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Fly-In-Spain Jerez Hours Building Tips

Old 4th May 2017, 11:34
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Fly-In-Spain Jerez Hours Building Tips

Hello Guys and Girls,

In just over a week time I am going to Jerez to try to clock up 50hrs in 16 days.

I am total rookie with no PIC time apart from the time included in LAPL training [separate story why LAPL not PPL, not for this thread], and with minimal experience dealing with ATC.

Do you have ANY tips helpful for me regarding flying with F-I-S, flying out of Jerez, flying in Spain in general, weather characteristics, handy equipment to have, and any pitfalls I can avoid?

Any advice welcome.
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Old 4th May 2017, 21:24
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Hello
This will probably sound obvious, but do prepare your flights very completely.
You may be tempted, after 3 hours of flight per day during 16 days, to prepare less and less your flights : don't do that. You need to brief yourself before each one of those.
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Old 5th May 2017, 08:24
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Thanks KayPam,

very useful, I didnt think about the fact that routine and confidence may kick in...

At the moment I am very nervous and tend to overthink pretty much everything!
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Old 5th May 2017, 23:29
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You will probably have one or two hours of training with an FI before flying solo.
You can also build your confidence at first with smaller flights.

Believe me, you will enjoy this !
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Old 14th May 2017, 12:41
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Jerez is a good place to practice your R/T because the towers in Jerez and Seville are used to many student flights and they are really helpful. Seville approach frequency though gets really crappy sometimes, depending where you're flying (background noise, interference and so on, so might be difficult to understand sometimes but it's an easy airspace in that area).

Weather there is mostly great but I can't tell you during all year how it looks like exactly. I was there in November and then in January and there were just some days on weekends with strong winds that grounded me but that's all. If I had finished the study of all subjects I could have finished my PPL in 4 weeks, but I had to go back to work and return for another week, finish all exams and do my skills test. So I believe you can fly at least 3 hours a day easily. Try to fly 4 and then you will be able to complete in your timetable.

You will be flying mostly to Seville and Cůrdoba, if you feel confident doing longer trips you can go to Morocco, Portugal or farther in Spain. Just be sure you check the landing fees. It could go close to 180 euro in some airports like Barcelona and Madrid.

Cheers
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Old 31st May 2017, 09:18
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Thank you Guys for your input. I have just got back from there, clocked 37 hours and absolutely loved every minute of that!

What a place and what people! Will miss it all deeply.
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Old 15th Jan 2018, 18:07
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Hello Jakub, where did you go in Jerez and what did you rent? Im in the same situation now. the weather in the Netherlands is so %$#% terrible
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Old 16th Jan 2018, 07:24
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Have a look at Air Bnb, when I went there first time, I had a nice apartment for 500 EUR for 1 month.
Hotels during low season can be inexpensive as well, from 45 a night and up.
Wx 90 % sunshine and mostly 100% flyable.
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Old 6th Feb 2018, 03:52
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Hi guys, I am considering doing a frozen ATPL through Fly-In-Spain. I am starting from zero so it's all a bit overwhelming to me. Would you recommend this flying school? Anything I have to worry about?
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Old 27th Aug 2019, 07:33
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Hello everyone, I am considering FIS for my hour building, left approx. 50 hrs to go.
Could someone give me updated info regarding the school in terms of professionalism and instructors? Also would be February a good month to go since I am working?
Thank you and happy flying to everyone.
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Old 27th Aug 2019, 09:16
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Hello everyone, I am considering FIS for my hour building, left approx. 50 hrs to go.
Could someone give me updated info regarding the school in terms of professionalism and instructors? Also would be February a good month to go since I am working?
Thank you and happy flying to everyone.

Stay away! Whatever price they quote you, you can easily add another 20-30% on top of that, because they will milk you where they can.

They will ask for a 2500 Euro deposit, for insurance, good luck in getting that back!

You will regret losing your money at FLY IN PAIN, as they are known....
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Old 27th Aug 2019, 15:14
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Stay away! Whatever price they quote you, you can easily add another 20-30% on top of that, because they will milk you where they can.

They will ask for a 2500 Euro deposit, for insurance, good luck in getting that back!

You will regret losing your money at FLY IN PAIN, as they are known....
Thank you. I have heard different opinion in regards to FIS. Have you had direct experience with them?
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Old 27th Aug 2019, 18:16
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Thank you. I have heard different opinion in regards to FIS. Have you had direct experience with them?
Unfortunately yes. Still regret it.
Place is ran by a bunch of clowns. And as I said, donít go on the price they gave you. Guaranteed it will be a lot more.

Your choice at the end of the day, Iím speaking on behalf of myself and at least 8 or so others that had bad experiences in the same time period.
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Old 27th Aug 2019, 21:23
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Unfortunately yes. Still regret it.
Place is ran by a bunch of clowns. And as I said, donít go on the price they gave you. Guaranteed it will be a lot more.

Your choice at the end of the day, Iím speaking on behalf of myself and at least 8 or so others that had bad experiences in the same time period.
Thx for the feedback I will consider it. Where did you build your hours then? Do you have any suggestions? I have very limited time as I work full time therefore I need an efficient school where I can fly everyday during my time off.
thx in advance
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 06:59
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Thx for the feedback I will consider it. Where did you build your hours then? Do you have any suggestions? I have very limited time as I work full time therefore I need an efficient school where I can fly everyday during my time off.
thx in advance
efficient, thatís def not fly in Spain then.

if you want efficient, go to sky taxi in Hungary, 99 per hour, all included. No catch, no extra fees. 6 hours per day, 3 morning, 3 afternoon.

inbox me if youíre interested, Iím referring a lot of guys there at a slightly lower price.

ps, not affiliated with them in any way.
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Old 30th Aug 2019, 23:21
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Originally Posted by Pilotf View Post
Hello everyone, I am considering FIS for my hour building, left approx. 50 hrs to go.
Could someone give me updated info regarding the school in terms of professionalism and instructors? Also would be February a good month to go since I am working?
Thank you and happy flying to everyone.
I do recommend FIS, those clowns were nice to me and professional when I did my course. On top of that, flexible.
The place is optimum for VMC hour building and about the insurance deposit, it was refunded within a week time after my departure.

Before you get released for solo rental you are expected to show proper skills by doing a check flight with a FI. Expect an hour flight, if you need more you can opt to fly dual or PIC with a safety pilot.

3 years ago, I spent a whole February and I can estimate 95% of the days were flyable, only few mornings with fog up till noon.

I will be back to Jerez next month and will pass by.
My advice: Wherever you go, always add a 10% for unforeseen/unplanned delays and read the contracts.

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Old 13th Sep 2019, 17:54
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Is this the same Airgus that actually works at FIS as an instructor for the last 3 years pretending to be a student ?
I think your are being dishonest in your thread, don't you??
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Old 13th Sep 2019, 19:38
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Is this the same Airgus that actually works at FIS as an instructor for the last 3 years pretending to be a student ?
I think your are being dishonest in your thread, don't you??

that is correct yes!! The same person!
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Its Very biased advising on your own company!!!!
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