Is OpenSkies BA or not?
 

Can I please reiterate, OPENSKIES IS NOT BRITISH AIRWAYS.

Most on pprune will know the history between the two and the fact that BA pilots were specifically prevented from flying for Openskies.

Mods can we change the title of this thread so the less well informed media don't make the usual mistakes?

Many thanks

LD

LD - can you confirm no seconded BA pilots there nor any seconded BA managers?

Never any of the former, no longer any of the latter.

I can confirm TC's answer.

No BA pilots in any capacity at Openskies.

LD

If it walks like a duck
 

OpenSkies - British Airways

Starbear :D :E

It's not even a British airline. It's French.

As the French tricolour proudly flying on the fin will attest to !!!!

Oh wait......

French Indeed
 

Looks remarkable British Airways to me....!!!!Photos: Boeing 757-236 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

If you'd like to know why OpenSkies pilots won't have access to BA you might want to ask BA why they refused BALPAs request to have all OpenSkies pilots on the master BA seniority list.

This aircraft looks like a BA plane too but it 'aint. Check the reg.

ZS-OTG - British Airways (Comair) Boeing 737-400 Aircraft @ Airplane-Pictures.net

To reiterate, Openskies has a French AOC, flies from France to the 'States and has no BA pilots, trainers or managers. BA pilots would rather the chatham flag wasn't on the fin and you can read all about that using this forums search function.

Certain elements of this forum and the media would love this to have been a BA plane but it just plain isn't, in the same way that the Continental Dash-8 crash in Buffalo a while back was actually Colgan Air operating under a codeshare agreement. The fact it was painted in Continental colours meant that Continental got the bad press in the media and I suspect most mainline Continental flightcrew would argue their training and experience levels are somewhat different.

Just my two pennies' worth.

LD

Franchise agreements and politics aside, the a/c mentioned above have 'British Airways' written on the sides.
If they are willing to accept these franchises and paint the a/c up in their colours, then British Airways have to accept the publicity that comes with any 'incidents'!!!!

:=

I think that's fair comment WindSheer. Joe public doesn't know or care about the intricacies of codesharing, francising etc., let alone the aircraft's registration.

BA - OPENSKIES - LAVION...Balpa, pilots strike, British AOC, French AOC, closing base, new destination, new management, low cost SOP, my gosh what a MESS :ugh: What's the point of this swallow up money project???


www.flyopenskies.com/ba_executive_club/en_us

Windsheer

You are correct, however, we here are not the general public and we should be able to point out the facts of the matter. OpenSkies was operated as a franchise of BA by a French subsidiary company, by their own pilots etc.

We know that reporters come on here and quote from here about many things aviation related. By being factual imay just mean that the reporters will actually be able to report accurately the situation to Joe Public, no?

In this instance I doubt if many column inches were taken up with the incident in any case, but the principal remains nonetheless.

Generally speaking...No.
The 'story' is usually better that way.:ooh:

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...p-setting.html

Ummm....very wise decision to stop, seems to be something missing near the tail :E

https://www.flyopenskies.com/our_fleet/en_us

- geesh Frank! The 'Tailplane missing light is on!'

Who did the walk-round!?

A classic endorsement of BA's publicity department!

Thats brilliant.

Best pilots maybe (must be to fly something like that), but engineers, publicists, PR....

Hilarious.

:ugh:

John R:

BA takes a constant pounding on this forum.