Is anyone recruiting?
Joined: Dec 2000
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From: London UK
I think www's first post on the state of play is about right. Don't forget several big airlines like bmi and ba have cadets waiting, either to start with the airline, or start previously postponed courses.
The only thing I would perhaps disagree with www on is that I think it would actually be a GOOD time to start a '509' course, as by the time you've finished it will be in 18 months time, when I think things will be different. If you wait for the boom before training, by the time you finish you have probably missed it! Also, flying schools are quiet, and you will get plenty of attention as a self sponsored student with no nasty sponsored cadets around nicking all the planes because uncle Rod wants his students out on time!!
I hope things will have picked up by spring 2003, and certainly by 2004. BALPA are predicting a big pilot shortage by 2005-6 (although take this with a pinch of salt - something always seems to come along and spoil it!)
War in the gulf is obviously worrying, and would certainly not help, but I certainly hope it wouldn't be on the scale we saw last time. Confidence in flying since Sept. 11th reapperared sooner than thought, although the effects are still be felt by the lower yields.
The only thing I would perhaps disagree with www on is that I think it would actually be a GOOD time to start a '509' course, as by the time you've finished it will be in 18 months time, when I think things will be different. If you wait for the boom before training, by the time you finish you have probably missed it! Also, flying schools are quiet, and you will get plenty of attention as a self sponsored student with no nasty sponsored cadets around nicking all the planes because uncle Rod wants his students out on time!!
I hope things will have picked up by spring 2003, and certainly by 2004. BALPA are predicting a big pilot shortage by 2005-6 (although take this with a pinch of salt - something always seems to come along and spoil it!)
War in the gulf is obviously worrying, and would certainly not help, but I certainly hope it wouldn't be on the scale we saw last time. Confidence in flying since Sept. 11th reapperared sooner than thought, although the effects are still be felt by the lower yields.
Joined: Jun 2001
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From: Ballymun
Yes, have to agree with WWW on this one.
If I were thinking about embarking on an expensive ATPL I'd at least wait to see what Dubya has planned for Saddam. I reckon it will be over very quickly, time costs money!! But will again be a prime opportunity for Airline management to try and further shaft their staff.
According to my sources at the sharp end, once the US has its posh bomb stocks piled up to Texan proportions, Dubya's going in while he still has the National backing to finish the job his Dad wasn't allowed to finish. In the meantime I'm sure its a case of all leave cancelled in Dec, and get them aircraft D checked!!!
This is a rumour network after all!
If I were thinking about embarking on an expensive ATPL I'd at least wait to see what Dubya has planned for Saddam. I reckon it will be over very quickly, time costs money!! But will again be a prime opportunity for Airline management to try and further shaft their staff.
According to my sources at the sharp end, once the US has its posh bomb stocks piled up to Texan proportions, Dubya's going in while he still has the National backing to finish the job his Dad wasn't allowed to finish. In the meantime I'm sure its a case of all leave cancelled in Dec, and get them aircraft D checked!!!
This is a rumour network after all!
Joined: Jun 2001
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From: UK
I haven't got the complete set of qualifications as yet, so have no first hand knowledge. All of my friends (with one exception) who do have the full set are getting please wait/reapply or insufficient experiance type rejection letters, or no answer at all from the airlines.
Two have jobs instructing, two have jobs with jump schools, and one hasn't flown for six months.
I think it's fairly true to say that the only people who won't get jobs, are those that give up trying, but of course the question is how long can you afford to wait.
Talking to pilots on both sides of the Atlantic it really does seem that there is substance to the hopes and rumours about an upturn in late 2002, and mid 2003. Lets hope so....
In the meantime, just in case Trg Capts F/Os recruiters do read this forum...my name is...my name is....please please please...here's my CV...I'll even wash the airplane (well maybe not all of it).
Cheers ...
Two have jobs instructing, two have jobs with jump schools, and one hasn't flown for six months.
I think it's fairly true to say that the only people who won't get jobs, are those that give up trying, but of course the question is how long can you afford to wait.
Talking to pilots on both sides of the Atlantic it really does seem that there is substance to the hopes and rumours about an upturn in late 2002, and mid 2003. Lets hope so....
In the meantime, just in case Trg Capts F/Os recruiters do read this forum...my name is...my name is....please please please...here's my CV...I'll even wash the airplane (well maybe not all of it).
Cheers ...
Joined: Dec 2000
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From: Mid Ulster
Are we there now!!! have we turned the page without PPG?!!
Any action against S.H. will be short and very swift and after a month of things starting , and it will, it will be all over.
Anyone offering a book on dates?
Methinks mid September.
Any action against S.H. will be short and very swift and after a month of things starting , and it will, it will be all over.
Anyone offering a book on dates?
Methinks mid September.
