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Having spoken to those 'in the know', the situation is pretty much as chinchaser has already said. The figure of 40-50 recruits was based on retirements and also a number of people leaving for other airlines ie British Airways and Virgin. Obviously that will not now happen so even if holiday bookings pick up, I can't see all the courses being reinstated.
All options are being considered, so don't give up hope. There has been another thread mentioning the posibility of aircraft going to Australia for Quantas. It is only a rumour mind you, but it does show you that things can sometimes unexpectedly improve!
The peak booking period is after Christmas, so fingers crossed that nothing really does stand in the way of the British and their annual holiday.
All options are being considered, so don't give up hope. There has been another thread mentioning the posibility of aircraft going to Australia for Quantas. It is only a rumour mind you, but it does show you that things can sometimes unexpectedly improve!
The peak booking period is after Christmas, so fingers crossed that nothing really does stand in the way of the British and their annual holiday.
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Some comments from recent chats at FL390 suggest that there will be no pilot out of work from Britannia. Planned command courses for the winter will be going ahead and recruitment may commence early in 2002.
A possible twist to those of you on the Britannia hold file could be the ever increasing number of experienced jet pilots now looking for a new employer. It may be possible that Britannia will look at recruiting those experienced 737/757/767 pilots ahead of those originally told they were on the hold file. So, whilst this is not necessarily the fact, by all means keep all your options open and keep in close and constant contact with Britannia HR.
Good luck, Britannia appears to have weathered the storm reasonably well for now - who knows what tomorrow brings.
Stay tuned.
A possible twist to those of you on the Britannia hold file could be the ever increasing number of experienced jet pilots now looking for a new employer. It may be possible that Britannia will look at recruiting those experienced 737/757/767 pilots ahead of those originally told they were on the hold file. So, whilst this is not necessarily the fact, by all means keep all your options open and keep in close and constant contact with Britannia HR.
Good luck, Britannia appears to have weathered the storm reasonably well for now - who knows what tomorrow brings.
Stay tuned.
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Hi all it's Tigro back again but under a different username. Max, did you get the job flying the learjet?
I myself have heard some rumours from friends who work for Britannia. Apparently the command courses which were meant to happen at the end of this year, have been delayed until after the Spring. Therefore, between now and then, S & F/Officers will have to be recruited to replace them. I think Britannia will look at type rated pilots first but they still have to go through exactly the same selection process.
I would also like to say thank you for the postings from people currently working for Britannia - they have been extremely helpful in these awful times! I just hope the wait is not that long, but who can tell?tigro [img]null[/img]
I myself have heard some rumours from friends who work for Britannia. Apparently the command courses which were meant to happen at the end of this year, have been delayed until after the Spring. Therefore, between now and then, S & F/Officers will have to be recruited to replace them. I think Britannia will look at type rated pilots first but they still have to go through exactly the same selection process.
I would also like to say thank you for the postings from people currently working for Britannia - they have been extremely helpful in these awful times! I just hope the wait is not that long, but who can tell?tigro [img]null[/img]
Good thread this. Decent gen.
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Has anyone applied to Britannia after the WTC disaster and been interviewed?
I requested an application form for the Second Officer job after the disaster since I match their basic criteria (I've only recently got my IR). I received a form, promptly returned it and got a PFO letter back.
I would like to think that this is because they have frozen recruitment, however this is probably wishful thinking of me and they just don't like me!
I can't see anything wrong with my application unless they are operating a higher TT or a 509-only requirement internally and not telling potential applicants about it? The form didn't have any of those difficult 'why do you want to join xxx airline'-type questions - they just wanted personal details and I've got a fairly sound background (good A levels, an engineering masters degree and solid work experience in a prior career both for a multinational and my own business), so I was a little surprised not to get a shot at an interview. I'm not one of those arrogant 'the world owes me a job' types, I just thought I stood a good chance of at least getting an interview with BY because of their Second Officer scheme. Maybe they didn't like my ugly mug 
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Anyone else got any info on this? Good luck to those of you in the pool - I'll be trying again once I've increased my hours tally a little.
cheers!
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I requested an application form for the Second Officer job after the disaster since I match their basic criteria (I've only recently got my IR). I received a form, promptly returned it and got a PFO letter back.
I would like to think that this is because they have frozen recruitment, however this is probably wishful thinking of me and they just don't like me!
I can't see anything wrong with my application unless they are operating a higher TT or a 509-only requirement internally and not telling potential applicants about it? The form didn't have any of those difficult 'why do you want to join xxx airline'-type questions - they just wanted personal details and I've got a fairly sound background (good A levels, an engineering masters degree and solid work experience in a prior career both for a multinational and my own business), so I was a little surprised not to get a shot at an interview. I'm not one of those arrogant 'the world owes me a job' types, I just thought I stood a good chance of at least getting an interview with BY because of their Second Officer scheme. Maybe they didn't like my ugly mug .Anyone else got any info on this? Good luck to those of you in the pool - I'll be trying again once I've increased my hours tally a little.
cheers!
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A friend of mine has got a form and he phoned to find out the situation. He was told to hold on to the form until the New year and send it in then.
I would be interested to know whether of not they are interviewing type-rated pilots at the moment or whether they will use the 'so-called' hold pool.
I got the impression from my letter that all bets were off and there was no 'Hold pool'. It would be great if some-one could confirm this.
I would be interested to know whether of not they are interviewing type-rated pilots at the moment or whether they will use the 'so-called' hold pool.
I got the impression from my letter that all bets were off and there was no 'Hold pool'. It would be great if some-one could confirm this.
Got a phone call one thursday (Years ago)..."Wot you doing on Monday? How about getting a 75/767 rating?"
Things will change suddenly.
Keep phoning for news. Make yourself available at short notice, if poss. If BAL doesn't recruit in the not too distant future, then I'll eat my hat (and my roster)
Good luck.
Things will change suddenly.
Keep phoning for news. Make yourself available at short notice, if poss. If BAL doesn't recruit in the not too distant future, then I'll eat my hat (and my roster)
Good luck.
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Ok gang, neck on the line time i suppose.
as part of the recruitment team, the situation as i understand it internally is fairly straight forward, BUT, this is as i understand it, it isn't official, plus things change fast and often the other way to that which we would expect.
with regards to those who have made it through the recruitment process, both stage one and two ( inc the sim). As a team we have spent time and effort to select you and you have passed the standards set, plus the face fits in the brit way. ( sorry to sound like official bumf!!) Its pointless to spend the time to recruit and then bin.Brit is going to crew, Chronologically challenged P1's can't change that, the numbers required will change dependant on what happens fleetwise etc but simply your first in the queue.
FOGHORN. I started in Brit with 400 hrs and a not too disimilar background. Keep current as best you can, doing some flying instruction pays dividends skills wise, just don't try to live on it!! When we look at people on stage one, bar the standard battry of Psycho, math and verbal reasoning, we look at your character. At stage two in the sim is wether you can fly to the standards required by the trainers. People who are on jets have stuffed this, guys like yourself have passed it, personally i used the force and it worked!! ( I think !) In short its worth applying.
Bluebaron. there is no recruitment going on at the moment, type rated or otherwise. the only cross over training that is going on is the guys and girls on the 73 being reroled to the 75.
Constant Speed (?) TIGRO> Sorry to rain on the parade, Whilst command courses are still on going, Hi age work force therefore more retiring captains, if we are going to be 3 hulls down ( not confirmed) then we are due to have excess crew next season for a period.
I would presume that as bookings are currently way down for next season high cost items, ie us, are going to be looked at very carefully. hopefully, as I don't want to spend all of next summer lookind at the moon, recruitment and training will restart, but later rather than sooner I would say is the current bet.
Keep the chins up and don't give up guys and girls. It is not nice being were you currently find yourselves, but when it happens you will look back and say it is all worth it. You have earn't the right to apply, in itself a challenge requiring dedication, The day will come just keep beliving it.
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Chinchaser.
as part of the recruitment team, the situation as i understand it internally is fairly straight forward, BUT, this is as i understand it, it isn't official, plus things change fast and often the other way to that which we would expect.
with regards to those who have made it through the recruitment process, both stage one and two ( inc the sim). As a team we have spent time and effort to select you and you have passed the standards set, plus the face fits in the brit way. ( sorry to sound like official bumf!!) Its pointless to spend the time to recruit and then bin.Brit is going to crew, Chronologically challenged P1's can't change that, the numbers required will change dependant on what happens fleetwise etc but simply your first in the queue.
FOGHORN. I started in Brit with 400 hrs and a not too disimilar background. Keep current as best you can, doing some flying instruction pays dividends skills wise, just don't try to live on it!! When we look at people on stage one, bar the standard battry of Psycho, math and verbal reasoning, we look at your character. At stage two in the sim is wether you can fly to the standards required by the trainers. People who are on jets have stuffed this, guys like yourself have passed it, personally i used the force and it worked!! ( I think !) In short its worth applying.
Bluebaron. there is no recruitment going on at the moment, type rated or otherwise. the only cross over training that is going on is the guys and girls on the 73 being reroled to the 75.
Constant Speed (?) TIGRO> Sorry to rain on the parade, Whilst command courses are still on going, Hi age work force therefore more retiring captains, if we are going to be 3 hulls down ( not confirmed) then we are due to have excess crew next season for a period.
I would presume that as bookings are currently way down for next season high cost items, ie us, are going to be looked at very carefully. hopefully, as I don't want to spend all of next summer lookind at the moon, recruitment and training will restart, but later rather than sooner I would say is the current bet.
Keep the chins up and don't give up guys and girls. It is not nice being were you currently find yourselves, but when it happens you will look back and say it is all worth it. You have earn't the right to apply, in itself a challenge requiring dedication, The day will come just keep beliving it.
regards
Chinchaser.
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chincaster, thanks for the info and i would like to second cruise Alt when he states
"I would also like to say thank you for the postings from people currently working for Britannia - they have been extremely helpful in these awful times! I just hope the wait is not that long, but who can tell?"
Thanks again.
"I would also like to say thank you for the postings from people currently working for Britannia - they have been extremely helpful in these awful times! I just hope the wait is not that long, but who can tell?"
Thanks again.
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Thanks chinchaser - I'll apply again early in the new year. I should be an FI(R) by then also. Whether I've managed to get an Instructor's job, well, that's a whole different story!
Every day, a different challenge, but onwards and upwards - giving in is a sure fire way of never landing that job!
cheers!
foggy.
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Every day, a different challenge, but onwards and upwards - giving in is a sure fire way of never landing that job!
cheers!
foggy.
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works for me this is all you're going to get though......
RECRUITMENT
PILOTS
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Thinking of becoming a pilot?
You can apply, subject to educational qualifications, for a commission in the Royal Air Force as a Pilot. On completion of your service you are an ideal candidate for a career in Civil Aviation
You can apply to an Airline advertising sponsorship. This is where an Airline pays for all the training connected to obtaining a Commercial Licence in return for a guaranteed length of service. Britannia Airways are not currently offering sponsorship training.
Learning to fly at a flying school - Build up your hours to 150 at which time you can take an Instructors course, which allows you to teach others. Continue with this until you attain 700 hours flying. Once you have 700 hours you can study for a Commercial Licence after which you become a good employment prospect for an Airline
Any further information towards obtaining airline qualification requirements i.e. ATPL can be obtained from:
Oxford Air Training School
Oxford Airport
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Tel. 01865 841234
Bae Flight Training (UK) Ltd
Prestwick International Airport
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Cabair
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SFT Aviation Ltd
Bournemouth International Airport
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All of the above takes time and a great deal of dedication. Good Luck !
RECRUITMENT
PILOTS
Click To Close This Window
Thinking of becoming a pilot?
You can apply, subject to educational qualifications, for a commission in the Royal Air Force as a Pilot. On completion of your service you are an ideal candidate for a career in Civil Aviation
You can apply to an Airline advertising sponsorship. This is where an Airline pays for all the training connected to obtaining a Commercial Licence in return for a guaranteed length of service. Britannia Airways are not currently offering sponsorship training.
Learning to fly at a flying school - Build up your hours to 150 at which time you can take an Instructors course, which allows you to teach others. Continue with this until you attain 700 hours flying. Once you have 700 hours you can study for a Commercial Licence after which you become a good employment prospect for an Airline
Any further information towards obtaining airline qualification requirements i.e. ATPL can be obtained from:
Oxford Air Training School
Oxford Airport
Kidlington
Oxfordshire
OX5 1RA
Tel. 01865 841234
Bae Flight Training (UK) Ltd
Prestwick International Airport
Ayreshire
KA9 2TW
Cabair
College of Air Training
Cranfield Airport
Bedford
MK43 0JR
SFT Aviation Ltd
Bournemouth International Airport
Christchurch
Dorset
BH23 6ED
All of the above takes time and a great deal of dedication. Good Luck !
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Chinchaser,
Thank you for the advice, any further news will be greatly appreciated. To keep current, I'm flying a Beagle Pup out of White Waltham and going to the US in Jan to fly a twin for 15 hrs. Also doing a sim at EGTK in the 737-400
If you are ever in London, pop into Transair and I'll buy you a beer.
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Thank you for the advice, any further news will be greatly appreciated. To keep current, I'm flying a Beagle Pup out of White Waltham and going to the US in Jan to fly a twin for 15 hrs. Also doing a sim at EGTK in the 737-400
If you are ever in London, pop into Transair and I'll buy you a beer.
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Foghorn
Congratulations on the IR, and I’m sorry that it’s such a rotten time for you to be looking for your first flying job.
However the large number of retirements that the major UK airlines are facing over the next few years (as their senior pilots reach compulsory retirement age) are a fact of life, and so, sooner or later, someone will be recruiting!
Hang in there, and good luck with the job hunting!
Best wishes,
Trident Sim
Congratulations on the IR, and I’m sorry that it’s such a rotten time for you to be looking for your first flying job.
However the large number of retirements that the major UK airlines are facing over the next few years (as their senior pilots reach compulsory retirement age) are a fact of life, and so, sooner or later, someone will be recruiting!
Hang in there, and good luck with the job hunting!
Best wishes,
Trident Sim