If flown in the aircraft an IR renewal can also renew an MEP with just one or two extra exercises.

The alternate year rule doesn't affect us in the UK I don't think. Something to do with ANO ammendments and the fact that it requires an Act of Parliament or something. It's been discussed here before.

I saw an advert for Mannair recently in Wales - hours revision with an instructor on FNPT2 then your renewal all for £395. Not a bad deal I thought.

Check out Mike Boulton at STS in bournemouth website below:

http://www.simulatortrainingservices.co.uk/

He is a good guy and does a lot of IR renewal stuff in his fnpt2 sim.

Why do you need a single pilot IR if you are paying for a type rating with an airline that will give you a multi pilot IR as part of the LPC/OPC at the end of the course? Ask them. You're not likely to ever need it again if you pass your rating and land the job. Why waste the cash when it could be better spent paying of all those loans?

I was in a similar situation several years ago, and the airline I now work for didn't really care about the IR as they were about to pay for the multi pilot IR anyway. Just talk to them and see if it really does matter.

BTW good luck!

Everyone agrees with you but in the majority of cases you simply need a valid MEIR to apply!

Craggenmore is correct - the CAA have recently changed the rules or, more correctly, have implemented the proper rules. You now need to have a valid MEIR to commence a first MPA type rating, and an IR is valid for only 12 months.

One of the TRTOs that I work for has recently had an application rejected because the trainee had not renewed his IR for 3 years before starting the type rating course - under the old rules that would have been OK, but not now.

You cannot RENEW in an FNPTII, if you do, its invalid. AL4 to JAR-FCL1.246 Sept 2005! Every other revalidation may be conducted in a FNPT II. Renewals must be conducted in an aeroplane.

.....if it has expired by more than 5 years but less than 7 OR more than 7 years.

If it's less than 5 years, its a proficiency check with NO mention of the word aeroplane.

Lasors Section E, Page 6

AL4 to JAR-FCL1.246 Sept 2005 is no clearer either!

???

can anyone clarify the difference between a renewal and a revalidation? Many thanks :confused:

Current or Valid
 

Am I right or wrong......... A MEIR is VALID for 5 years after your initial test or renewal but only CURRENT for 1 year. As far as I was aware...... you only had to have a valid IR to apply for your initial type rating. Please correct me if Im wrong.

You are wrong. That used to be the case under UK national arrangements but now, in the brave new world of JAR, an IR is valid for one year - end of story. In JAR-FCL there is no distinction between 'valid' and 'current'.
Even the CAA got this wrong for a while but, in LASORS 2006, they have changed the requirement to align with JAR-FCL. You now need a valid (i.e. revalidated within the preceding year) IR before starting a first MPA type rating course. A number of type rating applications have been rejected by the Belgrano recently because the applicant did not have a valid MEIR.

Hi BBear,

having spent some time in the same dilemma, I would certainly recommend renewing your IR/MEP on an aircraft - the cheapest that I found was at Elstree airport (not too far from Oxford) and the examiner was very fair and good value for money. He also organised the aircraft.
In total the renewal came to about £500 (including the aircraft hire and exam fees). Its not fair to post the examiners name here, but I have his contact details. If you want them, drop me an email.

Cheers

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IR Renewal with MB at Bournemouth
 

Got my IR to renew soon.

Just wondered if you had any comments....

Cheers,

Dtysapco:)

I take it by MB you mean Mike Boulton????? If so you will have no problems at all, super guy, very very good
FF

Hi there
I second that.I have used Mike's services for three renewals so far and he is very,very good.He renders an excellent service that is above and beyond the usual level.A decent skin, who also has a nice King Air sim in Bournemouth.
Highly recommended.
regards
TDD:ok:

Did mine via Mike in December. Excellent value.

IR at EGHH
 

Just booked mine in with Mike too.....good to know he has a good rep!

Starting the IR in July!

1. You cannot do an IR Renewal in a FNPT

2. You can only do alternate revalidations in an FNPT

It all changed with AL4 to JAR-FCL1 Sept 05.

I think you will find Mike has an FNPT2 which you can renew an IR on.
Regards alternating the sim with aircraft I am fairly sure that is not yet mandatory but will happen in the not too distant however I am sure I may be corrected.

Does anyone have the definative answer, whether alternate IR revalidations have to be done on the aircraft yet? LASORS says so but is it ratified yet?