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A video promo of BAAtraining 
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYM22MEP/ a slightly more honest one
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYM22MEP/ a slightly more honest one
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A video promo of BAAtraining https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYM22MEP/ a slightly more honest one
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https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100067742255770 might be this you're referring to
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went to their booth in pilotexpo berlin 24-25.2.23. red haired marketing lady super agressive from the get go.
asked about vueling program. "WHeN Do YUo WaNT To stArt?! dO yOu waNT TO STarT noW?!!" no questions really answered. asked them the fact that vueling hasnt taken back any of their laid off pilots yet, nor have they opened open positions for pilots in their careers page nor do they have any orders for new ac etc. no comment on that. '"We HaVE program wiTH VueLiNG"
talked with their stooge student they brought. how many planes do you have. We fly 5 he said. Well your website says 11. No comment on that. Asked this to the marketing lady. Yes we have 11 planes 8 sep cessnas and 2 mep tecnams.
So then i asked why is their MEP in EAS barcelonas colours. No comment. Said that was confidential reason.
Then i asked why none of their LOT cadets or Avion cadets got hired or even called to the interview and to this the red haired womans face started to match her hair. She got very mad "YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAD COVID AND FOR 2 YEARS EVERYTHING WAS STOPPED BLAH BLAH BLAH" then i pointed out but LOT is hiring NTR people with minimum hours from flight school and Avion as well had a booth at pilot expo berlin trying to entice straight out of flight school people. She didnt want to talk to me after.
Another lie which she told was that BAA has an enormous amount of instructors from different airlines, but this is false. The instructors who are in the airlines work in the type rating dept not ab initio flight training.
I talked with FlyBy school as well, at their booth and they mentioned that a few of ex BAA flight instructors moved to FlyBy to teach instead as the treatement there was better. And BAA has been trying to lease their multi engine aircraft but FlyBy denied it - take this info as you wish i don't know why the FlyBy guy was talking about plane leasing, but maybe BAA doesn't have any of their own multi engine aircraft.
Anyways guys keep out of this school. It seems like they were very desperate and they were very aggressive from the beginning. Most of the stuff which came out of their mouths were lies and half truths.
unfortunately they are good with marketing and brought pretty ladies to their booth so many people were interested. unfortunately sex sells in aviation as well :/
asked about vueling program. "WHeN Do YUo WaNT To stArt?! dO yOu waNT TO STarT noW?!!" no questions really answered. asked them the fact that vueling hasnt taken back any of their laid off pilots yet, nor have they opened open positions for pilots in their careers page nor do they have any orders for new ac etc. no comment on that. '"We HaVE program wiTH VueLiNG"
talked with their stooge student they brought. how many planes do you have. We fly 5 he said. Well your website says 11. No comment on that. Asked this to the marketing lady. Yes we have 11 planes 8 sep cessnas and 2 mep tecnams.
So then i asked why is their MEP in EAS barcelonas colours. No comment. Said that was confidential reason.
Then i asked why none of their LOT cadets or Avion cadets got hired or even called to the interview and to this the red haired womans face started to match her hair. She got very mad "YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAD COVID AND FOR 2 YEARS EVERYTHING WAS STOPPED BLAH BLAH BLAH" then i pointed out but LOT is hiring NTR people with minimum hours from flight school and Avion as well had a booth at pilot expo berlin trying to entice straight out of flight school people. She didnt want to talk to me after.
Another lie which she told was that BAA has an enormous amount of instructors from different airlines, but this is false. The instructors who are in the airlines work in the type rating dept not ab initio flight training.
I talked with FlyBy school as well, at their booth and they mentioned that a few of ex BAA flight instructors moved to FlyBy to teach instead as the treatement there was better. And BAA has been trying to lease their multi engine aircraft but FlyBy denied it - take this info as you wish i don't know why the FlyBy guy was talking about plane leasing, but maybe BAA doesn't have any of their own multi engine aircraft.
Anyways guys keep out of this school. It seems like they were very desperate and they were very aggressive from the beginning. Most of the stuff which came out of their mouths were lies and half truths.
unfortunately they are good with marketing and brought pretty ladies to their booth so many people were interested. unfortunately sex sells in aviation as well :/
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I talked with FlyBy school as well, at their booth and they mentioned that a few of ex BAA flight instructors moved to FlyBy to teach instead as the treatement there was better. And BAA has been trying to lease their multi engine aircraft but FlyBy denied it - take this info as you wish i don't know why the FlyBy guy was talking about plane leasing, but maybe BAA doesn't have any of their own multi engine aircraft.
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It is our policy to never speak poorly of anyone… specially other flight schools. This post will follow those guidelines.
Yes, we hired 2 instructors that previously worked at BAA. One was a FlyBy graduated pilot that started working with us but went to work for them… and wanted to come back almost immediately but he stayed there for some years, if I am not mistaken.
The second instructor joined us un August and we are very happy with his performance.
There is a maintenance manager that also came from BAA to work with us but due to personal problems had to resign. I heard he may have gone back to BAA but I am not 100% sure.
Although we give preference to our students for TKI and FI positions, we also incorporate Instructors from other schools to support our growth. 4 instructors just started working with us recently
Several years ago, BAA contacted us for dry-lease of twin engines. We only offered to complete the ME training for them but we never agreed on the cost of the service so they went on to find a different solution
BAA has approached FlyBy in several occasions with different projects but we never found a mutually beneficial solution so have never worked with them
we don’t have any knowledge about the rest of the allegations presented here
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no one gives a single eff which instructors go where, the most dangerous part of this academy is it’s ability to draw in students through fake airline partnerships ie. the recent vueling program, because ultimately this is what people look for at the end of their training. a guaranteed job offer despite problems with fleet training equipment staff
GUYS BAA TRAINING HAS A HISTORY OF DELIVERING UNSUCCESSFUL CADET PROGRAMS, IT ALL STARTED WITH SMALL PLANET CADET PROGRAM (NO ONE GOT A JOB WITH SMALL PLANET) THEN IT WENT TO AVION EXPRESS CADET PROGRAM WHICH IS OWNED BY THE SAME PARENT COMPANY AS BAA (NO ONE AGAIN GOT A JOB) AND NOW THE LATEST VICTIMS HAVE BEEN LOT POLISH AIRLINE CADETS WHO ALSO DID NOT GET A JOB. I HOPE ANYONE WITH 3 BRAINCELLS EVEN CONSIDERING THE FAKE VUELING PROGRAM CAN SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING AND THIS PATTERN OF CADETS NOT GETTING A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAA TRAINING GOT THEIR MONEY CADETS DIDNT GET THE JOB!!!!!!!
GUYS BAA TRAINING HAS A HISTORY OF DELIVERING UNSUCCESSFUL CADET PROGRAMS, IT ALL STARTED WITH SMALL PLANET CADET PROGRAM (NO ONE GOT A JOB WITH SMALL PLANET) THEN IT WENT TO AVION EXPRESS CADET PROGRAM WHICH IS OWNED BY THE SAME PARENT COMPANY AS BAA (NO ONE AGAIN GOT A JOB) AND NOW THE LATEST VICTIMS HAVE BEEN LOT POLISH AIRLINE CADETS WHO ALSO DID NOT GET A JOB. I HOPE ANYONE WITH 3 BRAINCELLS EVEN CONSIDERING THE FAKE VUELING PROGRAM CAN SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING AND THIS PATTERN OF CADETS NOT GETTING A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAA TRAINING GOT THEIR MONEY CADETS DIDNT GET THE JOB!!!!!!!
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I was actually at the Berlin Pilots Expo and just for the hell of it, I hang around at the boot next to them and listened to this tall blonde lady trying to convince some poor young kids. Literally after 3-4 minutes when I realized I am about to burst out laughing, I simply left 😆😆
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BAA has been caught up in another controversy where one of their instructors has been transporting spare parts to Russia amid sanctions.
Do keep this in mind when choosing your FTO guys
unfortunately for us students and alumni, our reputation has been down to the ground due to the dodginess surrounding this mafia of an organization.
Do keep this in mind when choosing your FTO guys
unfortunately for us students and alumni, our reputation has been down to the ground due to the dodginess surrounding this mafia of an organization.
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BAA has been caught up in another controversy where one of their instructors has been transporting spare parts to Russia amid sanctions.
Do keep this in mind when choosing your FTO guys unfortunately for us students and alumni, our reputation has been down to the ground due to the dodginess surrounding this mafia of an organization.
Do keep this in mind when choosing your FTO guys
unfortunately for us students and alumni, our reputation has been down to the ground due to the dodginess surrounding this mafia of an organization.If after all the posts above, someone still fall down for one of those companies, well then he/she deserves to be ripped off.
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I wonder, how the private affairs of a part-time employee can be reflected on the whole company? Your point makes absolutely no sense.. Instructor had a side hustle and got caught doing something questionable, that is on him. The only reason why BAA was mentioned in all of this is that he sometimes works for them as an instructor.. It is crazy how you can point a narrative just one way 
On the other note, it feels like this forum is full of unsuccessful wannabe pilots, who thought they are entitled to something.. Crying about issues that were relevant a couple years ago.. Time goes by and things improve. Sad experience of underachievers is relevant but it definitely does not paint a complete picture and definitely does not represent the current situation. Anyway, training business is highly regulated, which leaves small margins to maneuver. It is up to students, to grind and learn everything to the best of abilities
Issues with cadet programs? Sure, but how come the training company gets blamed for unfulfilled promises form airlines? BAA does not guarantee you job, airlines give you that commitment. It is all laid out in the engagement letters.
Fake cadet program? really?
If it would be fake, don't you think that an airline would take legal action if that would be true?
The amount of gossip here is just on another level, especially from people who claimed that graduated recently. I wonder why they are not sharing the part where BAA proactively helps them book interviews with airlines
Sure, there are some minor issues, but nothing so dramatic that makes you say "reputation has been down to the ground" .
All in all, since it actually is a rumor network, I guess it is pretty obvious as to what type of people come here Cheers, and happy pilot's day guys!
On the other note, it feels like this forum is full of unsuccessful wannabe pilots, who thought they are entitled to something.. Crying about issues that were relevant a couple years ago.. Time goes by and things improve. Sad experience of underachievers is relevant but it definitely does not paint a complete picture and definitely does not represent the current situation. Anyway, training business is highly regulated, which leaves small margins to maneuver. It is up to students, to grind and learn everything to the best of abilities
Issues with cadet programs? Sure, but how come the training company gets blamed for unfulfilled promises form airlines? BAA does not guarantee you job, airlines give you that commitment. It is all laid out in the engagement letters.
Fake cadet program? really?
If it would be fake, don't you think that an airline would take legal action if that would be true? The amount of gossip here is just on another level, especially from people who claimed that graduated recently. I wonder why they are not sharing the part where BAA proactively helps them book interviews with airlines
Sure, there are some minor issues, but nothing so dramatic that makes you say "reputation has been down to the ground" .
All in all, since it actually is a rumor network, I guess it is pretty obvious as to what type of people come here
Cheers, and happy pilot's day guys!
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I wonder, how the private affairs of a part-time employee can be reflected on the whole company? Your point makes absolutely no sense.. Instructor had a side hustle and got caught doing something questionable, that is on him. The only reason why BAA was mentioned in all of this is that he sometimes works for them as an instructor.. It is crazy how you can point a narrative just one way
On the other note, it feels like this forum is full of unsuccessful wannabe pilots, who thought they are entitled to something.. Crying about issues that were relevant a couple years ago.. Time goes by and things improve. Sad experience of underachievers is relevant but it definitely does not paint a complete picture and definitely does not represent the current situation. Anyway, training business is highly regulated, which leaves small margins to maneuver. It is up to students, to grind and learn everything to the best of abilities
Issues with cadet programs? Sure, but how come the training company gets blamed for unfulfilled promises form airlines? BAA does not guarantee you job, airlines give you that commitment. It is all laid out in the engagement letters.
Fake cadet program? really? If it would be fake, don't you think that an airline would take legal action if that would be true?
The amount of gossip here is just on another level, especially from people who claimed that graduated recently. I wonder why they are not sharing the part where BAA proactively helps them book interviews with airlines
Sure, there are some minor issues, but nothing so dramatic that makes you say "reputation has been down to the ground" .
All in all, since it actually is a rumor network, I guess it is pretty obvious as to what type of people come here Cheers, and happy pilot's day guys!
On the other note, it feels like this forum is full of unsuccessful wannabe pilots, who thought they are entitled to something.. Crying about issues that were relevant a couple years ago.. Time goes by and things improve. Sad experience of underachievers is relevant but it definitely does not paint a complete picture and definitely does not represent the current situation. Anyway, training business is highly regulated, which leaves small margins to maneuver. It is up to students, to grind and learn everything to the best of abilities
Issues with cadet programs? Sure, but how come the training company gets blamed for unfulfilled promises form airlines? BAA does not guarantee you job, airlines give you that commitment. It is all laid out in the engagement letters.
Fake cadet program? really?
If it would be fake, don't you think that an airline would take legal action if that would be true?The amount of gossip here is just on another level, especially from people who claimed that graduated recently. I wonder why they are not sharing the part where BAA proactively helps them book interviews with airlines
Sure, there are some minor issues, but nothing so dramatic that makes you say "reputation has been down to the ground" .
All in all, since it actually is a rumor network, I guess it is pretty obvious as to what type of people come here
Cheers, and happy pilot's day guys! Can you elaborate please? Seems like you know more stuff about this circus of a flightschool than recent graduates. Tell us more please!
How did things improve? How is it the fault of the Cadets if BAA ghosts the cadets once theyre done with the training?
Maybe if you would have just focused more on the actual issues instead of luring around here blaming students, things actually would start to change.
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We have a very smooth brained comment here. It is commendable that you are going against BAA critics, I do respect the courage, as it takes some amount of cognitive dissonance and intellectual disability to come to your conclusions. And it is indeed brave of you to show so openly a lack of inductive reasoning to an audience who are already familiar with ways and nature of this training organization. However I regret to inform you that none of you arguments have actually any weight nor any hints of empiricism. They are just words backed by nothing: no names, no proof, no evidence. And not to mention most them are fallacious.
As I was never a BAA student I will not be able to debunk the majority of your claims but for the purpose of entertainment I'll play along to your argument.
Surely it is up to the organization to take the necessary steps to determine what kind of employees they are hiring. You mention that the training business is highly regulated therefore illicit activities of an individual employee definitely do expose a companies inadherence/non-compliance of those so called strict regulations. It further shows that BAA Training does not really care about the quality of training/safety of students, nor do they care about what kind of personas are dwelling within their company as this occurrence uncovers the fact that they have no interest in carrying out necessary checks on employees and hire whoever is willing to bite the bullet of **** pay and poor treatment. This is additionally seen in their management hierarchy, where the current head of training of ground school is no where nearly related to aviation, has no prior experience in aviation, no relevant expertise , but instead carries a masters in history and a bachelors in arts.... and this is not the first time BAA has managed to hire literally anyone into important positions. Their previous ab initio director of flight operations was an Uber worker in Australia, with no previous history nor any sort of expertise in aviation...after making as much money he could he left to become a COO of his family run kitchen supply store...again which has nothing to do with aviation.
Normal people see a pattern of low recruitment standards. People who lack pattern recognition scratch their heads and wonder why companies who hire anyone and everyone, are blamed when their employees are caught doing illicit activities.
As I was never a BAA student I will not be able to debunk the majority of your claims but for the purpose of entertainment I'll play along to your argument.
I wonder, how the private affairs of a part-time employee can be reflected on the whole company? Your point makes absolutely no sense.. Instructor had a side hustle and got caught doing something questionable, that is on him. The only reason why BAA was mentioned in all of this is that he sometimes works for them as an instructor.. It is crazy how you can point a narrative just one way
Normal people see a pattern of low recruitment standards. People who lack pattern recognition scratch their heads and wonder why companies who hire anyone and everyone, are blamed when their employees are caught doing illicit activities.
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Companies generally take legal action when there is something to lose ie. money, reputation etc. OR when there has been or there is a probability of a net loss , meaning more loss than gain overall.
What does an airline have to loose with a self sponsored integrated program, where the liability of all costs are granted to the trainee?
Airlines do not loose anything when flight schools one-sidedly associate with them, unless there is a dispute behind the scenes due to other reasons or airlines explicitly make one sided deals with certain flight school ie. CAE and EasyJet.
This is why many FTOs for example post pictures of their alumni flying for Ryanair on instagram with captions like "do you want to be a pilot like our student XXXX sign up for our course etc." and this might be very hard for a person who lacks a certain amount of cognitive capacity to understand ,but this is a type of dog whistling where an FTO is implying that they are somehow behind the fact that students are able to land a job with an airline X, even though there isn't an underlying connection between the FTO and the airline. And ofc no airline cares about this because it doesn't damage the airline in any way
Therefore no legal action needed.
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I wonder, how the private affairs of a part-time employee can be reflected on the whole company? Your point makes absolutely no sense.. Instructor had a side hustle and got caught doing something questionable, that is on him. The only reason why BAA was mentioned in all of this is that he sometimes works for them as an instructor.. It is crazy how you can point a narrative just one way
On the other note, it feels like this forum is full of unsuccessful wannabe pilots, who thought they are entitled to something.. Crying about issues that were relevant a couple years ago.. Time goes by and things improve. Sad experience of underachievers is relevant but it definitely does not paint a complete picture and definitely does not represent the current situation. Anyway, training business is highly regulated, which leaves small margins to maneuver. It is up to students, to grind and learn everything to the best of abilities
Issues with cadet programs? Sure, but how come the training company gets blamed for unfulfilled promises form airlines? BAA does not guarantee you job, airlines give you that commitment. It is all laid out in the engagement letters.
Fake cadet program? really? If it would be fake, don't you think that an airline would take legal action if that would be true?
The amount of gossip here is just on another level, especially from people who claimed that graduated recently. I wonder why they are not sharing the part where BAA proactively helps them book interviews with airlines
Sure, there are some minor issues, but nothing so dramatic that makes you say "reputation has been down to the ground" .
All in all, since it actually is a rumor network, I guess it is pretty obvious as to what type of people come here Cheers, and happy pilot's day guys!
On the other note, it feels like this forum is full of unsuccessful wannabe pilots, who thought they are entitled to something.. Crying about issues that were relevant a couple years ago.. Time goes by and things improve. Sad experience of underachievers is relevant but it definitely does not paint a complete picture and definitely does not represent the current situation. Anyway, training business is highly regulated, which leaves small margins to maneuver. It is up to students, to grind and learn everything to the best of abilities
Issues with cadet programs? Sure, but how come the training company gets blamed for unfulfilled promises form airlines? BAA does not guarantee you job, airlines give you that commitment. It is all laid out in the engagement letters.
Fake cadet program? really?
If it would be fake, don't you think that an airline would take legal action if that would be true?The amount of gossip here is just on another level, especially from people who claimed that graduated recently. I wonder why they are not sharing the part where BAA proactively helps them book interviews with airlines
Sure, there are some minor issues, but nothing so dramatic that makes you say "reputation has been down to the ground" .
All in all, since it actually is a rumor network, I guess it is pretty obvious as to what type of people come here
Cheers, and happy pilot's day guys!
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Lying on Instagram when both of their ME ac are broken AND on sale: https://www.planecheck.com/index.asp...id=55539&cor=y
https://www.planecheck.com/index.asp...id=55995&cor=y
More incompetent instructing and proof of damage on both MEP: https://www.mitma.gob.es/recursos_mf...nal_report.pdf
and even more https://www.mitma.gob.es/recursos_mf..._report_nm.pdf
As a recent graduate myself I call BS on the fact that BAA is proactively helping to book interviews with airlines, but even if assuming that is true, the airlines which BAA are associated with are pay to fly and also the worst employers in Europe. The likes of smartlynx, avion are ranked number 1 and 2 from the bottom respectively in terms of employee satisfaction according to European Cockpit Association . Even if what you say was true (it isnt) , it is like burning someone's mansion and then saying that oh look i'm am offering you a mudhut
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