ATPL exams are not fair!
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From: Paarl
Capn Bug Smasher
I respectfully differ from the point that question banks and the examination should not require "mental gymnastics".
Theory examinations have but a few hours and a one dimensional platform to test your knowledge, understanding and application of an interdisciplinary body of knowledge.(Which btw includes advanced comprehension and communication of problems using the English language.)
Some mental gymnastics will therefore be inevitable.
I respectfully differ from the point that question banks and the examination should not require "mental gymnastics".
Theory examinations have but a few hours and a one dimensional platform to test your knowledge, understanding and application of an interdisciplinary body of knowledge.(Which btw includes advanced comprehension and communication of problems using the English language.)
Some mental gymnastics will therefore be inevitable.
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From: Paarl
FlightDetent
Nothing wrong with that answer.
Plus the fact that you picked up on what we term "calculated incorrect" options shows your understanding of what is asked and the theory.
The question is aimed at teaching a specific concept and that is why you have two answers that could be correct if you are unsure about what to do with the taxi fuel.
Nothing wrong with that answer.
Plus the fact that you picked up on what we term "calculated incorrect" options shows your understanding of what is asked and the theory.
The question is aimed at teaching a specific concept and that is why you have two answers that could be correct if you are unsure about what to do with the taxi fuel.
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Percy van Staden Now you got me completely lost. At your #81 you provided that particular question as an example of what is wrong with the QB, right? If so, what is it?
Looked perfectly fine to me, and carefully crafted. All the other three answers are valid calculation results if you mix the kg / l and taxi fuel +/- not in the good way. Or not mix them at all.
Looked perfectly fine to me, and carefully crafted. All the other three answers are valid calculation results if you mix the kg / l and taxi fuel +/- not in the good way. Or not mix them at all.
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It was never fair, so you have to find your way
I won't be surprised if the intention is to filter the people of becoming a professional pilots from the first place.
The market is so saturated with unemployed qualified pilots that every surplus will bring the industry to a deeper crisis.
After all, the CAA in every country is run by active or retired professional pilots who are well aware of the reality around them.
From the other hand, no one can stop you from trying to achieve your dream and spending your money.
The market is so saturated with unemployed qualified pilots that every surplus will bring the industry to a deeper crisis.
After all, the CAA in every country is run by active or retired professional pilots who are well aware of the reality around them.
From the other hand, no one can stop you from trying to achieve your dream and spending your money.
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From: Paarl
FlightDetent, at 81 I was making the point that the CAA exams often use variables different from what you commit to memory (as is shown by the QB question aligned with CAA questions). Nothing wrong with the question itself and certainly not with the QB.
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Percy
Nah man, by "mental gymnastics" I meant "trick questions."
Plenty of call for mental gymnastics without intentionally confusing or tricking the candidate!
The FMS argument above is an example.
Nah man, by "mental gymnastics" I meant "trick questions."
Plenty of call for mental gymnastics without intentionally confusing or tricking the candidate!
The FMS argument above is an example.
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Introduction of KSA100
As it stands, the MCQ format as we know it is here to stay, whether one agrees with its merits or not. It’s theoretical, so anything within limits, theoretically, can happen. Therefore in my opinion, as a current Integrated ATPL student, it’s imperative to understand the theory. There is no place for rote learning here. The banks should be used to supplement knowledge. I hope to find myself in the right seat after acquiring the knowledge to safely say I know what to do as a result of acquiring the theoretical knowledge and applying a common sense approach.
We need to understand the theory. Get my head around that fact and progress.
We need to understand the theory. Get my head around that fact and progress.
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PDR1
4 year MEng + 2 years further training, + 2 years professional practice.
Or 3 year BEng + 1 year MSc + 2 years training + 2 years practice.
A degree does not qualify somebody to practice as an engineer with any independence, any more than you'd want somebody who'd passed all the ATPL TK, but done none of the actual flying and skill tests to be in charge of a passenger aircraft.
Which to be fair, you pretty much said, I was just expanding.
4 year MEng + 2 years further training, + 2 years professional practice.
Or 3 year BEng + 1 year MSc + 2 years training + 2 years practice.
A degree does not qualify somebody to practice as an engineer with any independence, any more than you'd want somebody who'd passed all the ATPL TK, but done none of the actual flying and skill tests to be in charge of a passenger aircraft.
Which to be fair, you pretty much said, I was just expanding.
