Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Wannabes Forums > Professional Pilot Training (includes ground studies)
Reload this Page >

FAA Certifcates issued on basis of ICAO licence - STOPPED

Wikiposts
Search
Professional Pilot Training (includes ground studies) A forum for those on the steep path to that coveted professional licence. Whether studying for the written exams, training for the flight tests or building experience here's where you can hang out.

FAA Certifcates issued on basis of ICAO licence - STOPPED

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 25th Jul 2002, 00:17
  #21 (permalink)  
Paid up
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
As may have been pointed out earlier, this isn't the end of the world as they will recognise the training already in your log book, so if you have an ICAO PPL [with night rating in the case of a JAA PPL], it can be just the case of sitting the written exam and doing a flight test.

A pain in the butt none the less!
Gin Slinger is offline  
Old 25th Jul 2002, 07:27
  #22 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 1,040
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I got this response from the school/rental FTO I use in CA. Basically it seems if you have the quals already you are ok, if not you are stuffed!

Hi Julian,
The situation at this time is anyone with a comp FAA cert is OK to continue.
They are not issuing new ones for a while.
The next problem is we can not change a cert, ie add a rating IFR or multi.
So I am not sure what you have but if you need to add the IR we would have
to do the PPL and IR flight test.
If you already have these quals then you are good to keep using them.
This was implemented very quickly we do not know how long it is in effect,
nor does anyone at the FAA that I have talked to. I will keep you informed
of any changes that I come across.
Julian is offline  
Old 25th Jul 2002, 12:13
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sanford, FL, USA
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The word we have gotten from the FAA is that they are in the process of rewriting their procedures for issuance of converted US Private Pilot Certificates on the basis of a foreign licenses. Until that is completed, we are told the suspension will remain in effect. And no one seems to know at this point what those new procedures might entail, but we all expect there to be some sort of background check required.

Patrick Murphy
Director of Training
Comair Aviation Academy
Sanford, Florida
caaflyr is offline  
Old 27th Jul 2002, 04:29
  #24 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Here is the latest from AOPA,

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Background checks now required for some foreign pilot certificate applicants
July 26 — AOPA has learned that FAA field offices will receive on Monday new procedures requiring all foreign pilots to submit to background checks before the agency will issue a U.S. pilot certificate based on a pilot license issued by another country. This new procedure will remove an emergency suspension of pilot certificate issuance to foreign pilots put into place a little over a week ago because of national security concerns.

The policy will establish new procedures for FAR Part 61.75, issuance of an FAA pilot certificate based on a current foreign pilot certificate. Non-U.S. pilots will be required to submit an application directly to the FAA's office in Oklahoma City and, upon approval, will be directed to the appropriate FAA flight standards district office to receive the U.S. certificate. According to the FAA, the entire process could take up to 60 days.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What this will probably entail is that you get a letter of good character from your local police station and send it with the application. The reason I feel this will be the case is that this letter is what constitutes a background check for the Green card.

It is not too onerous a requirement but keep in mind that previous minor offences may be a problem, public disorder or drunk driving for instance may get you refused.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pitts S2B is offline  
Old 27th Jul 2002, 04:47
  #25 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Here is the latest from AOPA,

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Background checks now required for some foreign pilot certificate applicants
July 26 — AOPA has learned that FAA field offices will receive on Monday new procedures requiring all foreign pilots to submit to background checks before the agency will issue a U.S. pilot certificate based on a pilot license issued by another country. This new procedure will remove an emergency suspension of pilot certificate issuance to foreign pilots put into place a little over a week ago because of national security concerns.

The policy will establish new procedures for FAR Part 61.75, issuance of an FAA pilot certificate based on a current foreign pilot certificate. Non-U.S. pilots will be required to submit an application directly to the FAA's office in Oklahoma City and, upon approval, will be directed to the appropriate FAA flight standards district office to receive the U.S. certificate. According to the FAA, the entire process could take up to 60 days.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What this will probably entail is that you get a letter of good character from your local police station and send it with the application. The reason I feel this will be the case is that this letter is what constitutes a background check for the Green card.

It is not too onerous a requirement but keep in mind that previous minor offences may be a problem, public disorder or drunk driving for instance may get you refused.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pitts S2B is offline  
Old 27th Jul 2002, 17:53
  #26 (permalink)  
advancing_blade
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
It's a big document. But having scan read it, it seems to say that the FAA Airmans certificates will be granted after a mor extensive security search and validation of the host licence. So unless i'm missing something (couldn't be that ) all is not lost.
 
Old 28th Jul 2002, 09:11
  #27 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The question is wether they will still allow you to progress and add ratings on the back of a validated PPL.

Wireless
Wireless is offline  
Old 28th Jul 2002, 22:39
  #28 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: leeds
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Lightbulb

For security purposes, this seems like a load of.......
No-one who wants to use equipment illegally bothers with technicalities like licences.
In the USA, you don't need a licence to:
-Buy an aircraft
-Hire a boat
-Buy ammunition
notice is offline  
Old 29th Jul 2002, 18:15
  #29 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Madrid, España
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Adding Ratings?

I have an FAA PPL issued on the basis of my UK CAA PPL (which has Night and Multi Engine Ratings) I have also completed my FAA IR. Does this mean that I will not be able to complete my FAA CPL without doing the PPL, Multi and IR Flight tests again so that I have a standalone FAA PPL and not a converted one prior to doing the CPL flight tests?

If so means it will cost lots more cash than I have budgeted for.
GPS Approach is offline  
Old 29th Jul 2002, 19:36
  #30 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sanford, FL, USA
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
US PPL Based on Foreign License

The current interpretation is that you can not add any more ratings to the converted license nor can you use it to get the US Commercial without first taking the US Knowledge and Practical Tests. We still anxiously await the new procedures from the FAA.
Patrick Murphy
Director of Training
Comair Aviation Academy Sanford, Florida
caaflyr is offline  
Old 30th Jul 2002, 00:07
  #31 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Bridge of Allan, Stirling, UK
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re-post from another thread:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...3&pagenumber=2


This is the latest info from the FAA website http://registry.faa.gov/airmen.asp
specifically: http://registry.faa.gov/airmen.asp#Verify

"Verification of Authenticity of Foreign License, Rating, and Medical Certification

Effective July 23, 2002, persons applying for a certificate issued on the basis of a foreign license under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 61, Section 61.75, using a pilot certificate issued under 61.75 to apply for a commercial pilot certificate under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 61, Section 61.123 (h) or applying for an airline transport pilot certificate issued under the provisions of 14 CFR, Part 61. Section 61.153 (d) (3) must have the validity and currency of the foreign license and medical certificate or endorsement verified by the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) that issued those certificates, before making application for an FAA certificate.

You may complete the Verification of Authenticity of Foreign License, Rating, and Medical Certification form (http://registry.faa.gov/docs/verify61-75.pdf) and FAX or mail it to the Airmen Certification Branch, AFS-760. When verification is received from the CAA, you will receive written notification that a copy has been forwarded to the Flight Standards District Office (FSDO) you designated in your request. A listing of FSDO (http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/fsdo/index.cfm) locations and telephone numbers is available from our customer services menu.

The verification is valid for 60 days. You may make application for a 61.75 certificate issued on the basis of your foreign license or an airline transport pilot certificate at the designated FSDO during that 60 day period. If you prefer to write a letter, it must contain all of the information shown on the form.

Mailing Address: FAA
Airmen Certification Branch, AFS-760
PO Box 25082
Oklahoma City, OK 73125-0082
FAX number: (405) 954-4105"

Seems like it's up to your home country CAA now...
Left Wing Down is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.