Professional Pilot Training (includes ground studies) A forum for those on the steep path to that coveted professional licence. Whether studying for the written exams, training for the flight tests or building experience here's where you can hang out.

drop out of University?

Old 4th Apr 2018, 20:50
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: London
Posts: 13
drop out of University?


I'm currently studying Mechanical Engineering at a very well regarded Russell group university. The course is unbelievably fast paced and is covering some of the most complex applications of maths and physics I have ever come across (not surprising).
My issue is the lack of motivation I have to see the course through. I'm putting this down to the difficulty coupled with the fact its not really a career that I'm aiming for.
Just looking for some advice from some of you as to whether I should stick at it and possibly change course, or drop out all together and start saving towards training.
P.S aside from the course, I am loving every aspect of Uni (mainly social) so dropping out will be a huge decision.

Arena_33 is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2018, 21:22
  #2 (permalink)  
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: chester
Posts: 62
what year are you in?
artschool is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2018, 22:27
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: London
Posts: 13
First year
Arena_33 is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2018, 22:33
  #4 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Wor Yerm
Age: 64
Posts: 0
Go and see someone in the uni and talk it through with them. You need proper specialist advice and hundreds will have been in the same position as you. And flying is not all it’s cracked up to be.

Piltdown Man is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2018, 22:59
  #5 (permalink)  
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Москва/Ташкент
Age: 51
Posts: 838
I feel for you... currently studying Linear Algebra part-time to keep myself amused, and it is brutal

If your intention is to fly anyhow, and you are truly motivated why not wait and finish the course? You have many years ahead of you and you really never know when the degree may open doors.

Think of it as a chink in your armour... you never know when you may need it.

On the other hand... truly... given the fees and expenses... does make you think twice.
flash8 is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2018, 01:00
  #6 (permalink)  
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: SF Bay area, CA USA
Posts: 254
Once you start the habit of quitting it's a hard habit to break. Stick it builds character. Enough said.
jack11111 is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2018, 04:29
  #7 (permalink)  
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 20
I went to uni myself and considered leaving throughout my first and second years to start flying, but didn't. I'm now currently training and wouldn't have it any other way, I don't think I'd have managed without the skills I obtained whilst studying - and I'm not talking about degree-specific technical skills, I mean life skills and experience. Chances are after a few years studying you'll be in a better and more mature place and you'll be better for it. Since you're mostly enjoying the experience as well, I don't think leaving is the right choice for you, I'm sure there will be aspects of your course you'll find you do enjoy too. It's easy to say the grass is greener on the other side.
Millasaurus is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2018, 07:59
  #8 (permalink)  
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Melbourne, Australia + Washington D.C.
Posts: 393
Engineer here, in a field very much related to yours who graduated from a very highly ranked university with a reputation for making your life as a student a misery. My advice is, if you are of a curious nature and like going to the bottom of things, then roll up your sleeves, stick to it and finish your degree. By and large, these studies will bring out the best in you, will shape your analytical mindset and will challenge you in ways that most people will never experience. It'll equip you for life with the tool to solve in a structured way situations and problems that are ill-posed and with blurred boundaries. Seriously, enforce discipline on your brain while it is still somewhat elastic. You'll reap the rewards for many years to come.

Two more things:
1. I can't speak for everyone and I surely won't speak of everyone either when I say so, but while I find flying rather a technical activity, I often have trouble taking some pilots without technical education seriously. Everything can be explained rationally, flying is no different. My instructor showed the lift and drag formulas to me in a way that lacked so much understanding of the underlying physics that it's been making me doubt and challenge his every advice since. I'm not suggesting that every instructor should have a MS in aerodynamics but an engineering degree will definitely teach you to speak about science fluently with carefully chosen words.

2. The first and second years always stink. They're made to filter out those you came to the program without purpose nor drive from the others. It usually goes like this; every course will through heaps of work at you with impossible deadlines. Bite the dust, don't slack but stay ahead and keep your head above the water. Do this year in year out until you graduate. That's the only true learning.

My only mistake was to not take up flying while I was a student.

Last edited by Okihara; 5th Apr 2018 at 09:21.
Okihara is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2018, 09:33
  #9 (permalink)  
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 317
It's all part of character building

The ATPL is also no walkover as well

I've heard of college graduates dropping out of the ATPL classes because they couldn't hack it

It's not that they weren't smart enough but they didn't have the dedication or will to put all the work in

If I was you I would see if out and at least you have something to fall back on if Aviation doesn't work out for you and have that plan B for a good career
Negan is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2018, 09:41
  #10 (permalink)  
Join Date: Aug 1998
Location: London, UK
Posts: 1,964
At a future airline interview, when they look throught your CV, they will probably ask why you dropped out. Showing a lack of commitment will not go down well.
Groundloop is online now  
Old 5th Apr 2018, 18:16
  #11 (permalink)  
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 127
One one hand, sticking at it is very character building. My time at Uni was probably the time I matured the most. I became so much more independent, and learned to think for myself. It gives you soft skills and something for your CV. If you get your degree and then go into flight training, you have that additional feather in your cap of life experience and maturity. Bear in mind that the majority of Integrated school graduates don't have degrees or work experience, so you'll definitely have the edge in an airline interview.

On the other hand, if your heart's not in your Uni course then you'll have a long, hard three years. And the course won't get any easier. If you were in your second or third year, I'd urge you to stick at it. But, the first year's a different beast. It's the lowest pressure, and the most enjoyable. If you can't crack it now, you won't have a chance in the second and third years.

It's a very, very difficult one which only you can assess and make a choice.
Rottweiler22 is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2018, 18:37
  #12 (permalink)  
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: chester
Posts: 62
Originally Posted by Arena_33 View Post
First year
I remember my first introductory lecture at university. The tutor said look at the person to your right and then look to the person to your left, one in three of you will drop out of the course.

as others have said in this thread, you are supposed to find it difficult and it helps form your character.

completing a difficult task is rarely a waste of time.
artschool is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2018, 19:03
  #13 (permalink)  
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 243
If Artschool was given the "look to your left, look to your right" intro by someone with the initials RG, then I may have well been on the same course as them, albeit at an earlier or later date. I was one of the people who dropped out and I reckon I now earn more than I likely would if I had graduated, much more in savings too.

I've now got enough experience on my CV to avoid even mentioning my brief stint at uni (which lasted about six months). The only thing I would mention to the OP is it's all ok knowing what you're leaving from, you need to know what you're leaving to, ideally get an offer for some sort of training programme. Indeed, I know of at least one apprenticeship course where half the group were university dropouts, many did a degree at a later date.

Bear in mind though that nothing worth doing will be easy. You need to find something that "fits" you, the most recent training programme I completed seemed to do that very well. As things stand, there's only one career choice I would willingly give up my current profession for and that choice would be commercial aviation.
Chris the Robot is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2018, 19:12
  #14 (permalink)  
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: GB
Posts: 43
I was in a very similar situation to you, studying a physical science rather than engineering but first year is tough and its designed to be that way. Getting the right balance between your social life and work is something very few people master in the first year especially at UK universities.

Having the degree and the experience will help in a lot more ways than just learning your course, also the ability to work things through when it gets tough is an invaluable skill. I consider myself lucky that the Biology course I was trying to transfer over to was full (thats how close I was to re-doing first year).

Losing your medical can spell the end of a career and having that safety net of a degree will be incredibly helpful in a worst case scenario. Besides that, the salary you will be on after graduating will mean that you'll be able to save up for training in a much shorter time frame.
Jetstream alpha is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.