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ATPL from EASA to FAA

Old 5th Jan 2021, 13:27
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ATPL from EASA to FAA

Hi guys,

I have EASA ATPL and I would like to “convert” it to FAA.

Can you suggest a school that offer ATP theoretical training for foreign students?
At this moment I found some school in Florida, but I would like to have more options.
I do not mind to travel to some other state.
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 14:45
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You can do all this yourself without a school! Apply directly to the FAA online, to have the FAA verify your EASA license with this form.

Once your EASA ATPL has been verified by your issuing country, the FAA will contact you by email, then you need to make an appointment to a FSDO (in the US city/state of your choice).

During the FSDO in person meeting, and after reviewing all your [original] credentials, the FAA Inspector will tell you exactly what you need to do.

E.g,: you may, or may not, have to take the FAA ATP written exam, if you do, you can easily study by yourself with an online course (see suggestions below). You also might (or not) have to take a CPT course from an approved provider (Certification Training Program - there are more providers that subcontract from the approved ones in the list). You probably won't need a TSA authorization because you are already a licensed pilot (unless you want to do some flight training in a large aircraft or a turbojet).

Again, avoid so called schools and specially those for foreign students! Unless you have money to waste, and want to do all that is not required (student visa, TSA, expensive ground school, lots of flying with an instructor, etc.). That's how these schools make their money, and they know how to milk foreigners who don't know what they don't know.

This said, there are many serious training providers in the US. One is ATP Inc. but I would not use it in your case, because you said you already have an EASA ATPL.

If needed, these are IMO the two best self study ATP written exam prep courses: https://www.sheppardair.com/atp.htm and https://kingschools.com/Search.asp?code=atp
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 15:32
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Hi, thank you a lot for all the information you sent me.
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 19:30
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There is no way you can avoid FAA ATP written test and ATP-CTP. For ATP-CTP, OP needs to go to school (approved sim center).
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Old 5th Jan 2021, 20:17
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avionimc is spot-on.
If you're not a US citizen it might take the FSDO two weeks to evaluate your security threat level so you can visit them (even if their building is under the downwind-to-base turn of your local airport at which you fly), although when I ran into this issue a convenient workaround was to have the meeting in the lobby which requires no security clearance of any kind.
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Old 7th Jan 2021, 17:12
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According my research you are right, I have to follow the course and fly on a sim with a plane with more than 20tons (I fly a bizjet with MTWO 14tons).
Can you recommend a school?

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Old 7th Jan 2021, 18:58
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ufon, I would first apply for verification and then meet with a FSDO Inspector in person to find out exactly what he is requiring in your specific case.

If you are indeed required to perform a CTP, then you can select the best CTP training provider for you -- some CPT providers can use a FFS representing an aircraft weighing less than 40,000 Lbs if they were granted a deviation from 14 CFR 61.156 (as per FSIMS 8900.1 CHG 705). Check also AC 61-138. Good Luck!

PS. metric units such as Kg or Tons are not normally used by the FAA. When you meet with the FAA Inspector, make sure you speak the correct FAA language, and don't tell him how it is done in EASAland, and about all the EASA nonsense. BWDIK
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Old 7th Jan 2021, 20:51
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Thank you. Yes I will apply for the verification letter and I will see what they say me.
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Old 8th Jan 2021, 03:08
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Once you have your EASA ATPL verification, all you need to do is complete the ATP-CTP course and then the flight test.

You can do the flight test in a light twin (seneca) if you want. Or the biz jet type (in a sim) you already fly. It just has to be be multi engine complex. No minimum weight.
You do not need a student visa. You will need to get finger prints in USA for sim training.

I did this in 2018 with an ICAO ATPL.
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Old 8th Jan 2021, 15:35
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PanAm in Miami - ATP-CTP & ATP checkride in the Sim.
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Old 13th Jan 2021, 20:29
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If anyone now what would roughly the price be for this process? EASA ATPL with DH8/IR tr to faa ?
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Old 13th Jan 2021, 21:19
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About 4k USD for the CTP + accommodation 1 week.
About 3-6k for the type ride. Educated guess. 3 days accommodation
TSA and fingerprints etc maybe $250.

If you don't need the type on your FAA ATP, just do the skills test in a Seminole/Seneca/Baron and save thousands!
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