild the other two.
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Danke Parkbremse,
I will give a try in Dubendorf, it is just an hour drive from where I live. Just one question, is the spectrolux the same thing as the so called anamaloscope ?
Thanks in advance...
I will give a try in Dubendorf, it is just an hour drive from where I live. Just one question, is the spectrolux the same thing as the so called anamaloscope ?
Thanks in advance...
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Danke Parkbremse,
I will give a try in Dubendorf, it is just an hour drive from where I live. Just one question, is the spectrolux the same thing as the so called anamaloscope ?
Thanks in advance...
I will give a try in Dubendorf, it is just an hour drive from where I live. Just one question, is the spectrolux the same thing as the so called anamaloscope ?
Thanks in advance...
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I believe the Spektrolux is similar to the Holmes Wright where there are the two lights which you have to name. The anamoloscope is a bit like a telescope where you have to look down and match the two different coloured halves of the circle.
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I believe the Spektrolux is similar to the Holmes Wright where there are the two lights which you have to name. The anamoloscope is a bit like a telescope where you have to look down and match the two different coloured halves of the circle.
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yes, the Spectrolux and the Holmes-Wright Test are quite similar, however there are some differences:
1. the HW-Test uses 5 different lights (white, yellowish green, green, two shades of red), the Spectrolux Test uses 6 different lights (two shades of white, green, pale green, two shades of red)
2. Viewing distance to the lantern is approx. 5m at the HW Test, but only 3m at Spectrolux Test.
Oligoe, whishing you the best, but in case you fail, i would encourage you to try the Holmes-Wright Test. I failed bot the Beyne's Lantern AND the Spectrolux Lantern, but finally passed the Holmes-Wright Test in Gatwick. So it is possible, even if doesn't look like it!
Viel Glück!
1. the HW-Test uses 5 different lights (white, yellowish green, green, two shades of red), the Spectrolux Test uses 6 different lights (two shades of white, green, pale green, two shades of red)
2. Viewing distance to the lantern is approx. 5m at the HW Test, but only 3m at Spectrolux Test.
Oligoe, whishing you the best, but in case you fail, i would encourage you to try the Holmes-Wright Test. I failed bot the Beyne's Lantern AND the Spectrolux Lantern, but finally passed the Holmes-Wright Test in Gatwick. So it is possible, even if doesn't look like it!
Viel Glück!
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yes, the Spectrolux and the Holmes-Wright Test are quite similar, however there are some differences:
1. the HW-Test uses 5 different lights (white, yellowish green, green, two shades of red), the Spectrolux Test uses 6 different lights (two shades of white, green, pale green, two shades of red)
2. Viewing distance to the lantern is approx. 5m at the HW Test, but only 3m at Spectrolux Test.
Oligoe, whishing you the best, but in case you fail, i would encourage you to try the Holmes-Wright Test. I failed bot the Beyne's Lantern AND the Spectrolux Lantern, but finally passed the Holmes-Wright Test in Gatwick. So it is possible, even if doesn't look like it!
Viel Glück!
1. the HW-Test uses 5 different lights (white, yellowish green, green, two shades of red), the Spectrolux Test uses 6 different lights (two shades of white, green, pale green, two shades of red)
2. Viewing distance to the lantern is approx. 5m at the HW Test, but only 3m at Spectrolux Test.
Oligoe, whishing you the best, but in case you fail, i would encourage you to try the Holmes-Wright Test. I failed bot the Beyne's Lantern AND the Spectrolux Lantern, but finally passed the Holmes-Wright Test in Gatwick. So it is possible, even if doesn't look like it!
Viel Glück!
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Parkbremse,
How difficlut would you say the Spektrolux test is compared to Holmes Wright? Although you sit nearer to the lights are they smaller or different intensity?
How difficlut would you say the Spektrolux test is compared to Holmes Wright? Although you sit nearer to the lights are they smaller or different intensity?