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Best training pace

Old 6th Aug 2019, 16:57
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Best training pace


I am currently wondering about training pace. Some school like L3 will take up to 7 months to provide a CPL MEIR (last year a friend of mine did that)
Others like DFAS will wrap it up in about 2 months.

From a financial and personal point of view, it's quite obvious that the fastest is the best. Cheaper requires no explanation as why it's better, faster is better because everbody is so impatient to sit on seat 0B.

But from a quality point of view ?
Is there an ideal training pace, like one flight per week, one flight every two days, one flight per day, two per day, as fast as possible ?
Schools like DFAS must be at about two flights per day, five days per week placing the theoretical duration of the CPL MEIR at 6-7 weeks + any delay due to cancellations/weather/other, placing the total at about 7 to 9 weeks.
Schools like L3 must be at about 3 flights per week, which is 5 months + delay, giving 6 or 7 months of real duration.

I really have no idea why some schools would choose a fast pace and others a slower one.

So I'm asking for your opinions.
What's your take on the subject ? Which is best ? Does it depend on the student ? Do fast schools like DFAS have any problem in passing statistics due to their fast pace ?
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 22:34
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It depends what stage of training you are at. Ideally one flight a day until solo, increasing to say 2 flights daily, 5 days a week (5/7).
In the IR phase, one event a day ideally, or perhaps 3 events over two days (5/7). Trying at this stage to 2 events daily (5/7) is not recommended. Think about the concept of OSMOSIS, and the rate at which you can occur. The brain is like a sponge, where a gentle 'drip drip' is best for absorption.

The Operation manual will specify just what can be achieved.

Establshments who will have "bitten off more than they can chew" by having more customers (students) than they can cope with, are likely to damage their hard earned reputation. Self funding Customers (white tails) are put to the back of the queue, as the airline students have dates to complete training with probably penalties clauses for late completion.

Read the contract carefully and be aware how invariably it is heavily weighted in favour of the ATO so that when things don't quite work out as anticipated, your redress can be limited, unless a serious breach occurs.

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Old 12th Aug 2019, 17:26
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The phase that concerns me is CPL and IR.
My opinion is the following :
- for all flights and simulator sessions that include a navigation to prepare : one per day, five days per week.
- for all other flights and simulator sessions that require minimal preparation on the student part : two per day, five days per week.

It's clear that faster rythms can cause emotional and even physical fatigue and worse rate of learning than theoretically possible, but what about to slow rythms ?
Like someone who would want to keep a fulltime job and fly one or two sessions per week.
Is that an efficient way of learning ? Does the additional time for the brain to absorb new skills positively compensates the memory loss that happens in the same time, about aircraft procedures, the school's methods, and whatnot ?

Like flying two days in a row (the weekend) then working 5 days (the work week), or flying wednesday and saturday or any combination of one or two flights per week.
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 21:43
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If you have aspirations of airline flying, then you need to be prepared at the 'normal pace'.

You need to understand that working full time & professional flying training is not recommended. Fatigue.
The CPL/IR modular phase is probably best undertaken on a full time basis (5/7) as is the MCC phase.

The most critical part of the training is your ability to select the prescribed power / attitude and TRIM perfectly !
Without this fundamental skill, life will remain a challenge ......these basic skills must be learnt during the SE phase.

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Old 14th Aug 2019, 21:35
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SE? Phase.
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