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Old 17th Jan 2010, 04:18
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Operational procedures

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A few questions from the operational procedures syllabus. I don't know anything of the following questions, so if you do, feel free to tell me the rigth answers! (thank u).

1) The limits of the MNPS airspace within the NAT region are :
a- 27°N - 90°N
b- 30°N - 70°N
c- 27°N - 70°N
d- 30°N - 90°N

I'm virtually sure that the northern limit is 70°N, however regarding the southern limit i strongly hesitate between 27°N and 30°N, which are very close values actually. Would go for C.

2) When flying a planned flight track utilising the NAT track system, a SELCAL check is to be carried out :
a- before take-off
b- at, or prior to entry into the NAT Oceanic Control Area
c- at least 10 minutes before tthe initial contact with the Oceanic Control centre is required
d- as soon as possible after entering the Oceanic Control area

I'd say answer D.

3) With which fire extinguisher would you normally fight a wheel fire
a- CO²
b- foam
c-dry powder
d- water

I think it's dry powder, so answer C.

4) When fuel is jettisoned :
a- maximum landing weight cannot be greater than the take-off mass
b- with four engines operating a climb gradient of 3% must be achievable
c- maximum landing climb mass should be achievable within 15 minutes
d- the centre tank should be emptied to reduce weight to landing weight

Thank you very much.
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1) The limits of the MNPS airspace within the NAT region are :

c- 27°N - 90°N


2) When flying a planned flight track utilising the NAT track system, a SELCAL check is to be carried out :
b- at, or prior to entry into the NAT Oceanic Control Area

see jeppy chart ATHL 1/2; full of info. i use it alot.

3) With which fire extinguisher would you normally fight a wheel fire

c-dry powder

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fuel jettison

c- maximum landing climb mass should be achievable within 15 minutes
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I'm quite sure the NAT MNPS limits are in fact 27°N - 90°N or answer a.
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Thumbs up

the Limits are and still be 27N and 90N

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Many thanks for your help !
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you're always welcome|
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I've got some other intersting questions still regarding operational procedures :

5)When carrying out de-icing anti-incing as a one step procedure, the holdover time is deemed to have started from :
a- the start of the de-icing procedure
b- the end of the de-icing procedure
c- when all ice deposits have been removed from the airframe
d- when the icing conditions have stopped affecting the aeroplane

I'd say here either answer A or B.

6) a majority of bird strikes occur :
a- during take-off
b- during landing
c- below 500 ft
d- on the wings

would say C.
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From an ATPL manual I have:

MNPS ORGANISED TRACK SYSTEM

The MNPS area that is the volume of airspace between FL285 and FL420 extending between 27ºN and the North Pole, bounded in the east by the eastern boundaries of control areas Santa Maria OCA, Shanwick OCA and Reykjavik and in the west by the western boundary of Reykjavik CTA, the western boundaries of Gander OCA and New York OCA excluding the area west of 60ºW and south of 38º30'N.
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for 5 is a and for 6 is c
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Holdover time begins when the final application of anti-icing fluid commences, and expires when the anti-icing fluid loses its effectiveness. ......A
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Yep, just checked my ATPL books and they still say that the MNPS limits are 27N and the pole (or 90N). I believe this is also the answer given by the question bank I used when I did the ATPL's. Then again, I could be wrong.
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MNPS extends to the pole, however I believe the NAT system stops at 70 deg North.

Either way question bank is invaluable!

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Disregard that Just checked my books, the MNPS NAT system extends to the pole!
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Old 18th Jan 2010, 21:46
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definitly 27N to 90N

sorry kilovictor....
the NATS system from 27N to 90N....i'm confused with the separations before 70N and the separation in degree after 70N
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