Murray/Bodill Round the World
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engineoff - "First the R44 then this latest incident "
Add to that the grounding of Concorde and we Brits are really celebrating "100 years of Powered Flight" in style.
And this from the nation who gave the world the jet engine, radar and yes, what the hell, say it proud - The Brotherhood of Man's "Save all your kisses for me. What has become of us?
By the way, if that had been Shackelton in the 407, he would have built himself a pogo stick from the wreckage and hopped back to Patriot Hills, none of this "pop the ELT, come and get me" sh-1T.
Add to that the grounding of Concorde and we Brits are really celebrating "100 years of Powered Flight" in style.
And this from the nation who gave the world the jet engine, radar and yes, what the hell, say it proud - The Brotherhood of Man's "Save all your kisses for me. What has become of us?
By the way, if that had been Shackelton in the 407, he would have built himself a pogo stick from the wreckage and hopped back to Patriot Hills, none of this "pop the ELT, come and get me" sh-1T.
Flying Lawyer.....now that is some position to take on these things! How can these cyber-experts get any exercise if they "exercise" patience, good judgement, and such. Don't they get better workouts by jumping to conclusions and running around pointing fingers....let them be, Sir!
I mean afterall FL...the 44 and 407 both need defenders....or so it seems lately.
I mean afterall FL...the 44 and 407 both need defenders....or so it seems lately.
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Why don't these obviously overly wealthy old people just stay at home and leave the flying to the professionals.
10 to 1 that this was a CFIT accident.
Why is everyone celebrating a Granny flying around the planet. What is the point to it?
Why don't they hire someone young with strength, endurance and stamina and MOST importantly EXPERIENCE in flying in these climates to do this.
Get on the pogo stick Gran.........
10 to 1 that this was a CFIT accident.
Why is everyone celebrating a Granny flying around the planet. What is the point to it?
Why don't they hire someone young with strength, endurance and stamina and MOST importantly EXPERIENCE in flying in these climates to do this.
Get on the pogo stick Gran.........
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Mmmm Chairman, welcome back, where have you been?
You're not that aussie plonker who dead sticked into McMurdo base for lack of fuel....getting your own back are you???
You're not that aussie plonker who dead sticked into McMurdo base for lack of fuel....getting your own back are you???
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Why don't these obviously overly wealthy old people just stay at home and leave the flying to the professionals.
Presumably given that, and the fact that he's previously flown solo around the world (albeit following JM's R44), and separately from UK to Australia in a microlight, means that he can reasonably be considered a competent professional. Given that he is, I assume he hasn't chosen to fly with somebody with significantly lower standards.
And what, pray, would be the point of hiring somebody else to go on an expedition for you?
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Nice wind-up, Thomas. Plonker indeed!!
The only dead-sticks were the Goddams who wouldn't top up his fuel, after his wise decision to NOT fall into the oggin just short of New Zillund.
So why are people getting so proud of a granny doing something that Dick Smith did SOLO twenty years ago? Oh, she's a Pom....... yeah, you guys need something to celebrate. It's a long time between rugby games.
(How's that for an invitation to get flamed?)
The only dead-sticks were the Goddams who wouldn't top up his fuel, after his wise decision to NOT fall into the oggin just short of New Zillund.
So why are people getting so proud of a granny doing something that Dick Smith did SOLO twenty years ago? Oh, she's a Pom....... yeah, you guys need something to celebrate. It's a long time between rugby games.
(How's that for an invitation to get flamed?)
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Mr Positive has to drop one finally. Been holding off for a while as all were so overjoyed that so few people could waste so much money to accomplish so little.....
At least they wont be working in the commercial sector as now both have at least one accident on record. ..Something like flying into Known Bad Weather....
I would much rather than see the loss of a good Aircraft, read about the fact that both of their Kayaks were lost to an over joyous group of fat Penguins....
At least they wont be working in the commercial sector as now both have at least one accident on record. ..Something like flying into Known Bad Weather....
I would much rather than see the loss of a good Aircraft, read about the fact that both of their Kayaks were lost to an over joyous group of fat Penguins....
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Glad both safe but have to agree with the colonials, rich brit in love with her own publicity. As for the charity side should have stayed at home and given the money spent on funding the trip direct to charity!! How long would an air ambulance fly on that??
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Have to agree... Raise 100K in charity - Blow 400K (there or therabouts) on getting rescued and writing off the Ac. (Hoping of course that the Military don't kill themselves in the process).. Madness.
PS- Next week I am going to fly an Autogyro to the top of Mount Everest, land; and ride down on my mountain bike! Hoping to raise 10K for charity - Anyone want to come along?
PS- Next week I am going to fly an Autogyro to the top of Mount Everest, land; and ride down on my mountain bike! Hoping to raise 10K for charity - Anyone want to come along?
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What a bunch of jealous boring old farts some of you are!!!
Why should we care how a person should choose to spend their dosh....if they spend 400 to raise 100 for a charity, then so what?
Imagine anyway how many jobs and livelyhoods are kept afloat by the wealthy when flying helis, saling yachts etc etc etc.
Good on them both....how boring would this place be without these colourful characters.
And for the sar types moaning about having to rescue people like this......we are all grateful for what you do but if you dont want the risk, then go get a posting somewhere nicer.
Why should we care how a person should choose to spend their dosh....if they spend 400 to raise 100 for a charity, then so what?
Imagine anyway how many jobs and livelyhoods are kept afloat by the wealthy when flying helis, saling yachts etc etc etc.
Good on them both....how boring would this place be without these colourful characters.
And for the sar types moaning about having to rescue people like this......we are all grateful for what you do but if you dont want the risk, then go get a posting somewhere nicer.
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21 December 2003 - Jennifer and Colin Admitted to Hospital
Author: Sara Tye
Helicopter explorers Jennifer Murray and Colin Bodill are in hospital in the Chilean city of Punta Arenas following a 17-hour rescue mission to retrieve them from the site where they crashed in Antarctica.
Both pilots were taken straight to hospital when they landed in Punta Arenas at 17.50 hours Saturday night (14.50 local). Colin Bodill sustained injuries typical of those received in high-impact crashes. He is undergoing a thorough medical assessment but is lucid, conscious and stable. Jennifer Murray has dislocated an elbow, not broken an arm as was first feared.
Despite his injuries, it is understood that Colin braved the bitter cold to get Jennifer out of the helicopter following the accident and put her into a sleeping bag. He then erected a tent for shelter and lit a stove for warmth before collapsing because of his injuries.
The duo were picked up in a Twin Otter aircraft around three-and-a-half hours after the accident by the Antarctic Logistics and Expeditions rescue team before being taken back to the team’s Patriot Hills base camp. Jennifer and Colin waited at Patriot Hills for the rescue team’s Ilyushin 76 TD aircraft to make the five-hour trip from Punta Arenas and transport the pilots back to the Chilean city’s hospital.
The plane touched down o_n the Patriot Hills "blue ice" landing strip at 12.49 hours UK time (09.49am local) and turned round within an hour to transport the pilots o_n the last leg of their 17-hour ordeal, accompanied by a doctor, to Punta Arenas.
The helicopter accident happened at 1.00am UK time (10.00pm local) o_n Saturday morning, 120 miles north of Patriot Hills o_n the northern section of the Ronne Ice Shelf, as the pilots flew towards South America o_n the latest stage of the Polar First Challenge: an attempt to fly a helicopter around the world from pole to pole that reached the South Pole last Wednesday but has ended o_ne-third of the way through. The pilots used the helicopter’s o_n-board flight-tracking equipment and a satellite phone to alert the rescue team at Patriot Hills to their plight.
Jennifer and Colin arrived at the South Pole last Wednesday in their Bell 407 helicopter, o_n the 100th anniversary of the first powered flight by the Wright brothers. The Polar First Challenge 2003 lifted off from New York o_n October 22nd, 2003. Its aim was to break the pole to pole record and raise awareness and funds for the conservation organisation WWF. Last Saturday, Jennifer met her businessman husband Simon Murray, who is bidding to become the oldest man to walk 850 miles overland to the South Pole unsupported. He is accompanied o_n his trip by Arctic explorer Pen Hadow.
Jennifer Murray, who set the world record for the fastest female solo helicopter flight around the world in 2000, together with co-pilot Colin Bodill, flew down the east coast of the U.S., through Central and Southern America, down to the South Pole. They were in the process of starting their journey up to the North Pole via the west coast of the Americas and Canada, with a view to ending up in New York in mid-April 2004, when the accident happened. Jennifer and Colin planned to make over 160 stops o_n the journey to highlight the work of the WWF, flying scientists to key conservation sites, undertaking mapping and zoning of uncharted territory, tracking illegal destruction of natural resources and following endangered species.
source - Polar First
Author: Sara Tye
Helicopter explorers Jennifer Murray and Colin Bodill are in hospital in the Chilean city of Punta Arenas following a 17-hour rescue mission to retrieve them from the site where they crashed in Antarctica.
Both pilots were taken straight to hospital when they landed in Punta Arenas at 17.50 hours Saturday night (14.50 local). Colin Bodill sustained injuries typical of those received in high-impact crashes. He is undergoing a thorough medical assessment but is lucid, conscious and stable. Jennifer Murray has dislocated an elbow, not broken an arm as was first feared.
Despite his injuries, it is understood that Colin braved the bitter cold to get Jennifer out of the helicopter following the accident and put her into a sleeping bag. He then erected a tent for shelter and lit a stove for warmth before collapsing because of his injuries.
The duo were picked up in a Twin Otter aircraft around three-and-a-half hours after the accident by the Antarctic Logistics and Expeditions rescue team before being taken back to the team’s Patriot Hills base camp. Jennifer and Colin waited at Patriot Hills for the rescue team’s Ilyushin 76 TD aircraft to make the five-hour trip from Punta Arenas and transport the pilots back to the Chilean city’s hospital.
The plane touched down o_n the Patriot Hills "blue ice" landing strip at 12.49 hours UK time (09.49am local) and turned round within an hour to transport the pilots o_n the last leg of their 17-hour ordeal, accompanied by a doctor, to Punta Arenas.
The helicopter accident happened at 1.00am UK time (10.00pm local) o_n Saturday morning, 120 miles north of Patriot Hills o_n the northern section of the Ronne Ice Shelf, as the pilots flew towards South America o_n the latest stage of the Polar First Challenge: an attempt to fly a helicopter around the world from pole to pole that reached the South Pole last Wednesday but has ended o_ne-third of the way through. The pilots used the helicopter’s o_n-board flight-tracking equipment and a satellite phone to alert the rescue team at Patriot Hills to their plight.
Jennifer and Colin arrived at the South Pole last Wednesday in their Bell 407 helicopter, o_n the 100th anniversary of the first powered flight by the Wright brothers. The Polar First Challenge 2003 lifted off from New York o_n October 22nd, 2003. Its aim was to break the pole to pole record and raise awareness and funds for the conservation organisation WWF. Last Saturday, Jennifer met her businessman husband Simon Murray, who is bidding to become the oldest man to walk 850 miles overland to the South Pole unsupported. He is accompanied o_n his trip by Arctic explorer Pen Hadow.
Jennifer Murray, who set the world record for the fastest female solo helicopter flight around the world in 2000, together with co-pilot Colin Bodill, flew down the east coast of the U.S., through Central and Southern America, down to the South Pole. They were in the process of starting their journey up to the North Pole via the west coast of the Americas and Canada, with a view to ending up in New York in mid-April 2004, when the accident happened. Jennifer and Colin planned to make over 160 stops o_n the journey to highlight the work of the WWF, flying scientists to key conservation sites, undertaking mapping and zoning of uncharted territory, tracking illegal destruction of natural resources and following endangered species.
source - Polar First
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Where does it say that the taxpayer will pay for the rescue?
We are not involved in their organisation therefore do not know the financial details of it.
In the text above, referrals are made as to 'the teams Iluyshin 76'. Perhaps therefore, they have covered the rescue costs themselves.
And in any case, who cares? It is a trivial amount compared to the enormous wastage this country goes through every day. There are much bigger spending problems to be sorted out.....this just becomes an issue because it appears that somebody wealthier than us is enjoying themselves doing something we would all love to do ourselves.
We are not involved in their organisation therefore do not know the financial details of it.
In the text above, referrals are made as to 'the teams Iluyshin 76'. Perhaps therefore, they have covered the rescue costs themselves.
And in any case, who cares? It is a trivial amount compared to the enormous wastage this country goes through every day. There are much bigger spending problems to be sorted out.....this just becomes an issue because it appears that somebody wealthier than us is enjoying themselves doing something we would all love to do ourselves.
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quote from Chairmanofthebored
Why don't these obviously overly wealthy old people just stay at home and leave the flying to the professionals
chairman just out of interest what makes a proffesional
is it a cpl with 300 hrs on a r22 and a frozen atpl
ex mil piot with oodles of hrs
a police pilot like tc lol
a pilot who has flown twice around the world
why cant overly wealthy old people fly their helicopters when they want
some overly wealthy old people have more experience /hours ect than cpls
whereas i dont personally think flying accross barren areas like this is very sensible ,i would possibly have thought the wright boys getting into a flying machine 100 yrs ago not to be very sensible either
or is it you are just plain jealous that you are not doing it yourself. or your not a overly wealthy or a old person
steve
Why don't these obviously overly wealthy old people just stay at home and leave the flying to the professionals
chairman just out of interest what makes a proffesional
is it a cpl with 300 hrs on a r22 and a frozen atpl
ex mil piot with oodles of hrs
a police pilot like tc lol
a pilot who has flown twice around the world
why cant overly wealthy old people fly their helicopters when they want
some overly wealthy old people have more experience /hours ect than cpls
whereas i dont personally think flying accross barren areas like this is very sensible ,i would possibly have thought the wright boys getting into a flying machine 100 yrs ago not to be very sensible either
or is it you are just plain jealous that you are not doing it yourself. or your not a overly wealthy or a old person
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MD600 DRIVER FOR PRESIDENT !!
Well said Steve.
ps. I am a 'professional' pilot, not old or wealthy and still think they should have done it. I would guess that chairman is cheesed off and out of work at the moment.
Well said Steve.
ps. I am a 'professional' pilot, not old or wealthy and still think they should have done it. I would guess that chairman is cheesed off and out of work at the moment.
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I actual agree that those with the money should spend it on what they like but not expect us normal folk to then say hooray and well done when they do or don't succeed.
Must dash off to LHR to fly to Maldives for Xmas & New Year.
Must dash off to LHR to fly to Maldives for Xmas & New Year.
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I'm not sure how the topic of personal wealth is relevant to the current expedition and it's stated goals. It's grand that they have their own SAR team, and obviously they've planned this to the last detail. Question for the group...
Should they do it again?
(I respond with, "Yea")
Should they do it again?
(I respond with, "Yea")
Bizarrely, they have raised their media profile much higher by crashing than they would have by succeeding!!! My wife told me today about the 2 people who had crashed a helicopter in Antarctica and was somewhat surprised that I already knew all the details. But what will the WWF (and thats World Wildlife Fund not the Wrestlers) think about the unspoilt wilderness being polluted by their champions?
At least the inevitable book about the 'adventure' will have a couple of interesting chapters!
At least the inevitable book about the 'adventure' will have a couple of interesting chapters!