ATPL help

[r10bbr]

Hi guys, i've just started my modular atpls at CAE, and so far its been the first week & the amount of info to take it has been over whelming , and then there's the 7 exams to be sat in April 2018, we have been told by a lecturer at the school that 90 % of what we learn of the atpl's is bull crap for when we become pilots

what i wanted to ask is how is this humanely possible , i'm already stressed out as it is and i haven't even gone past the first week , how do i filter out what info to remember and what not too.

Does anyone here know of any external providers that provide additional atpl tuition etc, i have enquired at bristol and they do such revison week's for modules, but as an external student from a different school would this help me get a better idea of the topic im struggling with.. i wish they abolished these atpls

i wanted to ask fellow students and ex studnets whom have studied or are studying how do they do it, i've been going over my notes from lectures and reading them again and again and then there's practising the self generated questions on the bank, so much to do its making me pull out my hair as such, i feel like i've bitten abit too much, i know its only 3 days in and its gonna get tough but how do people do it ...

ps im not spending my time on the q.bank as we have been told that to learn the material/theory as that the caa now can ask the same question but worded different..

what i need help with is how to best plan for revising and what to revise and is there such services for extra tuition available..

[Officer Kite]

Question banks will be your best friend sir Use them, use them, use them .... and then use them some more.

Now I'm not advocating blind memorisation of answers (although that will be the case for a couple of questions which make no sense to anyone other than the infamous 'examiner') ... what you need to do is use the question banks as your guide for the learning, they'll guide you as to what you really need to know, studying hundreds of pages of books and writing out notes on something which is never gonna be examined is a sure way to add stress and not get the desired results.

[r10bbr]

but learning the bank will lead to an option where that question may or may not come as each exams are generated different to each student?

[Jaair]

This video may help you:

You Tube

[dook]

.....to know what they are asking as there are quite a few tricks on exam questions designed to get you to fail

Absolute rubbish. For a while I was employed by the CAA as a consultant on the CQB.

I weeded out the questions and answers which were ambiguous and substituted them with ones which were clear and in proper English.

The new questions which I put into the CQB were in the same vein, and there were many.

You will only perceive questions as "tricks" if your knowledge is insufficient and/or you do not understand English.

[THE FLYING MONKEY]

Well said Negan.

I had a question on an inner loop system, which is easy to understand in theory. When I looked at the answers, there were 4 similar long answers talking about independent variables and control variables which I just couldn’t get my head around. I went home and got the text book out, which had one page on it and I’m still none the wiser.
I thought I knew my stuff but obviously not!

[Officer Kite]

dook

Would you only have been able to change questions within the UK CAA or would they have been changed at an EASA level too if you edited them?

For all its faults, the thing I like about the ECQB is that some of the questions and answers are so bizarre that you will never forget the answer again ... it comes handy in the exams!

[r10bbr]

would you say majority of the questions related to the easa exams are more on the bristol bank or more on the aviation bank? i dont sit my exams until april, and i may drop some more near the time depending on how its going so far..

[r10bbr]

thanks for the reply but as i have 7 exams to do in april thats like 7000 questions , what i wanted to ask is how often are these questions being updated and even if i split 1000 question a day for each module are the questions on bristol app repeated again the caa exams as in word for word or are they re worded etc?

[Officer Kite]

Aviation exam is an excellent tool, however there are some subjects which AE doesn't quite do it alone, namely flight planning. I got bitten badly in that exam with loads of Reduced contingency fuel and PDP calculation questions that I had never seen before ... AE only have a couple of theory questions on this, no actual calculations. Yet BGS had numerous questions on them which I only discovered after the exam. So yes use one mainly ... but do have a look to see what the other has that your main one hasn't covered. Together they almost certainly cover it all though.

[dook]

My time with the CAA was pre-EASA.

[paco]

Yes, a lot of us spent time in the Belgrano rationalising suspect questions around then, but only for the UK database. It obviously didn't do much good....

[edhelms]

Guys, do you think It's a good idea to apply for a Ground School or It's a waste of money?

[paco]

You have to if you cannot self-certify with an ICAO ATPL and some hours....

[r10bbr]

just was told by a fellow student , he had 3 friends who bashed the q bank 3 months before there exams and all passed 75% and over, ps are new 1500 questions added per month per subject as i was also told or its less

[superflanker]

Perhaps 1500 a year...between all subjects.

[Dude1]

Has anybody tried ATPL online ? For the exams in the U.K. What subjects are currently using the new format ?

[ersa]

Yes , its a cheap version of bristol ground school

[SierraVictor]

hello guys,

It's a bit out of topic question but maybe you can give me an idea.
I have 3 exams in March(Instrumentation, Radio Nav and Performance) and I think I'm running a bit late.
I have going through the whole RNAV and have of performance but I haven't start Instrumentation yet. Do you guys think that it's enough time 40 days to prepare everything properly? So far I have passed other 6 subjects with an average of 90% so I would like to keep the marks up.

[Officer Kite]

Are you sure 3 subjects is worth opening a session for?

Regarding instrumentation, yes that is absolutely enough time - more than enough in fact. Radio navigation is also not a difficult subject either. In fact I think instrumentation and radio nav are similar in that they are just 'click and move' type questions, some very basic and easy principles need to be grasped and that's it, if you have difficulties remembering somethings then you can use the last resort of memorising a few questions by force ... nothing surprising in the exams for either of them either. They're different to say Gnav or performance where you have to actually understand what's going on in order to make the successful calculations and memorising questions won't help you.