A380 is supposed to fly at Le Bourget next month?
More room for me. 
Alexban,
IMHO Boeings in the past have been extremely well built and designed aircraft. The quality of NG manufacture would seem to not be as high. The autopilot is shocking for a new generation aircraft. I am glad that my company has not proceeded with CAT 3B autoland limits. Even though they are new they seem to be all bent in different directions, or maybe they are not rigged correctly. I know airlines wanted it this way, but I cannot believe an aircraft of this age has an overhead panel so dated.
As I said before this is IMHO, I used to think Airbuses when I flew them were flimsy, but the NG has made me eat my words!
IMHO Boeings in the past have been extremely well built and designed aircraft. The quality of NG manufacture would seem to not be as high. The autopilot is shocking for a new generation aircraft. I am glad that my company has not proceeded with CAT 3B autoland limits. Even though they are new they seem to be all bent in different directions, or maybe they are not rigged correctly. I know airlines wanted it this way, but I cannot believe an aircraft of this age has an overhead panel so dated.
As I said before this is IMHO, I used to think Airbuses when I flew them were flimsy, but the NG has made me eat my words!
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Come on Lemurian,
Are you for real.
The CRT's may have made the cockpit more appealing to homosexual interior designers but they have hardly revolutionised flight. Whats next for Airbus, Scented Seats or floral colored windows for the captain?The CRT Screens were eventually going to end up in aircraft anyway due to there clarity and there size compared to ordinary screens.but they will never fully take over from the basic traditional instruments
And the sidestick, well thats another story. I dont think that has any real importance to the world of aviation.
Whats wrong with the yoke anyway? Two hands are better than one.
We'll see if the 380(in all its ugliness which has been standard on all airbuses) has such a distinguished and long-lived delightful career as the 747 series which will continue to dominate its so called rival the 340.
Are you for real.
The CRT's may have made the cockpit more appealing to homosexual interior designers but they have hardly revolutionised flight. Whats next for Airbus, Scented Seats or floral colored windows for the captain?The CRT Screens were eventually going to end up in aircraft anyway due to there clarity and there size compared to ordinary screens.but they will never fully take over from the basic traditional instruments
And the sidestick, well thats another story. I dont think that has any real importance to the world of aviation.
Whats wrong with the yoke anyway? Two hands are better than one.
We'll see if the 380(in all its ugliness which has been standard on all airbuses) has such a distinguished and long-lived delightful career as the 747 series which will continue to dominate its so called rival the 340.
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Hi everybody, please lets face it, whoever Boeing, Airbus and anymore .....Let the new Airbus fly and we will all know about it`s real capabilities and future....In a way lets not count the chickens before the eggs are hatched.....Big talk is easy.....Silence is golden..........
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Sorry Gibney85 but I tend to disagree entirely with your opinions posted so far. But then, this is a place for giving "personal" opinions. Facts are another thing... I know some people have stated FACTS on this thread, which others have prefered to ignore when they are against their "own personal" opinion. Airbus is ugly... That's YOUR opinion! Not mine. Yet does it matter so much whether their nice or not to look at? A380, I've alreday seen it "en direct" and in MY opinion it's far from ugly.
"Scented seats"... Come on, what's your point?
"Scented seats"... Come on, what's your point?
gibney85 you must be joking to make a statement on CRT's that doesn't even make sense, in hindsight you can always say that something is going to end up like that, doesn't particularly detract from Airbus' role. CRT screens will never take over from basic instruments, well now everything in terms of display is LCD and again this statement is nonsensical theres no argument it has taken over from the light aircraft like the Cirrus sr22 to Boeing 777.
The sidestick application in the A320 was the first for a commercial airliner and many pilots that fly it say it seems more natural to fly like this once you've done it a few times. Outside of commercial aviation there are various stick/yoke configurations but at the end of the day Airbus were the first to put it in an airliner. Take that as you will but it is a fact nonetheless.
A340 rival to 747? Not strictly as with the 777 it is used as a replacement for the classic 747 but not even the 346 is intended to be strictly a rival to the 744 but the 773
The sidestick application in the A320 was the first for a commercial airliner and many pilots that fly it say it seems more natural to fly like this once you've done it a few times. Outside of commercial aviation there are various stick/yoke configurations but at the end of the day Airbus were the first to put it in an airliner. Take that as you will but it is a fact nonetheless.
A340 rival to 747? Not strictly as with the 777 it is used as a replacement for the classic 747 but not even the 346 is intended to be strictly a rival to the 744 but the 773
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Gibney,
please change your profile.Truthfulness could come from experience.
I thought-silly me-you were one of these young aviation enthusiasts who deserve to receive an info from us old aviators.
I won't waste my time with childish uninformed babble any more.
When you've learned that one rarely use both hands to fly an airplane,when Porsche designed the 320 cockpit (and may be some of their engineers are gay,why not?) that the side stick is used in quite a few combat aircraft (for homosexual fighter jocks,I suppose),then you'll have some credibility.
There are a few sites on the web for 12 year old willy-wavers.You will be in good company.
please change your profile.Truthfulness could come from experience.
I thought-silly me-you were one of these young aviation enthusiasts who deserve to receive an info from us old aviators.
I won't waste my time with childish uninformed babble any more.
When you've learned that one rarely use both hands to fly an airplane,when Porsche designed the 320 cockpit (and may be some of their engineers are gay,why not?) that the side stick is used in quite a few combat aircraft (for homosexual fighter jocks,I suppose),then you'll have some credibility.
There are a few sites on the web for 12 year old willy-wavers.You will be in good company.
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Toulouse, I respect your comments and indeed your opinions.
I have seen many pictures of the A380 and agree it does look the part. I understand you are a fan of airbus. I am too especially as i am a european. I just find that they are not up to boeing's level of both success and innovation(Yet
, no doubt the A380 will change that)
Disregard regard my sarcasim regarding Airbus's ugliness. I was refering to my own opinion of airbus's older machines. I did not mean harm by it.
Dodoflies is right, we'll wait, see and judge
Lemurian, I could understand your negativity towards my post, but i have to say that i dislike your comments.
Contrary to what you might think, i never asked for info from you. The last time i looked this was a forum where discussion and opinions are expressed and i wish you would accept that.
For your information, i am not as uninformed as you may think. I am well aware of the one handed piloting of the yoke and the sidestick used in combat aircraft. I feel you took the homosexual comments too far, with overboard sarcasm which i do not find the least bit humourus.
Lemurian, I am far from 12 Years old and what you describe. You request me to change my profile and question my truthfulness, Why?
I have seen many pictures of the A380 and agree it does look the part. I understand you are a fan of airbus. I am too especially as i am a european. I just find that they are not up to boeing's level of both success and innovation(Yet
, no doubt the A380 will change that)Disregard regard my sarcasim regarding Airbus's ugliness. I was refering to my own opinion of airbus's older machines. I did not mean harm by it.
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Hi everybody, please lets face it, whoever Boeing, Airbus and anymore .....Let the new Airbus fly and we will all know about it`s real capabilities and future....In a way lets not count the chickens before the eggs are hatched.....Big talk is easy.....Silence is golden..........
Hi everybody, please lets face it, whoever Boeing, Airbus and anymore .....Let the new Airbus fly and we will all know about it`s real capabilities and future....In a way lets not count the chickens before the eggs are hatched.....Big talk is easy.....Silence is golden..........
Lemurian, I could understand your negativity towards my post, but i have to say that i dislike your comments.
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I thought-silly me-you were one of these young aviation enthusiasts who deserve to receive an info from us old aviators.
I thought-silly me-you were one of these young aviation enthusiasts who deserve to receive an info from us old aviators.
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I won't waste my time with childish uninformed babble any more.
When you've learned that one rarely use both hands to fly an airplane,when Porsche designed the 320 cockpit (and may be some of their engineers are gay,why not?) that the side stick is used in quite a few combat aircraft (for homosexual fighter jocks,I suppose),then you'll have some credibility
I won't waste my time with childish uninformed babble any more.
When you've learned that one rarely use both hands to fly an airplane,when Porsche designed the 320 cockpit (and may be some of their engineers are gay,why not?) that the side stick is used in quite a few combat aircraft (for homosexual fighter jocks,I suppose),then you'll have some credibility
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Gibney85, thanks for your response. Much appreciated. I would however be interested in knowing where you've got the idea that Airbus is not up to Boeing's level of success and innovation. My opinion is different to yours on this point, and I'm not saying one manufactures is better than the other, and as you will see in other posts I have made I fully support competition and thus hope for success for both Boeing and Airbus. But still, Airbus is a much newer company than Boeing, thus it's commercial success must be calculated taking into account that its aircraft have been on the market for less time than Boeing, then compare number of aircraft ordered and in service around the worl and you'll see Airbus is really quite successful. Innovation, Lemurian has already posted some of the European manufactures innovations, so there is no need to say more. And also, perhaps we should remember the history behind Airbus, before the company "Airbus" or EADS even existed. There is a great aeronautical history behind the company... Concorde, the beautiful "Caravelle"...
On your point of ugliness, I find Airbus aircraft to be quite attractive, that just my opinion. Personnally, the most beautiful commercial aircraft in my opinion are the A340, Boeing 727, Concorde and the Caravelle...
On your point of ugliness, I find Airbus aircraft to be quite attractive, that just my opinion. Personnally, the most beautiful commercial aircraft in my opinion are the A340, Boeing 727, Concorde and the Caravelle...
