Flight deck/cockpit photos
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Flight deck/cockpit photos
On websites such as airliners.net, you can search for photos on the main search specificly for cockpit views. I am just curious as to how photographers actually get to take these photos as I thought visits were banned at all times and some photos on there are taken on final approach etc.!
Someone please correct me if im wrong, but im sure that it is just UK airlines and those from the USA. that ban flight deck visits for members of the public. Mind you, a large proportion of the cockpit photos on airliners are taken by aircrew anyway!
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For sure there are some post 9/11 FD images on airliners.net and jetphotos.net. There seems to be a few airlines that dominate recently, there are always lots from Iberia & Lufthansa. Obviously there are more.
Remember though, some of these post 9/11 photos are taken by flight crew.
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eP
Remember though, some of these post 9/11 photos are taken by flight crew.
Cheers,
eP
Remember though, some of these post 9/11 photos are taken by flight crew.
Examples.
And this one
In his remarks the photographer even says "Thanks a lot to the very friendly pilots to give me the jumpseat."
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Yeah, you see quite a few post 9/11 pics with comments thanking the flight crew. I'm not sure if its down to the individual crews, airlines, or if its rule by certain authorities such as the CAA for example.
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With all respect to 9/11 things have returned back to normal and although there might be a small risk, access to the flight deck becomes easier nowadays... (of course not in the US...)
There are several ways of allowing access with no risk at all. I remember a Capt. on a transatlantic flight who, after we asked, invited us to the front, and chatted with us about 30 min. in front of a locked cockpit door. That's a pretty neat way getting to know the guy you're allowing access.
Remember, final decision lies with the Capt.
There are several ways of allowing access with no risk at all. I remember a Capt. on a transatlantic flight who, after we asked, invited us to the front, and chatted with us about 30 min. in front of a locked cockpit door. That's a pretty neat way getting to know the guy you're allowing access.
Remember, final decision lies with the Capt.
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I would not say that the acces to the cockpit becomes easier nowadays. In the company I work for, no passenger is allowed to the flight deck under any circumstances.
I work for a long haul airline.
I work for a long haul airline.
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Seconded -my outfit has a strictly no pax visits whilst the engines are running rule - and there are no exceptions.
Voeni
In most places the Captain does not have the flexibility you imply- Flight Deck access rules are generally laid down at Government level ( well certainly in the UK) and anyone permitting such a visit would probably pretty soon find himself/herself out of a job.
Seconded -my outfit has a strictly no pax visits whilst the engines are running rule - and there are no exceptions.
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In most places the Captain does not have the flexibility you imply- Flight Deck access rules are generally laid down at Government level ( well certainly in the UK) and anyone permitting such a visit would probably pretty soon find himself/herself out of a job.
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Moan time!
I would be glad to take flight deck photos for people during the flight. I get plenty of requests to sign childrens mini-log books on holiday flights. So why not send up a camera with the stewardess and ask them to get a snap.... Though I'll probably be told there is some security issue there. I'm not a great photographer, but a simple point and shoot or similar instruction should be no trouble. Also could be bad if I broke the camera!!
I think it's a real shame we cant let enthusiasts and wannabes on the flight deck in flight anymore. I gained an understanding of the job from visits and jump seat rides. I knew from those that I wanted to fly for a living. I cant help but feel the industry has lost alot of potential pilots and curtailed the enthusiasts enthusiasm through the locked door policy. I would love to see an access system in place for wannabes and enthustiasts whereby they could obtain a set of criminal record checks, become security "screened" like airline staff and be given a pass that says it's ok for this person to visit the flight deck. I'm sure it would be down to the individual to pay the admin costs for such a scheme. I hope it would be worthwhile for any that did it.
Maybe I'm just dreaming. I think it would be good for moral.... Maybe someday....
I think it's a real shame we cant let enthusiasts and wannabes on the flight deck in flight anymore. I gained an understanding of the job from visits and jump seat rides. I knew from those that I wanted to fly for a living. I cant help but feel the industry has lost alot of potential pilots and curtailed the enthusiasts enthusiasm through the locked door policy. I would love to see an access system in place for wannabes and enthustiasts whereby they could obtain a set of criminal record checks, become security "screened" like airline staff and be given a pass that says it's ok for this person to visit the flight deck. I'm sure it would be down to the individual to pay the admin costs for such a scheme. I hope it would be worthwhile for any that did it.
Maybe I'm just dreaming. I think it would be good for moral.... Maybe someday....
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Very true mate. As a wannabe myself, I used to enjoy visiting the flight deck and having a chat with the pilots. My bird used to work for JMC/TCX, and she used to clear it with them before we used to fly, so I usually got quite a bit of time up there (including T/O of landing).
I fly quite a lot these days, and miss those flight deck visits.
Nice to see some pilots out there appreciate the positions of the wannabe's and enthusiasts
I fly quite a lot these days, and miss those flight deck visits.
Nice to see some pilots out there appreciate the positions of the wannabe's and enthusiasts
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given a pass that says it's ok for this person to visit the flight deck. I'm sure it would be down to the individual to pay the admin costs for such a scheme.
The pass (licence) you refer to is the green one that once you've got doesn't seem to let you off the flight deck!! Funny how the whole thing works.
Nice to see some pilots out there appreciate the positions of the wannabe's and enthusiasts
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Originally Posted by Voeni
With all respect to 9/11 things have returned back to normal and although there might be a small risk, access to the flight deck becomes easier nowadays... (of course not in the US...)
There are several ways of allowing access with no risk at all. I remember a Capt. on a transatlantic flight who, after we asked, invited us to the front, and chatted with us about 30 min. in front of a locked cockpit door. That's a pretty neat way getting to know the guy you're allowing access.
Remember, final decision lies with the Capt.
There are several ways of allowing access with no risk at all. I remember a Capt. on a transatlantic flight who, after we asked, invited us to the front, and chatted with us about 30 min. in front of a locked cockpit door. That's a pretty neat way getting to know the guy you're allowing access.
Remember, final decision lies with the Capt.
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It's a crying shame that we are strangled by current legislation. I know for a fact that interest in what goes on in front of the portcullis is undiminished and it is criminal that we are not as captains allowed to use our own judgement as to who we allow on the flight deck in flight. My sister, who I have known for more than fifty years, is not allowed to accompany me on MY flight deck but any herbert who I have never met who happens to have a 'pass' can do so. Absolute nonsense. I do not break the rules but that does not stop me being angry about the situation.
