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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 10:48
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Am I correct in thinking after 1500 hours accumulated on an MPL you can apply for an ATPL? If so, is it the full ATPL effectively a CPL+IR with all the privileges?
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Old 2nd Sep 2019, 15:47
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An MPL is basically a CPL/IR that you can only use on multi pilot aircraft for one specific airline. Once you meet the ATPL requirements you can upgrade via a skills test during your next LPC/OPC if the company lets you. It's more than just 1500 hours, you'll need 100 hours night and 500 hours as PIC under supervision, which again is at the discretion of the company.
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I see, thanks.
So can I have a PPL/SEP at the same time as a MPL ?
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How many pilots with MPLs have actually gotten an ATPL and are flying as Captains?
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Old 5th Sep 2019, 07:04
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Originally Posted by rudestuff View Post
...only use on multi pilot aircraft for one specific airline.
Not true! (bold part)
Don't know where this misconception comes from. Once the license is issued you are free to work at any airline.


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How many pilots with MPLs have actually gotten an ATPL and are flying as Captains?
First MPL classes I know about started in the mid 2000's, so they've been around for quite a while. So, yes, there are many, and I know a few of them my self.
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How many pilots with MPLs have actually gotten an ATPL and are flying as Captains?
well thereís at least one ☝️
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 09:40
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I see, thanks.
So can I have a PPL/SEP at the same time as a MPL ?
The answer is yes.. Ideally during the MPL SE flying the progress tests were conducted by an examiner who was also approved to conduct PPL flight tests, with SEP(land) on your MPL licence when issued.
If that was not the case, then you will need sufficient refresher training and pass the flight test, and then have SEP (land) added your licence.
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Am I correct in thinking after 1500 hours accumulated on an MPL you can apply for an ATPL? If so, is it the full ATPL effectively a CPL+IR with all the privileges?
Your ATPL will be issued based on your multi-crew experience. LHS as Captain, provided experience and qualifications as prescribed by your AOC holder are possible.

However, as you didnít complete the standard CPL/IR there is a shortfall in single pilot (SP) flying experience and the fact that the MPL course does not include an initial SP IRST. The normal CPL/IR privileges will not apply until the necessary SP training has successfully been completed. That will also apply for FIC due lack of SP experience.
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Another variation of rules is that once a CPL/IR (+MCC on Integrated courses) is applied for/issued, the ATO responsibility ends. The fATPL holder (once MCC completed) completes the type rating.

With MPL customers, the MPL licence is issued once the type rating (standard issue) is completed, and it is at this point the ATO responsibility ends. They have oversight of the type rating course. Incidentally the TRI/TRE need to be MPL qualified as well, irrespective that the type course is the same for all.

Line training now takes place, and invariably the MPL FO will shine as the 120 hours of simulator prior to the type rating course has been using the specific SOPs of the company.
The ideal course for those who wish to spent their career in the airlines.

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