Faa Ir - Jaa Ir
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Faa Ir - Jaa Ir
OK ive read the strings -- but has anyone done it recently?
An FAA multi IR is a lot cheaper but how does the test compare to the JAA? , is the 10 in an FNPT 11 and 5 hours in similar aircraft realistic to take the JAA IR initial test, and how possible is it to do the FAA IR in 20 days with hard work ?
Can anyone let me know if they have experiences with this
Thanks
An FAA multi IR is a lot cheaper but how does the test compare to the JAA? , is the 10 in an FNPT 11 and 5 hours in similar aircraft realistic to take the JAA IR initial test, and how possible is it to do the FAA IR in 20 days with hard work ?
Can anyone let me know if they have experiences with this
Thanks
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if you are looking for a minimum of 40h for the IFR( FAA), you will not be confortable to fly in IMC .
I did mine with 50 hours, now I have around 300h instrument and I have still lot to learn.
40hours is nothing, it just give you an idea of what it is to fly with a hood and fly some ILS!
IFR=dead or alive!
I did mine with 50 hours, now I have around 300h instrument and I have still lot to learn.
40hours is nothing, it just give you an idea of what it is to fly with a hood and fly some ILS!
IFR=dead or alive!
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Carbonfibre, here is a suggestion
1. Get the standard operating procedures(SOP) from a flight school who does the 15hour IR conversion
2. Find a good UK based FAA instructor(nothing matters as much as this)
3. Use the SOPs from the conversion flightschool(see point 1) and do the FAA IR in the UK. You can do the 10hours of the 40 in a FAA approved PC based training device. Another 10 can be done in an FAA approved flight training device and 20 in a single engine aircraft(this is as cheap as going to the US and you will have been shooting UK approaches and speaking to UK ATC). Written test is easy and flight test is practical. Now you have IMC privalidges in a G reg plane(when you apply to CAA) and a full ICAO IR(this one lasts for life with no expensive renewals necessary - just currency requirements)
4. Go to USA when you can with a safety pilot. Shoot approaches as much as you can, swapping roles with safety pilot. Both of you can log this time legally(ie half price), this is if pilot shooting approaches in under the hood and the safety pilot is rated for the aircraft. Rembering the SOPs(from point 1) all the time. Do as many NDBs as you can find and try somewhere busy like LA(they get predictable IMC conditions also) - forget Florida.
5. Find good FAA instructor and do FAA multi CPL in a/c you will do JAR conversion in(you will get multi IR automatically by doing two approaches on flight test). Remember to use UK conversion school CPL SOPs also.
6. Only do the ATPLs now (unless you have them already) as you have some experience to assist in processing the theory - keep current.
7. Do MCC before CPL/IR in UK - you can't fail it, so use it to reaquaint with UK IFR teminology and procedures etc.
8. Do conversion course at FTO in point 1(by the way, Tayflite is good and they have experience of people converting in the minimums)
Bloody sensible and inexpensive way to get fATPL
Best of luck
Leonardo
1. Get the standard operating procedures(SOP) from a flight school who does the 15hour IR conversion
2. Find a good UK based FAA instructor(nothing matters as much as this)
3. Use the SOPs from the conversion flightschool(see point 1) and do the FAA IR in the UK. You can do the 10hours of the 40 in a FAA approved PC based training device. Another 10 can be done in an FAA approved flight training device and 20 in a single engine aircraft(this is as cheap as going to the US and you will have been shooting UK approaches and speaking to UK ATC). Written test is easy and flight test is practical. Now you have IMC privalidges in a G reg plane(when you apply to CAA) and a full ICAO IR(this one lasts for life with no expensive renewals necessary - just currency requirements)
4. Go to USA when you can with a safety pilot. Shoot approaches as much as you can, swapping roles with safety pilot. Both of you can log this time legally(ie half price), this is if pilot shooting approaches in under the hood and the safety pilot is rated for the aircraft. Rembering the SOPs(from point 1) all the time. Do as many NDBs as you can find and try somewhere busy like LA(they get predictable IMC conditions also) - forget Florida.
5. Find good FAA instructor and do FAA multi CPL in a/c you will do JAR conversion in(you will get multi IR automatically by doing two approaches on flight test). Remember to use UK conversion school CPL SOPs also.
6. Only do the ATPLs now (unless you have them already) as you have some experience to assist in processing the theory - keep current.
7. Do MCC before CPL/IR in UK - you can't fail it, so use it to reaquaint with UK IFR teminology and procedures etc.
8. Do conversion course at FTO in point 1(by the way, Tayflite is good and they have experience of people converting in the minimums)
Bloody sensible and inexpensive way to get fATPL
Best of luck
Leonardo
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OK good info
OK da-Vinci
Some excellent info there, maybe if i gave some background might be of help, and could you send me a private massege with info on FAA IR in UK?
I have a CPL with ATPL writtens out of the way, the usual IMC, Night and multi, i have 30 hours on instruments and 260hours total
I am asking because a couple of flight schools in US that are quite reputable have said that i could do the Multi IR in the states in 20 days , hard work granted and expecting that, then was thinking of coming back and doing conversion as i would have had 15 hours on the multi in the states already, the company im thinking about has an FNPT11 with the same aircraft type as the one in the states, i am a current flyer, and get plenty of opportunities to fly in and above the clouds, not to IR standard i grant that but its not uncommon for me to do that.
Im really lloking for the way to 1. make it cheaper and 2. I would have more flying experience doing it this way rather than sim time.
That would leave me the extra to go and fly around for about 50 constructive hours in a twin
Thats the plan, just would like to know if anyone has done that , thanks for the advice though very good
Some excellent info there, maybe if i gave some background might be of help, and could you send me a private massege with info on FAA IR in UK?
I have a CPL with ATPL writtens out of the way, the usual IMC, Night and multi, i have 30 hours on instruments and 260hours total
I am asking because a couple of flight schools in US that are quite reputable have said that i could do the Multi IR in the states in 20 days , hard work granted and expecting that, then was thinking of coming back and doing conversion as i would have had 15 hours on the multi in the states already, the company im thinking about has an FNPT11 with the same aircraft type as the one in the states, i am a current flyer, and get plenty of opportunities to fly in and above the clouds, not to IR standard i grant that but its not uncommon for me to do that.
Im really lloking for the way to 1. make it cheaper and 2. I would have more flying experience doing it this way rather than sim time.
That would leave me the extra to go and fly around for about 50 constructive hours in a twin
Thats the plan, just would like to know if anyone has done that , thanks for the advice though very good
