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Old 29th Sep 2023, 08:40
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Originally Posted by 377810
bet recruiters gonna think youre an arrogant little **** . Best you work on it mate or you're not getting through either
So tell me what part of that was arrogant exactly?
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Old 29th Sep 2023, 09:02
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Originally Posted by Donut_Ring
I guess it must be, it would be nice to know the reason why to get some closure. I checked my CV and to me it looks quite strong considering they only want 5 GCSEs. Iím also confident I got 100% on the checking and numerical tests, hence my confusion, but maybe they just donít like something about my application.

Best of luck to those who did get selected though.
At this stage it could be absolutely anything - even grammatical errors. With the competition as strong as it is it everything needs to be perfect sadly. Fortunately they open again in March, so the wait to reapply isnít too long.
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Old 29th Sep 2023, 10:33
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Originally Posted by Donut_Ring
I guess it must be, it would be nice to know the reason why to get some closure. I checked my CV and to me it looks quite strong considering they only want 5 GCSEs. Iím also confident I got 100% on the checking and numerical tests, hence my confusion, but maybe they just donít like something about my application.

Best of luck to those who did get selected though.
One of the webinars mentioned about the 6 GCSE thing. It was largely the fact that the ATPL study is similar to the way you study for GCSE level (large amount of content, not tons of depth - unlike at A level). Although the whole aim of the programme is to "remove barriers" - financial or otherwise.

Second factor is the attention to detail, they also mentioned that in webinars. They explicitly said get your CV and motivation Q answer checked by various people as they suggested grammatical errors or other errors would not be looked on favourably. If you want this opportunity, then you'll do anything possible (within reason) to follow their instructions.

Lots of people said "it's not fair I couldn't log in to the webinar as I was at work etc.." - if you wanted the chance of being in this programme, then take the day off work?

With probably 10,000 applicants, they have probably removed 5-7,000 already through SJT, Maths or error checking issues or just refusal for various requirements reasons (not uploading supporting docs possibly? although some have got through without uploading).

Anyone know how many will get through to Waterside interview? I can't imagine they would have capacity for more than 200 being whittled down to 70?
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Old 29th Sep 2023, 10:44
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I wonder if there is a forum somewhere discussing what numbers people picked and why why didn't win the lottery?
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Old 29th Sep 2023, 11:14
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I wonder if there is a forum somewhere discussing what numbers people picked and why why didn't win the lottery?
haha yes although you don't need to prove 6 GCSEs to buy a lottery ticket!
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Old 29th Sep 2023, 11:33
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Originally Posted by Donut_Ring
Good morning all

A bit of a long shot but I was hoping to get peoples thoughts and hopefully some clarity about my application.

I received a rejection email this morning but Iím really puzzled as to why. Iím very confident I scored highly on the assessments, and in addition to that I have 2 degrees in engineering as well as 5 years experience in gas turbine design working on products that BA uses. However, to my surprise I have not been successful in the first stage.

None of the above entitles me to a job by any means, but Iím really not sure why I have been unsuccessful at such an early stage in the process, as I feel like Iíve ticked all of the boxes to at least go to interview.

The only thing was I didnít upload my GCSE documents, as I didnít have them to hand, but in place I uploaded my BEng and MSc diplomas. Do you think the system could have auto rejected given there were no GCSE evidence?

Again, I really donít want this to come across as entitled, I just feel I performed very strongly on the assessment and have a good set of experience which is all they have seen at this stage - so Iím really confused why I have been unsuccessful at the first stage.

any thoughts on the situation would be really appreciated.

I like you have two engineering degrees, and I like you didn't upload my GCSE results but instead my BEng and MSc diplomas and I have been given an interview. So I'm going to say its very very unlikely that not uploading your GCSE results is what made you unsuccessful. Hopefully this helps so you can at least eliminate this as a reason? Best of luck, hopefully you can find some clarity!
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Old 29th Sep 2023, 11:39
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Does anyone know the next steps after video interview and the dates of the next stages? If I get through I'm hoping a pre booked trip mid October won't cause me any issues!
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Old 30th Sep 2023, 04:29
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Originally Posted by pilotHS24
Does anyone know the next steps after video interview and the dates of the next stages? If I get through I'm hoping a pre booked trip mid October won't cause me any issues!
You skip the what happens next video? Lol

More online assessments, then assessment day 1 with chosen flight school at Waterside, then final assessment day with BA at Waterside.

How long is your trip for? The timeline had been pushed back later than what was originally advertised in the very first Q&A sessions, from Nov offers to Dec offersÖ so you might be okay
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Old 30th Sep 2023, 09:06
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Really enjoyed the video interview, very much not what i was expecting or had prepped for, fingers crossed i get to the next stage
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Old 30th Sep 2023, 11:46
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Originally Posted by Carpflyer82
Has anyone completed the video interview on a mobile device such as phone or iPad? Or is it better suited to a laptop/ desktop?

I did mine yesterday. Started using the iPad but the browser was not recognised. Hurriedly changed to my phone!
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Old 30th Sep 2023, 11:48
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Question:

Any thoughts on those who've been accepted into flight school (so can fund themselves through training) who are using that as a backup if they don't get onto the BA scheme? I understand the scheme is not exclusively for those who can't fund themselves but it is heavily targeted towards that demographic.
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Old 30th Sep 2023, 12:59
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Originally Posted by A320R348
You skip the what happens next video? Lol

More online assessments, then assessment day 1 with chosen flight school at Waterside, then final assessment day with BA at Waterside.

How long is your trip for? The timeline had been pushed back later than what was originally advertised in the very first Q&A sessions, from Nov offers to Dec offersÖ so you might be okay
Posted this before I did the interview, so didnít realise there was a video explaining next steps. Still would be useful to know what dates they have in mind!

Trip is Tues 17th October-Fri 20th October so only a couple of days.
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Video interview completed. Will be interesting to see how it went, and Iíd be very curious about how they assess the clips!
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Old 30th Sep 2023, 17:26
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Originally Posted by zeus2023
Any thoughts on those who've been accepted into flight school (so can fund themselves through training) who are using that as a backup if they don't get onto the BA scheme? I understand the scheme is not exclusively for those who can't fund themselves but it is heavily targeted towards that demographic.
Interesting discussion point. If the candidate has gone through exactly the same strenuous selection process as everyone else and are chosen at the end based on their abilities, fair play to them. I don't see an issue.

The best part of the scheme is that it levels the playing field. Equal opportunities for all.
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Old 30th Sep 2023, 17:50
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Originally Posted by zeus2023
Any thoughts on those who've been accepted into flight school (so can fund themselves through training) who are using that as a backup if they don't get onto the BA scheme? I understand the scheme is not exclusively for those who can't fund themselves but it is heavily targeted towards that demographic.
I personally donít mind, if I was offered the opportunity to have my £100k training paid for and go into a career debt free I wouldnít think twice!
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Old 30th Sep 2023, 23:18
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Originally Posted by zeus2023
Any thoughts on those who've been accepted into flight school (so can fund themselves through training) who are using that as a backup if they don't get onto the BA scheme? I understand the scheme is not exclusively for those who can't fund themselves but it is heavily targeted towards that demographic.
Utterly Irrelevant.

Itís about levelling the playing field for everyone, they start asking for P60s at interview and itís discriminatory the other way.

The idea that someone should turn down the scheme because they could go elsewhere in an act of self sacrifice is also ridiculous.
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Old 1st Oct 2023, 02:04
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Originally Posted by Aj2017
Exactly. Nail on the head. People here are just making excuses because they didnít put enough effort in. Tailoring a CV is absolute basics, you need to sell yourself at every opportunity and being generic isnít good enough. Similarly answering why you want to be a pilot with ďIíve always wanted to be a pilotĒ isnít good enough. So do the other 10,000 people applying.
Also on the initial application page, there was a link to a couple of PDFs BA provided with a diagram of all of the qualities & skills BA are looking for in their future pilots. I tailored my CV and 250 word answer to reflect these. I feel lots of people here missed that helpful clue/resource!
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Originally Posted by VariablePitchP
Utterly Irrelevant.

Itís about levelling the playing field for everyone, they start asking for P60s at interview and itís discriminatory the other way.

The idea that someone should turn down the scheme because they could go elsewhere in an act of self sacrifice is also ridiculous.
I disagree that itís irrelevant. The whole point of the process is to attract talent who otherwise could never have previously considered it as an option due to the cost. Thatís likely to mean given demographics, that a more diverse group are able to apply given the funding barriers disproportionately affecting BME groups.

That said, the process wonít differentiate between those able to self-fund or not, and it shouldnít necessarily be a block to someone taking part.

Video Interview stage closes today, I enjoyed taking part and thought it was a pretty novel way of doing things. Fingers crossed my performance was enough to see me through.
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Old 1st Oct 2023, 11:46
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Oh yeah for sure! I was leaning more towards those who have the funds available, and wouldn't necessarily be in debt though. Ultimately like others have said it is about levelling the field for everyone.
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Originally Posted by Jamestl
I disagree that itís irrelevant. The whole point of the process is to attract talent who otherwise could never have previously considered it as an option due to the cost. Thatís likely to mean given demographics, that a more diverse group are able to apply given the funding barriers disproportionately affecting BME groups.

That said, the process wonít differentiate between those able to self-fund or not, and it shouldnít necessarily be a block to someone taking part.

Video Interview stage closes today, I enjoyed taking part and thought it was a pretty novel way of doing things. Fingers crossed my performance was enough to see me through.
What are BME groups? Why are we all now labelled as being part of a particular group? Surely all that matters is whether you can turn up to work in the correct uniform and fly a plane safely and preferably on time from point A to point B?
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