36 And my dream has died.
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Get over it mate, this job isn't what its made out to be. I'm an ATR Capt. my colleagues and I have had serious discussions in the cockpit whether this career is even worth it. Crap salaries, always away from home, company politics and constant erosion of T&Cs, I sometimes wish I became a dentist instead.
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From: crapoland
financially this profession is not possible.
10-20 years it was barely manageable as airlines were still paying for mcc , t/rating and line training, but now, you have to spend over 150k for no return on your investment, not even break even.More you work, more you lose money these days.It's patetic.
Many airlines have stoped to pay their crews since pilots pay them due to lack of regulations inside Europe.
only fools join this profession.Our JAA politicians are just $%&$ us!
10-20 years it was barely manageable as airlines were still paying for mcc , t/rating and line training, but now, you have to spend over 150k for no return on your investment, not even break even.More you work, more you lose money these days.It's patetic.
Many airlines have stoped to pay their crews since pilots pay them due to lack of regulations inside Europe.
only fools join this profession.Our JAA politicians are just $%&$ us!
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From: UK
The possibility to Pay for a Type Rating and Line Package is possible regardless of age. The only requirement being the ability to pay.
At least it affords the ability to exercise the Licence. It would be a shame to, having passed all those exams, never get a chance to operate a commercial aircraft.
This in mind; no ones dream needs to die. Anyone can pay to have a go.
At least it affords the ability to exercise the Licence. It would be a shame to, having passed all those exams, never get a chance to operate a commercial aircraft.
This in mind; no ones dream needs to die. Anyone can pay to have a go.
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From: UK
Let's be clear here Mr Berkshire.
The OP, and many like him, are neither unemployable or incompetent.
They are just not first pick for the likes of FR; I wonder why? Probably because they are not in Nappy's and living at M + D's!!
Sadly, the little chaps, armed with Dads wallet, have monopoly for any new pilot recruitment. It has stuff all to do with their ability to fly. But I can see why they appeal to FR, CTC Flexijob, Mc Fly et al.
P2F is an avenue well worth considering for the OP; certainly if the possibility of giving up all together is being viewed. If giving up does not appeal then a period of P2F is worth a cursory look.
The OP, and many like him, are neither unemployable or incompetent.
They are just not first pick for the likes of FR; I wonder why? Probably because they are not in Nappy's and living at M + D's!!
Sadly, the little chaps, armed with Dads wallet, have monopoly for any new pilot recruitment. It has stuff all to do with their ability to fly. But I can see why they appeal to FR, CTC Flexijob, Mc Fly et al.
P2F is an avenue well worth considering for the OP; certainly if the possibility of giving up all together is being viewed. If giving up does not appeal then a period of P2F is worth a cursory look.
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From: UK
BigNumber,
It wasn't a slight at the OP. I do not know his abilities. Your comment suggests that employability and competence have nothing to do with becoming a commercial pilot. Where PTF is concerned, this is correct. My comment was pointing out how much of a farce this is in a safety conscious industry.
As far as Ryanair and flexicrew go - what's the point in paying all that money to end up on those terms? Irrationality stemming from the 'dream'. I bet if the OP really looked into it he would realise his IT career is unlikely to be worse and would heed most peoples' advice and go for a PPL. Sounds like a case of the grass always being greener.
It wasn't a slight at the OP. I do not know his abilities. Your comment suggests that employability and competence have nothing to do with becoming a commercial pilot. Where PTF is concerned, this is correct. My comment was pointing out how much of a farce this is in a safety conscious industry.
As far as Ryanair and flexicrew go - what's the point in paying all that money to end up on those terms? Irrationality stemming from the 'dream'. I bet if the OP really looked into it he would realise his IT career is unlikely to be worse and would heed most peoples' advice and go for a PPL. Sounds like a case of the grass always being greener.
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From: Wales
just remember to budget for more than minimum hours, especially if doing things at weekends
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From: crapoland
after the magical 500h on jet, what most guys do? looking for a job, maintain your license, or go for 1000hours?
go back IT?, save, and buy a new block of hours?.
when are you going to be paid in this industry?at 36, are you not tired to play with these planes?
go back IT?, save, and buy a new block of hours?.
when are you going to be paid in this industry?at 36, are you not tired to play with these planes?
