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A shame, but hardly surprising I think?
I sincerely hope that all those affected are given first pickings as and when training resumes again. I am sure that Brits will do this, cos they are a quality outfit.
Sorry again to those affected.
I sincerely hope that all those affected are given first pickings as and when training resumes again. I am sure that Brits will do this, cos they are a quality outfit.
Sorry again to those affected.
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I think this is a set back for these guys rather than really bad news, Brit have a huge amount of retirements over the next few years and will need crews.
If they do what they've done in the past, the people will be put in a holding pool and given courses at some point in the future.
Tailscrape is right, they are a quality outfit and are worth hanging on for.
Not sure if this has helped any, best of luck to all of you.
If they do what they've done in the past, the people will be put in a holding pool and given courses at some point in the future.
Tailscrape is right, they are a quality outfit and are worth hanging on for.
Not sure if this has helped any, best of luck to all of you.
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History repeats itself. Once upon a time, in the last really serious bit of trouble, some twenty five years ago, if my failing memory serves me right, a B.E.A. Trident was doing circuits at Prestwick. This was a batch of ex Hamble cadets being checked out. The call came from London: "Scrub!" The training captain pleaded "Look, I've got this bloke in the seat who needs one more circuit to get checked out. Please give me one more circuit and at least the poor guy's got the type on his licence!" You can guess the response.
No, I wasn't that unfortunate young man. I don't know if he ever kept the faith and eventually made it, but hundreds of others did. Their careers spiralled off into all sorts of directions: Air Anglia, Dan-Air, Britannia, Monarch, Air Europe, Orion, Cathay, Caledonian and finally, incredibly, British Airways.
Us old "grey beards" have seen it all before. Some of us more than once. This time around, providing some madman doesn't blow up the planet, I'm still optimistic, as you have to be in this lark anyway.
Good luck!
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No, I wasn't that unfortunate young man. I don't know if he ever kept the faith and eventually made it, but hundreds of others did. Their careers spiralled off into all sorts of directions: Air Anglia, Dan-Air, Britannia, Monarch, Air Europe, Orion, Cathay, Caledonian and finally, incredibly, British Airways.
Us old "grey beards" have seen it all before. Some of us more than once. This time around, providing some madman doesn't blow up the planet, I'm still optimistic, as you have to be in this lark anyway.
Good luck!
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Lost my job yesterday with Britannia. Extremely upset, but I thought it would be coming. If they do decide to recruit,I'll be given a ring. Until then I'll have to bide my time and keep current. Any other people out there in the same situation?
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Tigro and Co.
Guys and girls, As a personal comment, I'm in Brit and involved with recruitment, I just found out about the recent decisions and felt for you in a big way. Banging on the doors is not nice and what has happened is doubly cruel. To echo one of the above comments, if you can, Brit is worth hanging on for. The demographics mean that jobs will be there, lets all hope the effects of recent events are as short lived as they can be.
regards
Chinchaser.
Guys and girls, As a personal comment, I'm in Brit and involved with recruitment, I just found out about the recent decisions and felt for you in a big way. Banging on the doors is not nice and what has happened is doubly cruel. To echo one of the above comments, if you can, Brit is worth hanging on for. The demographics mean that jobs will be there, lets all hope the effects of recent events are as short lived as they can be.
regards
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Hey guys, I'm in the same boat.....was supposed to be on your type course, Oct 01 at GECAT / LHR. I sincerely hope that we will all meet in the not too distant future, and make a success of everything which is going on. The hold pool is a good thing, lets just pray that this is over sooner rather than later.
Cheers,
starship
Cheers,
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I was meant to start on Nov 5th. Lets make sure this posting keeps going, it's definately worth keeping in touch with people in the same boat. Lets hope that this will be a shortlived as it can be, and we'll all be training with Britannia soon.
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I was on the october course as well 
A real shame since I was offered a start date last march and because of my boss intervention who never allowed me to go at that time, here I am today, without a job.
Since the like us seem to have gathered on that thread, how about getting in touch and sharing info as they come ?
Hope we will see better days sooner raher than later.
A real shame since I was offered a start date last march and because of my boss intervention who never allowed me to go at that time, here I am today, without a job.
Since the like us seem to have gathered on that thread, how about getting in touch and sharing info as they come ?
Hope we will see better days sooner raher than later.
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Hi again guys, Yeah, we need to keep in touch to at least get as much information amongst us as possible.
Keep the thread going, by whatever means.
May be able to shed some more light on things from sources inside soon, and will post it here as and when things are known.
Best wishes, Hope to see you all very soon.
Cheers,
starship
Keep the thread going, by whatever means.
May be able to shed some more light on things from sources inside soon, and will post it here as and when things are known.
Best wishes, Hope to see you all very soon.
Cheers,
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like everyone else here i was totally gutted to hear the news. I was on th 05th Nov course.
However guys we're all professionals and by the sounds of it very positive about the situation. Lets stick together and hope that we can get back on a course in the New Year.
In the mean time i'll be spending my 1 months salary renewing my IR and Medical.
PS. My wife just lost her job at Virgin after 6 years service. and my company is just about to close down so i'll be working at Tesco's over Christmas
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keep your chin up
However guys we're all professionals and by the sounds of it very positive about the situation. Lets stick together and hope that we can get back on a course in the New Year.
In the mean time i'll be spending my 1 months salary renewing my IR and Medical.
PS. My wife just lost her job at Virgin after 6 years service. and my company is just about to close down so i'll be working at Tesco's over Christmas
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keep your chin up
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Hi guys. I rang the girls at HR the second I got the letter to clarify a few things. I was told that 'yes' we would be contacted should they start recruiting again but the bottom line was they cannot possible know when that time will be. The company wants to look after its pilots on the line firstly. I was told to keep current and that there may possibly be another small interview and sim ride when or if we get a call.
In the meantime keep in contact. Oh, i have interview for a citation job so wish me luck. God knows I need it!!
Also i have released my email address so we may be able to get on first name basis.
MAX
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In the meantime keep in contact. Oh, i have interview for a citation job so wish me luck. God knows I need it!!
Also i have released my email address so we may be able to get on first name basis.
MAX
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Im so sorry to here of all those who sucessfully made it to Britannia have had their course postponed.
I hope that its not too long before you start. In the meantime, I wish you all the best of luck.
Regards,
Homer
I hope that its not too long before you start. In the meantime, I wish you all the best of luck.
Regards,
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Hi again everyone..
Don't know what everyone has been told, however this is the state of play as far as I can see it.
Courses which had been filled, ie October and November are to be kept in a holding pool for the forseeable future, pending the outcome of the present situation.
The company do not have any idea at present what the timescale is to the re- establishment of training, however should the situation change at all, then we will be contacted.
Should training be re-established within a reasonable timescale then a returning interview and possibly a sim check again is what may be in order, this however can not be confirmed yet.
The best advice, as stated by BAL is to keep in touch with HR and to gather information amongst us all as and when it comes to fruition.
The only good thing is that BAL is still short of crews, and that can only mean that recruitment would start again at the earliest convenience once a clearer picture of the current situation is gained. The crews that are on the line are being taken care of as far as I can see, which can only spell good things once we finally get into that RHS.
Retirements are here too.
I feel that the present situation, as said before will be a temporary setback and that courses will be offered in the future.
If we all look at it positively...at least we may have that chance. Those guys who have not got into a holding pool so far may have
longer to wait. I hope that everyone finds success in these difficult times, and that we will all be on our type course in the not too distant future.
MAX, if you did go for the Citation job, all the best to you...if it did not work out for you...hope we all see you with Brit soon.
Keep in touch,
cheers,
starship
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Don't know what everyone has been told, however this is the state of play as far as I can see it.
Courses which had been filled, ie October and November are to be kept in a holding pool for the forseeable future, pending the outcome of the present situation.
The company do not have any idea at present what the timescale is to the re- establishment of training, however should the situation change at all, then we will be contacted.
Should training be re-established within a reasonable timescale then a returning interview and possibly a sim check again is what may be in order, this however can not be confirmed yet.
The best advice, as stated by BAL is to keep in touch with HR and to gather information amongst us all as and when it comes to fruition.
The only good thing is that BAL is still short of crews, and that can only mean that recruitment would start again at the earliest convenience once a clearer picture of the current situation is gained. The crews that are on the line are being taken care of as far as I can see, which can only spell good things once we finally get into that RHS.
Retirements are here too.
I feel that the present situation, as said before will be a temporary setback and that courses will be offered in the future.
If we all look at it positively...at least we may have that chance. Those guys who have not got into a holding pool so far may have
longer to wait. I hope that everyone finds success in these difficult times, and that we will all be on our type course in the not too distant future.
MAX, if you did go for the Citation job, all the best to you...if it did not work out for you...hope we all see you with Brit soon.
Keep in touch,
cheers,
starship
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Commiserations to all of you who have had your courses put on hold.
I was I this position a couple of years ago. It took a year before I got the call back, but it did come! We had to go through the selection procedure all over again, but the same people seemed to come through and were selected.
Having done it all again a second time, there was another delay of a few months, but the call up eventually came! We were told there may be another short interview but in fact this didn't happen.
I don't think anyone can predict what might happen in the coming months, but I will be having some contact with the training department in the next few days, so I'll try and find out what the current situation is.
It may be a couple of weeks before I reply as I'm away from home for a while, but I'll find a computer somewhere if there is any news.
Fingers crossed for you all.
I was I this position a couple of years ago. It took a year before I got the call back, but it did come! We had to go through the selection procedure all over again, but the same people seemed to come through and were selected.
Having done it all again a second time, there was another delay of a few months, but the call up eventually came! We were told there may be another short interview but in fact this didn't happen.
I don't think anyone can predict what might happen in the coming months, but I will be having some contact with the training department in the next few days, so I'll try and find out what the current situation is.
It may be a couple of weeks before I reply as I'm away from home for a while, but I'll find a computer somewhere if there is any news.
Fingers crossed for you all.
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Hola again and back to the top,
So what is everyone doing? Do we sit on our backsides and pray that the phone will ring? Maybe it will never ring. I for one wont be sitting and waiting. Im not prepared to drop prospective employers as fast as...Britannia dropped me. I want nothing more than this to blow over quickly but the reality is the phone call may never come. Im sure some of us have been in this situation before?
I read an article in the Financial Mail with the only Brit on the board of Pressaug. He said no major layoff decisions until at least 6 weeks when they have a clearer picture of it all. That being said, just how are charter companies fairing? Havent heard much from the mainstream media but I haven't really dug too far. Anybody know? As this will reflect whether we get a call in the future or not.
MAX
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So what is everyone doing? Do we sit on our backsides and pray that the phone will ring? Maybe it will never ring. I for one wont be sitting and waiting. Im not prepared to drop prospective employers as fast as...Britannia dropped me. I want nothing more than this to blow over quickly but the reality is the phone call may never come. Im sure some of us have been in this situation before?
I read an article in the Financial Mail with the only Brit on the board of Pressaug. He said no major layoff decisions until at least 6 weeks when they have a clearer picture of it all. That being said, just how are charter companies fairing? Havent heard much from the mainstream media but I haven't really dug too far. Anybody know? As this will reflect whether we get a call in the future or not.
MAX
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Guys and girls,
For what its worth the internal picture in Brit is still cloudy as far as those of us on the line are concerned. We had intended to recruit 40-50 pilots this winter, that,as you all know, is now on hold. The good point is that you have completed the selection process, therefore brit will call you. Currently there is talk of being 3 hulls down next summer but this is unconfirmed. Allowing for those retiring and leaving for other reasons means that currently it would appear that the pilot force is stable, ie no redundancies, but as with everything recently things change fast. There are redundancies planned in the support staff roles but not flight crew. Again no comfort, but those who did get through the selection process are few in number compared to applicants, plus those deemed suitable by the team are getting fewer so stick with it in the meantime. Keep in touch with HR it will happen just not as soon as we all hoped.
Regards
Chinchaser.
For what its worth the internal picture in Brit is still cloudy as far as those of us on the line are concerned. We had intended to recruit 40-50 pilots this winter, that,as you all know, is now on hold. The good point is that you have completed the selection process, therefore brit will call you. Currently there is talk of being 3 hulls down next summer but this is unconfirmed. Allowing for those retiring and leaving for other reasons means that currently it would appear that the pilot force is stable, ie no redundancies, but as with everything recently things change fast. There are redundancies planned in the support staff roles but not flight crew. Again no comfort, but those who did get through the selection process are few in number compared to applicants, plus those deemed suitable by the team are getting fewer so stick with it in the meantime. Keep in touch with HR it will happen just not as soon as we all hoped.
Regards
Chinchaser.