Pilot Training College, Ireland (Merged 2011)
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Well basically does anyone have any information about it? or know anyone that has used it?
Even how to get sponsorship for such an expensive training course?
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Even how to get sponsorship for such an expensive training course?
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Two blogs I found via Google here and here.
The first one is from the old Pilot Training College facility in Vero Beach but the second seems to be live at the moment...
I suppose the student pilots/customers are the best to review...
Edit: The latter doesn't seem to work as it's a Google blog. It should be life-as-a-pilot.b l o g s p o t.com. Hope this helps.
The first one is from the old Pilot Training College facility in Vero Beach but the second seems to be live at the moment...
I suppose the student pilots/customers are the best to review...
Edit: The latter doesn't seem to work as it's a Google blog. It should be life-as-a-pilot.b l o g s p o t.com. Hope this helps.
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They don't do sponsorship,
Have a luck into flybe they send students there. Air Astana are also connected with them
The Vero Beach facility is no more. It's all done out of FIT Aviation in Melbourne Florida very nice facility.
They do two different courses. Integrated and modular. Integrated being the cheaper of the two but with less flight hours and an MCC included. I'm not sure on the modular as of now if the MCC is included.
Have a luck into flybe they send students there. Air Astana are also connected with them
The Vero Beach facility is no more. It's all done out of FIT Aviation in Melbourne Florida very nice facility.
They do two different courses. Integrated and modular. Integrated being the cheaper of the two but with less flight hours and an MCC included. I'm not sure on the modular as of now if the MCC is included.
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Sponsorship!! Do let me know if you ever manage to find anywhere that will offer sponsorship. I suspect there'll be many many people who would also like to know.
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I should ask, does anybody know how one could try and get sponsorship in the UK for this type of training?
Flybe offer a PART SPONSORED and MENTORED scheme, each differs in monetary value with the first being a much larger contribution to the course fee but the amount must be paid back in full over a period of time and the latter is a much smaller sum that, as far as I know, doesn't need to be paid back. The type rating doesn't have to be paid for but there will obviously be a bonding period.
In fact Flybe offer the scheme through this school and currently have a number of students training with them. I guess you would just have to wait until Flybe decide to make their next move...
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Have you had a look around this site.
Cityjet are offering one for cadets now. Using there school in Jerez. I'm not sure if they still accept applications but it only opened up a couple of weeks back so have a look.
Cityjet are offering one for cadets now. Using there school in Jerez. I'm not sure if they still accept applications but it only opened up a couple of weeks back so have a look.
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I know! It is hard to find! Well if it is impossible to get sponsorship, is there any chance of banks lending out the money? and if so, would this be a smart idea considering the current economic situation?
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The banks will only lend money if you have capital to borrow against.
And it is not a very good time to be getting into the industry
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/175/Flight...rch%202010.pdf
If you look at the number of CPL's being issued and the number of type ratings you can see that its less than half the total. Also take into account that some of those ratings will be second ratings. And alot of them will also be issued on licenses several years old.
So your going to be putting the whole of your familys assets on the line for less than 50% chance of a job. And there is also some debate that even if you do get said job it will actually pay enough to repay the loan and provide a decent quality of living.
And it is not a very good time to be getting into the industry
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/175/Flight...rch%202010.pdf
If you look at the number of CPL's being issued and the number of type ratings you can see that its less than half the total. Also take into account that some of those ratings will be second ratings. And alot of them will also be issued on licenses several years old.
So your going to be putting the whole of your familys assets on the line for less than 50% chance of a job. And there is also some debate that even if you do get said job it will actually pay enough to repay the loan and provide a decent quality of living.
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Yeah well by the look of these comments, it doesn't seem like a good choice going with PTC! Would anyone reccomend any other ways of going about this? I mean would starting small, working full time and doing a PPL on the side be a good start? Then gradually work my way up, paying as I go? I understand this could take some time, but if I really want to be a pilot, what is the best way?
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There is no sure fire successful method to be honest.
Any way you can do it so that when you eventually graduate you don't have huge debts to service is a huge plus point.
There are some that reckon that intergrated is the way forward due to the idea it some how gets you a foot in the door that others wouldn't get.
And there others like myself who reckon its not worth the additional cost and you don't get any benefit from the foot in the door.
Its very much down to personal situation, for some the intergrated way is the best way because of the enviroment for them is the only way to get through. Others it would be the oppersite.
Any way you can do it so that when you eventually graduate you don't have huge debts to service is a huge plus point.
There are some that reckon that intergrated is the way forward due to the idea it some how gets you a foot in the door that others wouldn't get.
And there others like myself who reckon its not worth the additional cost and you don't get any benefit from the foot in the door.
Its very much down to personal situation, for some the intergrated way is the best way because of the enviroment for them is the only way to get through. Others it would be the oppersite.
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They have changed over to the new COMPASS system - when I did it in Waterford it was the old system and I'd say everyone and their mother would pass it 
However, I have done the COMPASS also and it is mentally draining - Maths - freshen up on long division - rest is straight forward enough but the time frame with the long division threw me off - still passed that but failed the technical section - brush up on your knowledge of the piston engine!
If you're doing the self-sponsored course though you'd want to do very bad for them to say no - PTC model themselves on Oxford - even set up base in Cambridge recently!
They want your money so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
For personal satisfaction though, give it all you got!
Enjoy & Best of Luck,
Fireoff
However, I have done the COMPASS also and it is mentally draining - Maths - freshen up on long division - rest is straight forward enough but the time frame with the long division threw me off - still passed that but failed the technical section - brush up on your knowledge of the piston engine!
If you're doing the self-sponsored course though you'd want to do very bad for them to say no - PTC model themselves on Oxford - even set up base in Cambridge recently!
They want your money so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
For personal satisfaction though, give it all you got!
Enjoy & Best of Luck,
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Just did mine today.
Wasn't too bad.
I received a score of 5 on the Slalom, attaining a total of 24 in the COMPASS test.
They usually do written mathematics and aviation knowledge tests as well.
All I know is that my score was sufficiently high enough for myself, as well as 3 others from the 10-man cohort to be offered a place.
Their recruitment rate is about 30%.
Wasn't too bad.
I received a score of 5 on the Slalom, attaining a total of 24 in the COMPASS test.
They usually do written mathematics and aviation knowledge tests as well.
All I know is that my score was sufficiently high enough for myself, as well as 3 others from the 10-man cohort to be offered a place.
Their recruitment rate is about 30%.
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One valuable piece of advice : DON'T go to PTC, unless you want to be ripped off, get bad quality training and becoming a slave of bloody kazakhs students from Air Astana. I can explain more if you wish, but just don't go...
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Pilot Training College (PTC) in serious trouble??
If you are considering joining PTC then please don't go for the following reasons.
PTC is in financial trouble with their most current companies house accounts showing liabilities of €2.9 million. You can check this for yourself on www.cro.ie/search/CompanySearch.aspxk Their company number is 357712. It costs €3.50 for a companies printout.
In recent months the Chief Flight Instructor and Head of Training have left the company. Mike Edgeworth, the majority shareholder, has appointed himself CFI.
The training contract students are asked to sign have been found to be legally unfair. For example 'in the event of termination of training for whatever reason the balance of all outstanding fees for the WHOLE course shall become due and owing. This means that even if PTC are at fault then it is difficult to obtain any refund.
PTC has been adjudicated against by the Advertising Standards Authority dated 6/10/2010. They claimed to be the LEADING supplier of pilots to major airlines such as Qantas and Virgin which was found to be untrue as they only had one with Qantas and none with Virgin.
My advise and that of others who have experienced PTC is NOT to go there. If you do decide to go then make sure you get an independent assessment of their financial status and get your solicitor to read the contract before you decide to part with your hard earned cash or remortgage your house.
PTC is in financial trouble with their most current companies house accounts showing liabilities of €2.9 million. You can check this for yourself on www.cro.ie/search/CompanySearch.aspxk Their company number is 357712. It costs €3.50 for a companies printout.
In recent months the Chief Flight Instructor and Head of Training have left the company. Mike Edgeworth, the majority shareholder, has appointed himself CFI.
The training contract students are asked to sign have been found to be legally unfair. For example 'in the event of termination of training for whatever reason the balance of all outstanding fees for the WHOLE course shall become due and owing. This means that even if PTC are at fault then it is difficult to obtain any refund.
PTC has been adjudicated against by the Advertising Standards Authority dated 6/10/2010. They claimed to be the LEADING supplier of pilots to major airlines such as Qantas and Virgin which was found to be untrue as they only had one with Qantas and none with Virgin.
My advise and that of others who have experienced PTC is NOT to go there. If you do decide to go then make sure you get an independent assessment of their financial status and get your solicitor to read the contract before you decide to part with your hard earned cash or remortgage your house.
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ASA can't find you guilty only an adjudication can be made about a complaint.
ASA Adjudication on The Pilot Training College - Advertising Standards Authority
They were found against for that the ad breached CAP Code clauses 3.1 (Substantiation) and 7.1 (Truthfulness).
ASA Adjudication on The Pilot Training College - Advertising Standards Authority
They were found against for that the ad breached CAP Code clauses 3.1 (Substantiation) and 7.1 (Truthfulness).
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Pilot Training College
Im heading of to florida in january with the college(integrated course)..I have a friend who done it last year and is now flying with ryanair(he had no problem getting accepted).He said as long as you do what your told and give it 100% during the process of the training you will have no bother..Also i think the rumours i hear about the college are inaccurate.Could someone please inform me more about the college as of where i stand after i have finished my training ?? Thank you 