Is OpenSkies BA or not?
Is OpenSkies BA or not?
Can I please reiterate, OPENSKIES IS NOT BRITISH AIRWAYS.
Most on pprune will know the history between the two and the fact that BA pilots were specifically prevented from flying for Openskies.
Mods can we change the title of this thread so the less well informed media don't make the usual mistakes?
Many thanks
LD
Most on pprune will know the history between the two and the fact that BA pilots were specifically prevented from flying for Openskies.
Mods can we change the title of this thread so the less well informed media don't make the usual mistakes?
Many thanks
LD
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If it walks like a duck
OPENSKIES IS NOT BRITISH AIRWAYS
Openskies is a wholly owned subsidiary of British Airways, which has been created to take advantage of the recently liberalised air service agreement between Europe and the United States.
OpenSkies will leverage the best of BA, including Execlub Club benefits, while implementing new products and services to produce a unique and differentiated customer experience and operate non stop service between Paris and New York and Washington D.C. flying a fuel-efficient Boeing 757 aircraft with only 64 seats in a two-class configuration, with 24 seats in Biz Bed and 40 in Biz Seat.
OpenSkies will leverage the best of BA, including Execlub Club benefits, while implementing new products and services to produce a unique and differentiated customer experience and operate non stop service between Paris and New York and Washington D.C. flying a fuel-efficient Boeing 757 aircraft with only 64 seats in a two-class configuration, with 24 seats in Biz Bed and 40 in Biz Seat.
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French Indeed
Looks remarkable British Airways to me....!!!!Photos: Boeing 757-236 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
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I understand the BA pilots will short;y be flying for openskies, as usual secondees will be taking commands but OS pilots will not have access to BA, shameful bully behaviour.
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This aircraft looks like a BA plane too but it 'aint. Check the reg.
ZS-OTG - British Airways (Comair) Boeing 737-400 Aircraft @ Airplane-Pictures.net
To reiterate, Openskies has a French AOC, flies from France to the 'States and has no BA pilots, trainers or managers. BA pilots would rather the chatham flag wasn't on the fin and you can read all about that using this forums search function.
Certain elements of this forum and the media would love this to have been a BA plane but it just plain isn't, in the same way that the Continental Dash-8 crash in Buffalo a while back was actually Colgan Air operating under a codeshare agreement. The fact it was painted in Continental colours meant that Continental got the bad press in the media and I suspect most mainline Continental flightcrew would argue their training and experience levels are somewhat different.
Just my two pennies' worth.
LD
ZS-OTG - British Airways (Comair) Boeing 737-400 Aircraft @ Airplane-Pictures.net
To reiterate, Openskies has a French AOC, flies from France to the 'States and has no BA pilots, trainers or managers. BA pilots would rather the chatham flag wasn't on the fin and you can read all about that using this forums search function.
Certain elements of this forum and the media would love this to have been a BA plane but it just plain isn't, in the same way that the Continental Dash-8 crash in Buffalo a while back was actually Colgan Air operating under a codeshare agreement. The fact it was painted in Continental colours meant that Continental got the bad press in the media and I suspect most mainline Continental flightcrew would argue their training and experience levels are somewhat different.
Just my two pennies' worth.
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Franchise agreements and politics aside, the a/c mentioned above have 'British Airways' written on the sides.
If they are willing to accept these franchises and paint the a/c up in their colours, then British Airways have to accept the publicity that comes with any 'incidents'!!!!
If they are willing to accept these franchises and paint the a/c up in their colours, then British Airways have to accept the publicity that comes with any 'incidents'!!!!
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BA - OPENSKIES - LAVION...Balpa, pilots strike, British AOC, French AOC, closing base, new destination, new management, low cost SOP, my gosh what a MESS 
What's the point of this swallow up money project???
www.flyopenskies.com/ba_executive_club/en_us
What's the point of this swallow up money project???www.flyopenskies.com/ba_executive_club/en_us
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You are correct, however, we here are not the general public and we should be able to point out the facts of the matter. OpenSkies was operated as a franchise of BA by a French subsidiary company, by their own pilots etc.
We know that reporters come on here and quote from here about many things aviation related. By being factual imay just mean that the reporters will actually be able to report accurately the situation to Joe Public, no?
In this instance I doubt if many column inches were taken up with the incident in any case, but the principal remains nonetheless.
You are correct, however, we here are not the general public and we should be able to point out the facts of the matter. OpenSkies was operated as a franchise of BA by a French subsidiary company, by their own pilots etc.
We know that reporters come on here and quote from here about many things aviation related. By being factual imay just mean that the reporters will actually be able to report accurately the situation to Joe Public, no?
In this instance I doubt if many column inches were taken up with the incident in any case, but the principal remains nonetheless.
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By being factual imay just mean that the reporters will actually be able to report accurately the situation to Joe Public, no?
The 'story' is usually better that way.
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http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...p-setting.html
Ummm....very wise decision to stop, seems to be something missing near the tail
https://www.flyopenskies.com/our_fleet/en_us
Ummm....very wise decision to stop, seems to be something missing near the tail
https://www.flyopenskies.com/our_fleet/en_us
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the crew observed an inconsistency between what was seen on one of their instruments and what they expected to see.
Who did the walk-round!?
A classic endorsement of BA's publicity department!